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"Sryde Lyde Myde Vorworde Vorhorde Vorborde" [von Alvensleben]SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-46467210145541591032017-03-30T19:37:00.001-07:002017-03-30T19:37:31.193-07:00EXCERPTS FROM MY "A PATIENT'S EXPERIENCE OF HIS ANALYSIS"<h1 dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.7999999999999998; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt; text-align: justify;">
<span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-size: 26.6667px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="background-color: cyan;"> A Patient’s Experience of his Analyses
By Michael Roloff
This excursus seeks to explore, from an analysand’s perspective, the transactions between analyst and patient.
KEYWORDS: Patient-analyst interaction; dreams as communications;
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“La Vida est un sueno,” Calderon
“The gradual passage of time [Lange Weile] is the Dream Bird that Hatches the Egg of Experience.” Walter Benjamin, from the essay on Leskov, On the Writing of Fairy Tales. [1]
What brought me into analysis? I had always been intrigued - not that the patients I knew [1], some of them graduates, proved enticing, mostly the opposite, to engage in what seemed like a mysterious undertaking, and whose mysteries, the more deeply familiar I became with them, become, in important respects, no less so, no matter that you seem able to account for them in technical and conceptual terms.
For one year I had even lived with someone who had returned to New York to enter analysis full time about the time she moved in with me. We did not talk about her analysis, she neither reported what transpired in the sessions, nor did I make inquiry. I had a vague sense that her being in analysis with a man constituted a triangle of some kind; however, I had far more serious immediate triangular competitors to worry about with the then very avant-garde girl. [3] I had edited books in the field, Tilman Moser’s Years of Apprenticeship on the Couch, [4] whose revelations - if not directly opposed as contrary to the ethos of the discipline in the late 70s, went, best as I recall, unappreciated except by one member of the Southern California Chapter; and I got a vague sense of the discipline as being rife with sectarianism, which I knew other disciplines to stop being once certain fundamental matters were settled; as well as Ernest Bornemann’s Psychoanalysis of Money. [5] Yet I had not read any of the fundamental texts, such as the Interpretation of Dreams or The Ego and its Mechanisms of Defense or, except in college, any Freud aside Civilization and its Discontents and perhaps a few of his case histories; not that I had not been an avid but helter-skelter reader of lots of matters psychological since my highschool days. While I was an editor someone had tried to prevail on me to publish a Hans Kohut Reader, it was the same person who would button hole me at lampposts about “object relations” – as though I knew what he was raving about! – texts that seemed obscure at the time. I was living in New York and so was exposed to matters analytic. The concepts were concepts, upon the experience they acquired the weight of experience; without the weight of experience they would have remained mere concepts. I only learn from my wounds. Now that I have a fair amount of the experience I sometimes feel uneasy about wanting to confine it within concepts. But I have little choice, don’t I?
At the time I entered analysis, I was wondering about my judgment, especially about most of the people I became involved with, the chances I was taking, my over-optimism, my ability to do "everything on my own" - that is how I would put it then and still do now except for the proviso that my doubts could not have been better founded; the sense of apprehension was vague, but the consequences of my misjudgments, that much I knew, required safety; a certain kind of revolutionary life was taking its toll. Once I reached my decision, and decisively so, I contacted an author whose dissertation on stage fright I was going to help edit into a more accessible book, a manuscript it appears I understood. This man, a candidate, who seemed frighteningly deferential to the discipline, said to give someone by the name of Dr. Eissler a call. While dropping off a manuscript which we could not publish, a possibly prescient editor at this other publishing house, just happened to slip me a copy of Janet Malcom’s The Impossible Profession – that indeed proved intriguing. [6]
Given long periods in early childhood spent under protective custody in a considerable variety of spacious rooms with high ceilings, sometimes filled with shelves upon shelves of books, fairy tales and sagas interesting me especially, Dr. Kurt Eissler's sitting room proved instantly attractive. The man was also of the height, age and courtesy that elicited European childhood memories. At our second meeting Dr. Eissler mentioned that, unfortunately, he always had a hard time remembering what people, under these circumstances, had said the first time around. Dutifully – a bit puzzled and annoyed, sitting en face - I recounted what I thought was pretty much the same family saga. Who knows whether my slight annoyance was what altered the telling? - Perhaps Dr. Eissler kept notes.
This being my first serious conversation with an analyst [excepting the one who made a reluctant draftee into 4 F for sleepwalking in his late teens; and who, after hearing me out, pronounced me not all that incorrectly a fantast], who was I [there was one problem right there, one of them, anyhow] to pipe up in surprise - courtesy, too, which inhibition certainly was not always evident in my dreams; a certain over passivity, too no doubt.
At the end of the second meeting, Dr. E. stated that there "was a lot there," to which statement - ominous had it come from an oncologist - I hadn't the faintest what to reply, though I could have asked for enumeration: not that, if the enumeration had been spelled out in terms with which I am now familiar, would have meant anything at all to me: borderline maybe, though that analytically so lazy, self-satisfied term had an entirely different significance for me then. [7] Yet how right Dr. E. was in retrospect, and what did I want “man or woman, dog or elephant” - it is good to remember that Joseph Haydn wrote his Surprise Symphony for his sleepy Austrian audiences with an occasional drum roll. I said I wanted a man, thoroughly experienced, about his age, which meant about thirty years my senior, and what about him - my annoyance of an hour ago apparently forgotten – “couldn’t you take me on?” Dr. E. averred that he only treated adolescents, whereupon I failed to say, for example, that a recent girlfriend insisted that I was really Peter Pan; or: “I will prove to you how much of an adolescent I am” - and, later, when I began my real reading in the field - I appreciated Dr. Eissler's work: yes, he would have managed that part of me very well; how he would have dealt with the part of me that since a very young age was as ancient as he, is another matter. He said once he had found someone he would give me a call.
Having noticed in Dr. E.'s generous sitting room titles by an author whose work I published and another of whose masterpieces I was about to translate, I seized the opportunity to redress the conversational imbalance by making inquiry of my own. Dr. E. mentioned that he didn't cotton to Peter Handke – it was the early work - as I could understand once I read his writings and became familiar with his origins and tastes; whereas I shared his, he did not share my extension of them, but his so frankly expressed absence of a possibly shared interest then made it easier to forego this preferred high-ceilinged, literate venue with the spell that my grandfather cast on him from the past, telescoped though the age, by then, was roughly by half! The discovery of the significance of what is called “screen hungry” lay well ahead of me.
Within the week Dr. E. called, to say that his first choice was over-booked, his second a man, experienced, not his age, who however knew German. With my then firmly held notion, however I had arrived at it, that analysis meant a near total preoccupation with one’s childhood, I knew the time would come when the relationship would have to be conducted in the language of childhood or, for the least, that the analyst needed to understand German, if not Plattdeutsch [Lowland German], which is like Nederlansk [Dutch], akin to Old English and a derivative of Gothic. I sensed this without understanding anything of regression. I had a notion, however acquired, that analysis involved an archeological exploration. Dr. E. also said during that telephone conversation, and the emphasis he put on the word was not as I had heard it before: “Well, we just have to make another compromise.” That was not a word I particularly liked, but one that I had never come on in reference to anything having to do with psychoanalysis, no matter that, in relationship with, for example, the partners at the publishing firm I invariably tried to find a fair way of splitting the differences; or, more typically, giving up half to get one real half for myself.
Meanwhile, of course, I have a very different appreciation of what constitutes compromise than I did then, especially of the compromises that are reached in the strata where dreams are formed, tense as those, too, may be. Not that I had not the opportunity to say that I was not in the business of compromises when it came to my psyche before Dr. E. mentioned that I ought to send him a postcard down the line and let him know what I thought of Dr. X; he wasn't really sure about him. Far more confused, then, than however I may be now, I - with physicians in his family background and who had known quite a few physicians in my life, to all of whom, except for the occasional painful or mistaken moment, I had had a positive relationship, a me who felt that writer physicians were the best writers, and who had considered becoming a physician myself - had certainly never been referred to a doctor by a doctor about whom the good doctor had his doubts. But if the purpose of the suggestion was to put a sometimes extremely nonchalant me on an alert, an alert a preferably also sleepy me did not want to be in, that purpose, as well as the puzzlement introduced by the “second take,” to use a term from the recording industry, could not have been better served. I sent Dr. E. his postcard about the time that Dr. X announced to a baffled me that the “transference” had set in. I might [again] have asked Dr. X, what he was talking about, to me who, by then, had been talking away on the couch for some months. The word rapport I would have understood. “Yes, best as I can tell, he seems o.k.” But how and who was I to assess an analyst, as compared to someone who botched an operation? As to finding Dr. X to be o.k.: more on that anon.
One matter that Dr. E. handled with seemingly greater aplomb was the question of money. Asking him at the end of the second hour how much I owed, he replied, “Oh, I never really know how much to charge for this kind of consultation,” which saying once again nonplussed someone who had paid fair sums to two fine European physicians during a twenty year period in New York, and who knew about set rates. However, the sum that, on some thought, I found fair recompense for these two hours, then became the sum set by Dr. X, obviating need for any haggling between us, an elegance that I, with a certain, typically European, certainly also class-based, distaste of talking about money, much liked. However, the sum that I – who had a thing about being “fair,” which automatic response, on later reflection, I concluded I had learned from my mother who indeed had always been as fair as she could be and had suffered the consequences – then decided was fair recompense for the two hours spent with Dr. E. was less than what I could initially afford and than the average going rate in N.Y. at that time; and it was less for the very reason that I found Dr. E., as a physician, odd; and so, had I not had a thing about being fair I might even have sent him considerably less for those two hours. By colluding with Dr. E. in arriving at this figure [I happen to be the not that unusual person who detests it if people he knows are speaking about him behind his back, and then are not up front to me about what they have said] all for the salutary sake of not interposing the hurdle of haggling at the opening of the race, much appreciated as that happened to be in my case, Dr. X was depriving himself. For all that Dr. E. knew, I - the co-publisher of a small firm - might be privately wealthy; the ambiguous mode of my then usual combo of jeans & Brooks Brother’s herringbone jacket, was not susceptible of immediate interpretation, not that this person, who had explored the heights and the bowels of NY during the twenty years I had spent there, could not have enlightened him if he had asked.
At any event, the aborted opportunity to discuss the fee, and matters relating to money, and what that might reveal, obviated anything but this one chancy peek – into an apparent realm of agreeability - into that so very revelatory realm. Moreover, the maneuver of establishing a sum by fiat, as it were, infantalized me, taking this decision out of my hands and the realm of discussion. Not that I could not have piped up – but I was getting a good deal, my analyst was coming in on the cheap! However, I regret not pointing out, at the time that I was so agreeable, that I really wanted to pay the average going rate. Nor that the time wouldn’t come when the fee that I myself had accepted proved a real burden, and that I discovered that some occasional ways of being generous covered up an occasional niggardliness, when the pocket book became tight, that did not fit at all with my self-image!
It could be said that the two parties, analyst and analysand, on the once, were entering a thicket of assumptions, which of course could be cleared up. I may have been far more naïve in the early 80s than I am now, but however sleepy or head in the clouds I may have appeared, I was not a complete dummy. It is my guess that maneuvers of the kind, even the last that Dr. E. worked on me, have a deleterious consequence for the reputation of the profession. There is a fine saying by Alfred Bion, to the effect that the encounter of any two persons is like that of two storms: so very much – or does not - come into play, as it so evidently did immediately in Dr. E.’s and my weather systems, with consequences for the latitudes that Dr. X and I would travel together. Counter-transference existed before it was called that and is a two way street, or as the case may be, stomach. To take unfair advantage of the power of insight that the analyst enjoys on first encounter in the dyadic relationship is bound to be disadvantageous to the treatment, as it is to any serious relationship. On the other hand, both sides can always put all cards on the table at any time.
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After talking to Dr. X en face for eight sessions at a kind of beehive or apartment complex filled with shoe boxes full of analysts [which, moreunder - in lieu of moreover - housed the office of a nattering, delinquent author of mine, a would-be analyst who had infiltrated the complex’s basement; and who, at some point served nicely, in a dream, as a heavily overdetermined day-residue for “the bad analyst”! - “Yes, right here, in your basement. Could I ever tell you stories! Funnee!”], Dr. X allowed that "I didn't understand my story," an assessment with which I had no quarrel since I wasn't even sure that I needed to have a story, story teller though I was, preferring to tell everything, including this communication, mostly in story form, but which assessment, in retrospect, now that I know how comparatively complicated a story it may be, I emphatically endorse - and so why didn't I lie down on the couch? And after promptly doing so, I well recall the sound of surprise emanating behind me the first time I - who had no idea patients can be reluctant to submit to the couch – lay, oh so eagerly down on the couch: no, not to fall asleep - as a recently discussed case of a wonderful safety-and rest-seeking patient did - but for the adventure to begin; an adventure on the couch, what dangers could it pose, particularly to someone like me who loved recumbence? Fly me to the moon! And, in no end of instances, the little noises, guffaws, sounds of surprise, groans of despair or the laughter emanating from behind me were as important as Dr. X’s interpretations; if only for reasons of maintaining some spontaneous living contact within what, at times certainly, seemed like going down four thousand feet into the Guaymas Trench in a bathysphere - something that I, whose dream metaphors were drenched with maritime imagery and who had spent time at sea, would actually do about ten years later in that kind of utter slightly rustling stillness, child’s play compared to an analysis, nor in the instance of that adventure entirely by my lonely self; although, with time, and in some many respects entirely egotistical, I began to have an inkling that the experiment was a mutual one, that we were in the bathysphere together, as I would be in the future with a different kind of expert whose attention, however, hovered on very different kind of exotic fauna and flora and possible difficulties, at 4,000 feet under sea.
However, for long stretches, during the analysis, I became most, if not too, comfortable on the refugio couch; there turned out to be an analyzable highly egotistical twist to that, too. During another, very long stretch, the couch turned into a rack, which a tad of masochism can make bearable, as can a touch of residual steeliness; curiosity, and love – since that was not to be had in that situation – stubbornly transformed into the love of understanding, however, being, in my instance, one of the chief motivators to seeing the process, ultimately, through most of its viscous and obscure mediaeval periods.
Freud gave as reason for his preference of having patients on the couch that he did not like to stare them in the face for long periods of time, which makes a kind of perfect “natural” sense, although he of course knew already about regression from Hughling Jackson well before, if that is what it takes to know that people relax and regress and are more open, usually, once they are recumbent. Freud makes no comment as to the patient’s preference and what effects that may have on the treatment; nor, best I know, how that changed emphasis from the sense of sight to that of hearing - the first sense to develop intrauterine – alters the nature of the relationship between analyst and analysand. Bertram Lewis’ notion of the “dream screen” of course was not yet the succinct explanatory model for the state I would enter. - I, for one, departed the first analysis under the impression that I had absorbed Dr. X’s ear - I could listen so well into myself, especially into the well-springs of my dreams; with further travels, with a different guide, ahead of me.
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The first two weeks’ eight sessions with Dr. X - and never again, except for those instantly formalizing arrivals and leavings at which, turning around for that </span>last look, I caught sight </span></span></h1>
SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-84395530634540545982017-03-05T17:23:00.001-08:002017-03-09T12:39:38.590-08:00A COMMENT ON NAGELS BENNETT REVIEW<br />
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">[and fine hard drinking and dancing fellows they all were!]</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">and discovering that you claim that human [thus all kinds of mammalian consciousness, including my dreaming hunting dog’s] is a delusion - and not just, perhaps, a misnomer.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">How is that feasible in the instance of someone who performs such a fine two-step process prior to reaching a decision, knowing, it seems, that he may have missed one or the other element that ought to have been part of his consideration, who perhaps factors in the inevitability of such a mishap since he appears to acknowledge the existence of an unconscious - no matter whether your concept, of what I regard a truly vast realm, coincides with mine.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">Why oh why deny consciousness when it can be shown to operate in dreams while part of us is asleep & unconscious, say in the form of what is termed “secondary revision” , one of the last if not the last step in the dreamwork</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">But perhaps I am missing something,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">With kind regards nonetheless</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace , monospace; font-size: medium;"><b>One feature of human minds is that they have consciences, which implies that there must be a consciousness to produce a conscience, whatever it is that makes me feel guilty, makes me aware of that guilt, deserves the name consciousness within the language game that we are a part of. Conscience even operates within dreams as most obviously demonstrated by the dream feature of “secondary revision” where an element of the dream is altered at the final stage of the dreamwork, to make it more fitting appropriate to the conscience, to the lying superego and its vanities and fears of pain! That all this has an electro-chemical and biological parallel is proved I suppose most definitely by psychosomatic events. There also exist fine and useful concepts as “pre-conscious” where you sense matters becoming conscious, which sometimes get suppressed or repressed again by the feature called denial or “attack on linking.”</b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: monospace , monospace; font-size: medium;"><b>Alas for poor Bennett, a wasted life, like certain theologians, brilliance wasted on a dead star.</b></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"> </span><b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">An unfamiliar roar, like
continuous thunder, is waking me and I rear up in bed as two lightning bolts flash
and strike, near simultaneously, followed near instant by peals of thunder,
window glass shatters – had I been clutching the Steif monkey that I then let
go off? or toss. At any event, I leap out of bed and rush to the window that
looks out on the woods, open its two panels, shards all around, and hear Mara, the
German Shepherd yowling hysterically in her enclosure, a yowling that turns
into a keening, more and more high pitched and then ceases, throttled: the roar
of planes disappearing in a north-westerly direction – Ah that’s what that was.
I had heard talk of bombers.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.feuerwehr-bremen.org/ueber-uns/historie/zerstoerung-bremens/">https://www.feuerwehr-bremen.org/ueber-uns/historie/zerstoerung-bremens/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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vom 18. zum 19. </span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #373a3c; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Mai 1940.</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> It took me a long time to fall back
asleep, hugging my <i>Steif </i>Monkey that my parent had brought
back from one of their travels, I recall hanging on to it until one of its pink
ears became moth-eaten.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> When
I awake earlier than usual the following morning, earlier than anyone else, I
sneak down the staircase and walk out onto the veranda and notice that the
glass of all the large windows has shattered, the shards of glass looking like
tear drops in the flower heads in the sun. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Walking down the few steps of the veranda and turning
right, out to Mara’s <i>Zwinger </i>[enforcer] enclosure on a section of
the lawn not visible from the veranda - a square 100 by 100 foot shady area
adjacent to the woods which bore the name “croquet” playing ground - I am
shocked: Mara is hanging by her collar
from the highest part of the fence; she
committed suicide is a remembered thought of that moment. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Klinner, our
foreman, came by about the same time and told me that two bombs had
fallen near the riding rink, about 150 yards off, leaving two craters in the
ground, “like graves” he said, that large and deep, right next to each other.
The story went, so Klinner said, that the British bombers were afraid to
actually penetrate the air-space over Bremen which was defended by dirigibles
with razor wire sharp enough to cut the bomber wings, which is why they dropped
their bombs at the outskirts of town.”</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> This event is the inception of what I
call my “Expulsion from Paradise,” in Spring 1940. As compared to
the first screen memory, in this instance, of the first bombs, I realize
that memory has edited the events, compounded them and rearranged them. I was
indeed wakened by two bombs that fell simultaneously 100 some yards off in
the Fir Place woods, but lightning strikes and simultaneous thunder derive from
other experience, were projections of that moment to make sense of it, and
signify the shock of the totality of this experience – the shattered windows,
the suicidal dog, the expulsion from Paradise which
the bombs elicited - the next day I and my governess were sent
packing to an allegedly safer venue.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> Moreover, the flash of two 500 pound bombs exploding
on the ground, at least one hundred yards away, in the woods, is not visible
through a thick fir forest; no doubt the sound of thunder elicited a
hallucinated lightning flash in my mind ex post facto. Fantasy has added its
components, the most serious being m five-year-Old's assumption that the German
shepherd Mara had committed suicide – leaving Fir Place elicited suicidal
impulses in me, I hated leaving. The next time I recall feeling suicidal was
when my father spanked me for being disobedient and going with Klinner to pick
up coal in the horse and wagon during impending air raids in July 1944. {The 19<sup>th</sup>
of July Section]</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> The terrified, hysterical shepherd dog indeed
strangled herself with her collar at an upper part of the fence of her
enclosure [The <i>Zwinger</i>] but “Enforcer” also refers to my governess
whose orders whose numerous “nos” elicited my resistance and fury; say, the
fury of a stubborn Billy-goat; the dog’s fury also signified my near suicidal
fury at having to leave paradise in company of my enforcer, my governess. In
other words, the details have been, in the long meanwhile, over-emphasized,
compacted, over-determined, and that is why these details most likely have been
remembered all these many years, whereas other less emotionally determined
recollections are not, or do not seem as accessible.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> The drops of dew in the flowers, not just
the shattered shards of glass, also signify my tears; however, since I can be
said to have been crying inside since I was taken from my mother at age
nine months, those tears too are over-determined. Loss loss loss. There was a
time during the many years that I carried this book with me that I was going to
call the memoir “Irretrievable Losses.” This commentary, in other words,
appears to be necessary in telling this event which elicited hectic activity of
the inhabitants of the villa with the result that within a day my father’s
chauffeur Schmidt and Maybach automobile takes me and my governess to the St.
Magnus suburban station, a five-year-old, sad-looking boy and a dowdy spinster
- image for a film! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">However, before
departing from my paradise it appears that I took one more 4 & ½ years old’s
amble through the forest.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"> </span><b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">If the clearing that you could see from my
bedroom window was the first section of Fir Place to become laden
with dream imagery - for the Billy goat chasing me up to the clearing in
my first nightmare - the croquet area where Mara strangled herself in
her terror, then became the second area to acquire an extra charge. </span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Soon after,
the enclosure was dismantled as were the last remnants of playing croquet – the
mallet, the wire goals, the colored balls – a big chopping block was placed
there, and as “chopping block area” it would serve for a second huge event in
my life a few years hence: the spot whence I witnessed the arrival of
the first wagon load of refugees in Spring 1945 – the inception of a
few idyllic years that ended with the inception of the Cold War in 1947.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> Forgetting momentarily about the significance
of the pond and the willow-lined path between the pond and marshy meadow to the
left - the third areas to be specifically laden with memories and fears - were the two bomb craters near the
riding rink, well on the other side of the road that skirted the pond before the
road leads back up the chestnut alley to the house. It appears I made an
expedition to the bomb site and looked at the two
grave-length bomb beds is what they looked like more than funnels or
craters, as though the two-some had landed as a pair, sideways. When I made
my first awkward colored pencil drawings – in another year or so - it
was of the most awkward bombers tossing sausage-like bombs. By then I was
secreted away in the far south-eastern part of the then still expanding Reich
and must have got heard r or even seen in that Bavarian village what village
boys did by throwing shit at each other which is what bombers appeared to do in
my drawing, long sausages filled with brown! at the stage of sadist anality for
sure, or is it monkeydom that village boys reside in at that stage of their
life. So if bombers threw shit, the two bomb craters or graves were
what??? I kept thinking of them, and that they were so near to the fox holes
the side of the riding rink that had been cut out of the slope.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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of various kinds - bomb and ack ack
shrapnel - marked the remainder of WW II as well as man subsequent experiences.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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“Otis Media” {Middle Ear Infection-Tonsillitis] section plays in May 1944 while
I am having my tonsils removed in an above-ground bunker hospital in Bremen while
the city is under attack and this beton bunker as well as everything inside is
tremoring. During a visit to my parent’s Budapester Strasse apartment in 1943 I
either fantasize or hear the animals in the near-by zoo screaming during a
night time raid – I tend to think this is a hysteri- induced fantasy, but it pursued
me for years and into a story I wrote in 1955. The final, the Alaska chapter of
<u>Screen Memories,</u><i> </i>features my
first night forest fire-fighting near the Yukon with P-38s bombing fire retardant
onto the line-fighters! Terror creates the most distinct memories it seems.</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif; font-size: 16.0pt;"> I hear
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-28782597902459940592015-05-13T19:30:00.001-07:002015-08-19T16:42:44.159-07:00FIRST SCREEN MEMORY FROM "screen memories"<div align="CENTER" lang="zxx" style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b><span style="background: #ffffff;">I always loved the ingenuity with which Freud solved some conundrums, such as "A Child is Being Beaten" or the Mystical Experience of the Wriging Pad & the Acropolis and here I am laboring with a major screen memory!</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="background: #ffff00;"> <span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><u>The
Catastrophe Explicated</u></b></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">A: The
scene is the following: a four year old child is ploppped into the
middle of an oval electric toy railway network. At one end sits the
child's father who manipulates the electric controls; at the other
end, adjacent the toy railway tunnel, the child's maternal
grandfather, stretched out on the floor all seven feet of him in
leather hunting knickers with black splotches of dried blood. The
object of the exercise, the exhibition demonstration - the wish - is
to get two trains to pass through the tunnel in opposite directions
simultaneously. </span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">B: Let
me be methodical and take the items one by one. Let me recount the
sequence of events once more in detail & since a screen memory is
like a frozen dream each detail refers to the dreamer, to me, and the
possibility that the memory changes in my telling of it, dwelling on
it, is an entanglement whose consequences I will not be able to
control or to fathom. I know I will be projecting into the
interpretation - memories of earlier traumas will be discovered
which are not necessarily all that prominently evident here. (1)</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><i><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">C-Father
announces that he will send two train in the opposite direction in
that they pass under and through a tunnel simultaneously. My father
really crouches, squats, an intense expression on his face, at the
controls, at the knobs that control the electricity that powers the
toy engines that buzz like hornets or bumble bees on the large oval
network, and later, at moments of intense involvement, I, too,
assume a similar intense expression. </span></b></i></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">D: The
intention is to impress, a feat is to be performed! <i>The
grandfather is stretched out near the tunnel's opposite end. (As I
myself will later in life, prefer to be.) </i></span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><i><b><span style="background: #ffff00;"> The
women hover around. </span></b></i></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;"><i> However,
this big generous Christmas gift, is my father’s toy more than it
is mine who has been placed into the center of the oval, I don’t
have a photo of what I look like in the oval, but looking at photos
of myself at that age, sniffing flowers, in my sandbox I imagine
myself dressed in the same kind of toddler wool pants, whose
scratchiness I can more than imagine, they still scratch the memory
of my baby thighs.</i></span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: yellow; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial;"><b style="color: #222222; font-family: 'Courier New', monospace; font-size: 22pt; font-style: italic;">E: My
father has taken command of the gift and does not even have his son
participate in his engineering feats. Single-minded.</b> </span><b style="color: #222222; font-family: 'Courier New', monospace; font-size: 22pt;"><span style="background: #ffff00;"><i>T</i>his
first element of the memory also appears to contain the message that
I am envious of being a mere spectator, that I was not in control,
but that my father was of the knobs, the flow of electricity.</span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><i><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">E-The
trains start forth on the oval. As the train that passes nearest to
my grandfather passes him he reaches for a switch near the tunnel,
his index finger flicks the switch and the two trains crash inside
the tunnel, do not pass through it, producing the angry noise of
frustrated electric motors. The result is the catastrophe of two
toy-trains colliding head-on inside a make-believe papier-mache green
and grey alpine tunnel; two angry toy train engines sparking,
hissing, growling inside a tunnel, heat followed by cold. </span></b></i></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><i><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">F: The
father exclaims "Oh Werner, look at what you have done,"
knowing at once it appears that it had been the famous joker, his
father in law - in his leather hunting knickers with the laugh-lines
around his eyes and the <u>verschmiztes</u>, the mischievous
expression - who is responsible for the industrial mishap, the ruin
of his best-laid plans and demonstration of his engineering skills.
The tunnel is lifted, the two locs are on top of each other, the rest
of the trains are an entangled mess. </span></b></i></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">G: Yes,
it really happened like that, and it happened at Christmas 1940. The
war had begun, the western half of it. The other half, the German,
Hitler’s perfidious 1941 attack on the Soviet Union, is still to
come. 1940 would be my most memorable Christmas, it became the
exemplary one, because the whole family was present, especially my
grandfather, on vacation from a concentration camp (a brief Christmas
visit during which grandfather and grandchild link up; as I was, at
the moment of being in the oval, apparentently freed from my
governess, Ms. No's supervision while in the oval observing these
events, yet the oval is also a fence, a further ambiguous detail.), a
matter that was neither told nor explained to me, because if I had
been told... there would have to have been an explanation, a long
series of explanations. How do you explain politics to a four year
old? Family situations: yes - but you don’t even need to explain
those, children’s antennae pick them up, mine certainly were
attuned, I seem to have picked up my mother’s disappointment in her
successful husband - the general manager, that Christmas, of an
extensive toy railway network; and her preference for her father. Was
I disappointed in this father, too? Well, based on the first
nightmare (2) and the screen memory, which includes that head-on
crash of two locomotives, he and I were at loggerheads from early on
- and we remained so throughout his life and through my memory of
him. Ancient animal stuff, inexorable, biologically based. I even
became more unrelenting, or at least as unrelenting as I grew older
as he had been during my childhood while he softened. Yet there
remained something missing, the unhappy fighting relationship left a
gap, the gap expressed itself occasionally in a longing to rest upon
the breast of a big solid reliable man who might back me up - this aspect is a
comparatively straightforward component of this otherwise, I think,
complex screen memory. </span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">H: Perhaps
the most important matter to keep in mind is that there is the actual
occurrence and then what use it has been put intra-psychically to create a plausible story - the secondary revision as it were. After
all, this is one of the two memories of that fourth year of my life extra-uterine. They are both extreme concentrations of my life then.
<i>There are the surface events that fit a psychic event, or a series
of psychic events, and that is why the surface becomes symbolic,
surface and psychic events, traumas seem to mesh. Even then fated to
be the translator of Handke's </i><u>Innerworld of the Outerworld of the
Innerworld</u>? - That is a joke of course.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">I: Although
the actual scene is sociologically and historically interesting I am
more interested, right now, in the intra-psychic projections, on the
details and events of the railway accident.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">J:-A toy railroad, an oval. I find myself in the center of that oval, the
center of my self, my grandiosity split off from what I am
observing, eyes darting back and forth between father and
grandfather. The collision in the tunnel constitutes a breach in that
circle, a narcissistic injury. </span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">K-There
is the control knob or knobs, for the juice, the electricity, that
makes the locomotives run. That indicates to me that I masturbated, a
fervent early childhood masturbator - but not only for the sake of
pleasure but to assuage fears, while engaging in what fantasies?
Train fantasies perhaps, tunnel fantasies? The tunnel is a
representation of the anal cavity.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">L: The
switch, which is flicked, an act that hurts my penis even now when I
think of it - I am reminded of my Mexican village and kids and
adults instantly, instinctively shielding their genitals when they
are afraid, and are not yet socially trained not to do so.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">M: The flicking of the switch is what leads to the crash, the head-on
collision; the presumption is that if it had not been flicked the two
locomotives would pass each other in the tunnel without colliding -
after all, that was my father's (my) plan, which was sabotaged.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;"> So
what actually switches intra-psychically? Well, my affection switches
to my grandfather. But I am prevented from being a switch hitter, the
bi-sexual wishes, tendency is disrupted - I recall that during
analysis my left arm and hand and foot became as powerful as my right
side! The homophobia, as well as associated fear of being dominated,
like a woman, is as evident here as in the first nightmare. </span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;"> After
my grandfather's conspiratorial glance catches my attention he will
lead my glance to his hand that flicks a switch just as one of the
two trains is about to enter the tunnel: a switch is a <i>Weiche</i>
in German,<i> a softness </i>is its other meaning, it also means to
<i>avoid, </i>as in <i>ausweichen, to avoid, Eiche weiche, Buche
suche </i>is a German proverb that advocates seeking out Beech trees
during thunderstorms and avoiding Oaks - who knows whether there is
any truth to it, whether lightning prefers Oak trees to Beech trees
if given a choice! <i>Step aside, don’t confront, </i>whereas what
happened within seconds was that crash of two toy locomotives
crashing <u>head-on</u> inside the tunnel, and sparks, short
circuiting, the furious sound of electrical motors grinding in utter
frustration, until there is deathly silence, and my father William
speaks up: “Oh Werner look at what you have done.” What a mess
you have made, what a <i>Bescherung!</i></span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">N: What
is most puzzling in many ways is not why that evening is so
memorable, the evening of the “<i>Bescherung</i>” as it is called
in German, of the “big mess”, but that no other evenings of that
period are recalled! or whole days, which is yet another reason why
it was, is, became so memorable? What is puzzling is that nothing
else of that day, but my mother <u>gifting the mystic writing pad</u>, is
directly memorable, nor of the day before, or of the day after, even
though I can provide a general idea of my life as a four year old,
how he got about in the woods, that I was in a harness leads to the
supposition that young I was an <i>Ausreisser</i> (<i>an escape
artist</i>) as of early on, possibly I had explored the entire woods,
all 100 + acres of them by age four? Trundled down to the pond and
meadow and clambered up the clearing in the woods on the other side?
It appears I knew the clearing - it appears in my first nightmare: I
has been told not to be “<i>bockig</i>”, not to be like a Billy
goat, also I had been told not to play with the Billy goat that was
used to trim the lawns. In the nightmare a Billy goat transformed
into the Unicorn of fables that have been read to me and whose
picture I have been shown, pursues me down the path towards the pond
and meadow, I rush across the path - inter urinam and feces - the
pond on the left, the marshy meadow on the right, and up into the
grassy clearing, the slit, I a little would-be mother-ficker at age
four, and that theme is re-iterated when I am chased to the
inter-section of two fences - to the V - the Billy goat unicorn pins,
seeks to pinion me from behind and I wakes in terror. </span></b></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">O: </span></b></span></span></span><b style="font-family: 'Courier New', monospace; font-size: 22pt;"><span style="background: #ffff00;"><span style="color: #222222;">There
is the bi-sexual conflict: on the one hand I am a would be
mother-fucker, on the other I also am terrified of being fucked, in
the behind, dominated, emasculated. In the screen memory the locs pile on top of each other,
smash-up. That is why that Christmas became a screen memory from
which the major fault lines, as in an earthquake, can be traced. It
is a mother lode, a magnet for memories that I have carried with me
all these years, a precious, deeply intriguing yet crude gemstone, an
object that has not been smoothed out, no matter how much it has been
worked over, this event - even after an analysis & an analysis of
the anlysis, still produces associations, it is the richest of mines.
So all this really happened and this sequence of events is one of the
two events that I remember from that entire year, the other is of the
bombs that will crash into the forest a few months hence, but for my
first nightmare, and the smell of the flowers, but for the memories
that those photos of me and my mother elicit. I recall this event as
though it had occurred just now. From it I can reconstruct the house, the orchards, the lawns, the fir forest; all entirely idyllic,
but what transpired that evening is not. It is a screen memory, or
rather: it is a memory each of whose details are drenched, laden with
significance. The details have been arranged into a story, a
configuration, an event has accumulated significant details, which,
once they are analyzed, tell a very different story, or stories. The
event impressed itself... it itself was a minor mishap that was
quickly repaired. What transpired intra-psychically in in me, and
found its expression in the story of the railway catastrophe is
catastrophic, irreparable.</span></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">P: I
had not been in a railway crash. My railway adventures lay ahead of
me, although not by too many months. Whenever given the opportunity
to go near a locomotive when a train is halted inside the numerous
stations that my trains stops at, or if the train is halted outside a
city, waiting for the green light, I will do so. The locomotives
hissing, their steaming, their impatience to go to work, so animate
despite its inanimate steel hulk were infinitely fascinating.
Machines yet organic, like horses in some way the way they snorted
and heaved and were rearing to go, steel steeds. LOKOMOTIV SVERDLOSK/
DYNAMO DRESDEN!</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="background: #ffff00;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b> Whenever
one of the many trains that I took with my overseer governess had to
stop outside a city and wait for the all clear to be able to proceed,
or for other, less dire reasons, I leaned out the window to keep an
eye on the loc. Locomotives were the embodiment of power, of
potency and of impatience, of frustration released; the future
experiences with locomotives, steam locomotives was projected
backwards onto my experience at Christmas 1940/1941. But what
collided psychically inside me so that the collision of two toy
locomotives would become so memorable? so representative? So
concretely symbolic? </b></span></span></span></span>
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<span style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><u><b><span style="background: #ffff00;">What
if there had been no gift of a toy railroad and demonstation? Might
there have been such a great summary of the essence of the earliest
major events in my life?</span></b></u></span></span></span></div>
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ABORGINAL TRAUMA:</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><span style="font-size: 22pt;"><b><span style="background: #ffff00;"><span style="color: black;">Let
me hark back to my then two majo traumas. The first was the transfer
at age nine months from my mother’s face and breast to the dried up
teats and grizzled face of my governess. Perhaps other infants would
not have been so wounded, so traumatized as I was at an experience
that changed from heaven to hell in one day. It was a </span><span style="color: black;"><i>crushing
</i></span><span style="color: black;">event. I did not take it well, I
became so </span><span style="color: black;"><i>feverish</i></span><span style="color: black;">
that I started to waste away; then I turned </span><span style="color: black;"><i>ice
cold</i></span><span style="color: black;">, the absence of the mother, of
her beautiful young breast with the face superimposed on it. - It was
an incomprehensible event - how does a mother tell her infant that
there are things she has to do for which she must be free? Nine
months of love did not suffice for me especially since the surrogate
was experienced as ugly: not only was she experienced as ugly, from
the very beginning she was experienced as Ms. No - everything was no:
I could no longer shit into my diapers! I was being potty trained;
that warmth was gone too. Not only was she Ms. No, she was also
experienced as someone who took charge of my life; she wanted to put
on my socks, comb my hair, I became the possession of someone who
sought to tried to thwart the charging locomotive; although whether
she actually flicked at my “little one” when I masturbated I
cannot tell, it might be a projection of the psychic onto the
physical, but is one reason why I object so strongly to the idea of
circumcising infants. It certainly was not my grandfather who did:
his flicking flipping the switch is what might be called a
displacement, a switching from what the governess did onto him, even
the idea of displacement is illustrated, someone also had to “turn
the knob”, and that idea was then transferred onto my father: you
can regard the sequence of events as an attempt to regulate my
infantile sexuality, my bi-sexual nature. What a beautiful sequence
of events, isn’ it? What a perfect sequence of events to acquire a
load of current! To be charged with analogies and significance! It is
as though I dreamed up the story to tell all kinds of matters
simultaneously. Is that all there is? As with most dreams there is no
way of telling whether you have comprehended everything that
transpire in it, there is no way of telling whether I have coaxed
every bit of meaning, every analogy from this story of a railway
crash, of this aborted bi-sexual wish. </span></span></b></span></span></span>
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Aboriginal Nightmare (ctd from main text): </span></span><span style="color: black;">The clearing
is the brightest spot in the woods, at all times of day and night,
from my room on the second floor of our house I could look down the
path and up to the clearing, which is called a “Schneise” in
German, a word that sounds a lot like </span><span style="color: black;"><i>schneiden,
</i></span><span style="color: black;">to cut. And that is the feeling I
had that morning, as though a knife had cut into my brain, benumbed.
My entire life, I will periodically be cut down in that fashion. It
is the kind of dream from which you might never recover, like the
dream of the three wolves that cut down the Wolfman: A billy goat in
the form of a unicorn chases me to the </span><span style="color: black;"><i>Scheise
</i></span><span style="color: black;">and beyond to the interesection
where the Fir Place fences form a V - I am pinned, there is no escape
in that ambiguous V, and I wake up in terror. That dream respeats
itself about a year or two later after I have seen a dancing bear in
Vornbach am Inn, and it is a bear who chases me into a spot of no
escape. Living in Billy the Kid country in the mid-eighties, in the
Sacramentoes, with a black bear in a nearby cave I buy myself a Bear
tag, but the bear is frightened off by some Texas bear hunters before
I can excercise the license that the tag provides; however, I manage
to wrestle my two darling milk goats to the ground when they become
too ornery, and am frightened to death to for them at the sight of
the Billy Goat at the goat farm where I have taken them to be
"serviced".</span></span></b></span></span></span></div>
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</span></span><span style="color: black;">Asking myself the question
whether the toy railroad was the only gift I received that Christmas
it occurs to me that it must have been the same Christmas at which I
received the magic reading tablet from my mother. After all, it is
the last Christmas the family spends together for many years, and I,
I will be a reader by springtime when I and my governess set out on
our travels... There is that pensive moment when my mother introduces
me to the magic of reading. </span></span></b></span></span></span></div>
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I found himself to be in cahoots with his grandfather, a famously
conspiratorial person I would read his being described later in life,
I found out early what complicity could be, The seductiveness of a
gleam in an eye!</span></span></b></span></span></span></div>
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I clamber around the woods, around the flower beds, I have photos,
and sniffing flowers has been a constant throughout life, what he
looked like in his sandbox I know from photos: I can extrapolate from
that magnet: I am with my governess, I is wearing a kind of
wide-brimmed, floppy child’s sun-hat and look miserable... I
assume because I am with my governess, an assumption I make based on
my recollection that not for a single moment was I happy in her
company during the seven years that she was in charge of me, into
whose charge I kept being abandoned, only of her absence.</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: lime;">http://www.understandingcharliehebdo.com/</u></b></span><br />
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: lime;"><br /></u></b></span>
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: yellow;">http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/190694/pen-boycott#BHyTUrBWcleJEZQb.01</u></b></span><br />
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: yellow;"><br /></u></b></span>
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: lime;">http://tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/190749/paris-pen-boycott</u></b></span><br />
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: lime;"><br /></u></b></span>
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: cyan;">http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/04/if-you-don-t-speak-french-how-can-you-judge-if-charlie-hebdo-racist</u></b></span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: lime;"><br /></u></b></span>
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: #d9d2e9;">http://www.lexpress.fr/culture/livre/alain-mabanckou-remettra-le-prix-liberte-d-expression-de-pen-a-charlie-hebdo_1676505.html</u></b></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: yellow;"><br /></u></b></span></span>
<span style="background-color: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: pt-serif, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: start;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b style="background-color: orange;">http://www.wsj.com/articles/charlie-hebdo-is-heir-to-the-french-tradition-of-religious-mockery-1420842456</b></span></span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: pt-serif, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: start;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b style="background-color: #cfe2f3;"><br /></b></span></span>
<span style="background-color: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: pt-serif, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; text-align: start;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b style="background-color: #cfe2f3;">http://www.steamthing.com/2015/04/charlie-hebdo-and-the-previous-question.html</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.lemonde.fr/actualite-medias/twitter/2015/05/06/liberte-d-expression-le-pen-american-center-recompense-charlie-hebdo_4628309_3236.html</u></b></span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: x-large;"><b style="font-family: 'Courier New', monospace;"><u>re: </u></b><span style="font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/opinion/why-were-honoring-charlie-hebdo.html?ref=international" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/<wbr></wbr>2015/05/02/opinion/why-were-<wbr></wbr>honoring-charlie-hebdo.html?<wbr></wbr>ref=international</a></u></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u style="background-color: #d9d2e9;">http://www.vice.com/read/we-spoke-to-seven-french-muslims-about-the-pencharlie-hebdo-controversy-535</u></b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u>http://www.france24.com/fr/20150506-charlie-hebdo-new-york-prix-liberte-expression-gala-pen-recompense</u></b></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: #ea9999;">https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/27/read-letters-comments-pen-writers-protesting-charlie-hebdo-award/</u></b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b><u style="background-color: #b6d7a8;">http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/pen-america-charlie-hebdo-and-the-virtue-of-self-restraint.html</u></b></span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b><u>La lotta continua</u></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b>http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121753/risks-siding-french-secularism?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=TNR%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%20-%205%2F11</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: Courier New, monospace;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;">http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/01/europe_s_confused_debate_about_islam_and_terrorism_europeans_are_both_too.html</b></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: courier new, monospace; font-size: x-large;"><b style="background-color: #ead1dc;">https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/27/read-letters-comments-pen-writers-protesting-charlie-hebdo-award/</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: courier new, monospace;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.thenation.com/blog/205897/charlie-hebdo-deserves-its-award-courage-free-expression-heres-why</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: courier new, monospace;"><b style="background-color: yellow;">https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/on-pen-and-charlie-hebdo/</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: courier new, monospace;"><b style="background-color: lime;">https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/against-cosmo-conscientiousness/</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>L'IDIOT DE GRIFFEN!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>I + II + III + IV + V</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Like Lothar Struck (a/k/a “the pseudo Gregor Keuschnig”) who dissertates so nicely on the subject of the theme of idiocy in Handke @:</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/forschung/pdf/struck-2014.pdf</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> I, too, could not fail to note during the course of reading the mounting oeuvre Handke’s surprisingly frequent mention of his affinity to idiots. Unlike Struck (a devotee whose uncritical hagiography manages to turn Handke into a bore) I - who feels no affinity but horror at the sight of idiots (1)- saw Handke - as artist an idiot savant for sure - occasionally behave in what is normally considered an idiotic or very odd fashion, so that I felt, at times, that Kaspar’s discombobulations in the eponymous play, while educated by prompters into a “normal” human being, was a deep projection (“Civilization and its discontents” if you will). </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>However, for me, the only interesting and useful thing that Handke - aside whatever affinity he feels - has ever said about the subject that might lead to some understanding of his kind of idiocy (in lieu of the forever literary banging about of the term in everyone from Dostoijevsky to Handke) comes in his booklength interview with Herbert Gantscher Ich lebe doch nur von den Zwischenraeumen,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/aber_ich_lebe_nur_von_den_zwischenraeumen-peter_handke_38217.html </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>II</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>The above transpires in 1971. I have known Peter Handke, if imperfectly, since 1966, then as compared to now. I know awfully little about his past (Die Hornissen makes you speculate, but that it is confirmedly autobiographical is a matter for the future assessment)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/die_hornissen-peter_handke_36916.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2012/12/die-hornissen-hornetslos-avispones.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>, I have known him for five years, since the Gruppe 47 meeting at Princeton in May 1966. We have met maybe half a dozen times. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruppe_47</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://german.princeton.edu/landmarks/gruppe-47/</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.zeit.de/1966/19/gruppe-47-in-princeton</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://thegoaliesanxiety.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/peter-handkes-1966-speech-at-the-princeton-meeting-of-the-gruppe-47/</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/node/1871</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>His famous Princeton attack didn’t do much for someone who had been in U.S. writing seminars; what bugged me was Hans Werner Richter’s cutting off a possible discussion. On the other hand, Handke’s generalized attack is typical of his future public statements, whether by design or characteristic ill-temper, which guarantees controversy in the controversy hungry media. It is a well documented event as well as recorded, also photographically: after Richter had advised Handke that comments were reserved for specific texts, Handke reiterated his initial attack, sounding like a broken record. I have heard of Handke supposedly rehearsing his statement! </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The event is characteristic of Handke’s exhibitionism - whether autistic exhibitionism differs in its aggressive, intentionally disturbing as well as demanding yet in an artist’s case also giving nature I might be able to say if I had a firmer grasp on Handke’s autism, which I do not. What seems odd about this event in retrospect of what we now know about Handke is that someone who literally rehearsed writing as a teenager the way others do, say piano or violin, who felt like a “made man” when Suhrkamp Verlag accepted his 1964 novel Die Hornissen, to the extent of abruptly breaking off his law studies at University of Graz, was in such a rush to become known that he could not wait for the novel’s publication that fall or the imminent premiere of Offending the Audience at TAT, Theater am Turm, or he felt so confident that he’d take a chance of drawing the spotlight on himself for it then to fall on his productions. The Princeton statement manifests the stand-up of a contrarian, who would go against however the main streamed, aufmuepfig is the wonderful Austrian term for this kind of irredentism, and of the spirit of a potential revolutionary. His subsequent essay I am an Inhabitant of the Ivory Tower, and others, seemed consistent with that spirit, although if you read and experience Kaspar you would have a hard time proving that its author was not eminently aware of and subversive of politics in a most fundamental, anarchist way. The objective of the status quo that is in power then is to buy off to still the irrendentism and turn it to its advantage, and in that respect Handke’s career becomes an object lesson, where ultimately, despite his odd foray into political activism in behalf of the deserved justice for the unjustly maligned Serbians there is a retreat into the classic position of a conservative parallel world of literature whence the literary God sends the occasional missive to disrupt and improve the conditions in Central Europe and beyond. What will be left are an toolbox of innovations that few will have the ability to comprise within their talents.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2014/09/celebrating-handkes-ibsen-prize.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>At Princeton, at that moment, I happened to be sitting next to Erich Kuby,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Kuby</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>the journalist, whom I knew from Hamburg. At first I had sat on the podium, next to H. M. Enzenberger</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Magnus_Enzensberger</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>whom I’d first met in 1961 at Ruth Landshof-York’s </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Land</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>on Cornelia Street in the Village, N.Y.C. Kuby happened to know the name of the upstart. Someone said “Ach ein Maedchen.” Subsequently Handke announced to the world that he was “the new Kafka.” You all recall the first Kafka’s announcement of his first coming!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I had met Richter </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Werner_Richter</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>in Berlin the year past, introduced by Uwe Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Johnson</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>I think, or Peter Weiss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Weiss</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> and we aappear to have failed to make a memorable impressions on each other, and it was Weiss I think or Weiss and Johnson whom I had to thank for being invited to Princeton. I think - ah “memory thinks”! - that I recall every moment I was with Johnson and Weiss and Grass. Weiss and I hit it off especially well, his softness and mine, but I haven’t the slightest recollection of the meeting with Richter in Berlin, and it appears I didn't especially impress him, this master seargent who had learned about democracy as a U.S. p.o.w. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I had the hunch that what Handke had in mind in his attack was stuff like Guenter Herburger’s </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Herburger</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>neo-realism which I knew from my scouting days in 1964 at Kiepenheuer & Witch, so that when Handke showed up at the party that (Seele aus Holz) Jakov Lind,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakov_Lind</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> and I, and the heiress Pannah Grady </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Obituary: Philip O'Connor - The Independent</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>www.independent.co.uk › News › Obituaries</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>The Independent</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Jun 2, 1998 - ... beautiful and beguiling American Panna Grady, whose self-effacing generosity to artists and writers in her New York apartment in the Dakota ...</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>had dreamed up at her utterly splendid apartment in the Dakota I approached him</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dakota </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>to ascertain whether I had guessed right - I mean, he couldn’t mean Grass, Johnson, Peter Weiss, Alexander Kluge and quite a few others, or he was a true idiot who should not have been at the meeting! Eventually, via an essay in </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Meine Ortstafeln - Meine Zeittafeln: 1967 - 2007 http://tinyurl.com/px55jgk </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/autoren/peter_handke_1738.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>I find out that I had guessed correctly. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>German Amazon being far more compleat </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://tinyurl.com/lw2gr2m</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Handke, in his Beatles phase, that evening in Spring 1966 was wearing an open collar shirt, of small brown, yellow and black chex, a red or pink carnation in its pocket, and dark sun glasses in surroundings which could not have been more favorably disposd, nearly as favorable as Elaine’s, toward making everyone look expensively tanned; and Handke like a NY hoodlum, who, thinking they are incognito? at least can not be seen focusing their eyes, wear sun glasses at all times of day and nite; and it was my querey “why those glasses?” that initiated our contact, Handke replying, that he had eye-problems, as he will describe them later in L.St.V. which prevent him from acquiring a driver’s license, life-long.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>For many years, then, Handke will wear shades, in the many photographs, although the predominance of sunglasses will eventually, noticeably, cease, as though the problem had been licked, improbably so if genetic. I can’t say that anyone else has noticed, in print.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://plus.google.com/photos/106505819654688893791/albums/5307894220077867457<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Spending time at the UCLA medical library back in the late 80s to track down the rare symptomalogy I figured hysteria - since he himself had found no other family member with similar manifestations - would be a sufficiently good explanation for Handke’s eye problems. Perhaps related to autistic episodes, which are related to Handke’s seemingly forever wanting to “run amok"?, not just as in the early seventies when he is panicked and distraught by both his mother’s suicide but by the wife fleeing. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/06/fugueing-section-from-part-ii-of-psycho.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>We are in a side room, Handke evidently uneager to talk and I don’t get the opportunity to ask my question as he drifts away and his host has other matters to attend to. At the next opportunity to talk to Handke he is in Panna’s main splendid dining room but - as I am about to ask my question - Allen Ginsberg - this is the first time I catch actual live sight of his eminently recognizable visage </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Ginsberg</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>- approaches me and asks me to tell Handke that he wants to fuck him. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>This is a new one on me, I’ve not even heard a man ask a woman in that straightforward a fashion at that point, and it will be about another decade before women become that straight forward in “post pill paradise.”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I am taken aback. Ginsberg repeats his demand in peremptory tones. “Translate for him that I want to fuck him” (it appears Ginsberg is ignorant of the prevalance of English in European curricula) at which point my green-blue Prussian eyes turn into daggers, Ginsberg backs off and I notice, out of the side of my left eye, Handke grin his famous Handke grin. (Grins like a complete idiot one could say!) What would my hyper-civilized grandmothers have said to all this!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>“Well, that’s nice, at least he has a sense of humor and is not as offended as I am,” is the sense of a thought that flits through my noggin - I’ll try to laugh, too, the next time this happens. However, whom Ginsberg actually means to fuck as it turns out passes Handke by (which may be part of the explanation of what Handke utters once he emerges back out of the juke box at my apartment five years hence), and is a matter that is not cleared up until about 15 years later, and that makes his grin appear in a very different light, namely that of the unconstrained sadist. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>see: http://www.van.at/lesen/set01/roloff01.htm</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>In Fall of that year, 1966, I decide that Die Hornissen is not a book I will propose at Farrar, Straus where, just married, but to </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke--revista-of-reviews.blogspot.com/2012/12/die-hornissen-hornetslos-avispones.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>a woman lacking social finesse, which is why I have not brought her along to the Panna Grady party for Gruppe 47, I have found a toehold as editor for German books: perhaps if I had a job at the preferred Grove Press who, however, has the far more experienced editor for German matters in Fred Jordan for whom I’d done quite a bit of work; but Fred - who must have read the book and got wind of Handke - didn’t do it either.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>However, with seconding from Susan Sontag, I manage to talk FSG - via telegram from Europe - into taking on Handke’s second novel, Der Hausierer, the very one that he read from at Princeton, and his early plays, in 1967. Trying to come up with a translator I fiddle around with Self-Accusation & Offending the Audience (Public Insult as I prefer to call it now, still chickening out at Abusing the Public) and the translation work turns out to be a lot of fun; see</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>A 30 Year-After Near-Posthumous Note on Peter Handke's Public Insult @: </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.handketrans.scriptmania.com/about.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and then, no one wanting to do these plays in New York, a hippie troupe with friend and author (at Metamorphosis) Michael Locascio (just now deceased) returning from San Miguel de Allende, Mexico I troupe around from venue to venue that I find for us, and thus the translations become well honed and I have my first experience of audience reactions to these plays. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Then Kaspar is added to the Sprechstuecke. I work on all of these with Herbert Berghof and E.G. Marshall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._G._Marshall</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>at the HB Studio, http://hbstudio.org/</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>but it doesn’t lead to anything anywhere since Herbert & Uta live in a world unto themselves. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The next time I see Handke is in 1969 in Berlin, to discuss my Kaspar translation, and Der Hausierer.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/der_hausierer-peter_handke_38459.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke is living in the Uhland Strasse, an area I know quite well from the Berlin semester of my Junior Year abroad (I lived at the corner of Fasanen & Kant in one room of the two room apartment of a redhead medical student and her Hungarian sheepdog with whom I’d play “catch” the tennis ball that I kept throwing against the wall of my room in amazement that this springy creature could actually see anything through its shock of sheep’s wool). According to Adorno (from whose work I was gathering myself an Adorno Reader, again with dear Susan’s blessing of the promise of an introduction) Handke resides in a prince’s apartment, which primes me for princely expection, and not a dank, barely lighted space filled with stacks upon stacks of newspapers. Handke’s near instantaneous suggestion to go somewhere outdoors is most welcome. Prior to leaving, however, I am shown his newborn, Amina, maybe half a year old - something that puzzles me just a tad, since the presentation of newborns is something that to my way of thinking is generally left to mothers. (vide again http://www.van.at/lesen/set01/roloff01.htm </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> where I am being punished by not being shown the apparently and surprisingly retrieved runaway Libgart who, so I had assumed, on the phone, to be Handke’s secretary! - not shown because I have outplayed him at Tarok!) </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I happen to adore babies (unless too screechy) and most likely made all kinds of goo-goo sounds during eye contact, and am I ever glad I did: vide Kindergeschichte and Handke taking umbrage at the Berlin revolutionaries who had come to proseletize him who expressed no interest in babies. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>What I recall from the time at the outdoor spot on the Ku-Damm is Handke expressing the wish that especially the beginning of Kaspar the openings sentence “I want to be like somebody else once was” be as abstract as possible, and revealing, to heartfelt chagrin, that Der Hausierer was chockful of quotes from American detective stories & taken from their German translation. The idea of tracking down their originals! I was not going to translate them straight! I even failed to ask Handke if he knew whence in each translated book they derived... maybe he would have recalled and that would have done the trick; thus, Goalie’s Anxiety at the Penalty Kick became the first Handke novel in English, a far simpler book. Hausierer, still a wonderful book to my way of thinking, Virginia Woolfe like in its delicacy, still strikes me as “the new Kafka’s” wonderful literary way of playing with anxeity, and stilling it.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Subsequent to the 1969 Berlin meeting there follows the so eventful 1971 N.Y.visit and the threesome’s assuming that I as Suhrkamp agent am their second home away from home, the first being the Austrian cultural center, somewhere in the East 50ties I think along whose balustrade and staircase Libgart plays a ravishingly enticing Ride Across Lake Constance. However, it becomes apparent that Handke is not so much married to Libgart but to Freddie Koleritsch, the two being engaged in literary theory talk, and if I had been clued into their terminology I might have become equally involved, for there were few matters I kept thinking on as consistently as the theory of the novel ever since reading Henry James prefaces </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.henryjames.org.uk/prefaces/ </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> Handke was anything but happy with Schulz’s premiere of Self-Accusation & My Foot My Tutor, at Robert Kalfin’s Chelsea Theater playing at Brooklhn Academy of Music (“Just as well that this was done in Brooklyn,”), but wanted to talk to the director, whom, during the cab ride back to Manhattan, he describes as “very dark” or, at my interjection, “at least very German." - I’d had no hint of anything of the kind, except perhaps I ought to have taken his courting of me more seriously, a girlfriend, the very actress (my one and only actress!) for whom I had left my wife, mentioned that Schulz would shout, as which German director didn’t. At Elaine’s</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine's</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>the Freddie/ Peter couple resumed their intense devotion to each other which left Libgart and me to our devices which quickly involved a lot of hanky panky under the table cloth. On leaving and Handke taking a photo of us three, my right hand caressing Libgart’s ass, and just the way she took my hand and moved it to her waist tells me what a clever lover she would be. It was evident that this smashing girl had not been loved for years. As an incompetent roue, however, I failed to write “Zum Friseur” and my telephone # on the inside of one of Elaine’s big wide yellow matchbooks! but wanted to walk opportunistically home to the Algonquin Hotel to which Handke had transferred after finding the Austrian-designated digs not to his liking. Handke the walker however was exhausted and wanted to take a cab. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Just imagine the conversation </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>“Ist da beim Friseur?”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>“Ja, Sonderangebot bei Schamhaaren heute.”<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> And what if Libgart, after a good loving, had not wanted to return to the man she would flee in a few months?</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-trivia.blogspot.com/2011/10/peymann-re-handke-libgart-schwartz.html </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and Handke had starts to have his breakdown for his wife leaving him already at that time? No, SHORT LETTER LONG FAREWELL, impossible all around complications. A true Ride Across Lake Constance moment! Barely averted disaster!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>We now come to the moment were Peter Handke - the guests, including my flaxen-haired girlfriend Renate have flown the roost - returns to the world of the living from his involvement/ in my record player juke box. And his first words are?</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Addressed to me.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>“Du bist ja schwul!” ( You’re gay. )</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I have just dwelled on the sight of Handke squatting by my record player “just like a woman” and recalling his being called “Maedchen” in Princeton, and, perhaps some kind of unconscious communication prodeeds to return the compliment.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Fighting words under certain circumstances. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Not only that of course, but the kind of gaucherie that only a socially inept idiot would commit.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Within the span of a few minutes the kind of behavior that can get you tossed out of a room!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I happen to be aware that at certain moments, say when I am holding a cigarette, I do so like my mother, who was the first person I ever saw smoke; the only person, no matter how rarely we saw each other, I would listen to as a child. The Volksschule SS teacher who had slapped me for saluting Hitler’s photo with the wrong arm objected to my cleaning the lint out of the corners of my eyes “just like a woman.” - I ought of course have corrected him, and said: “Just like my mother.” But I didn’t think there was anything wrong with that. I felt fairly secure in my love of making love to beautiful women. A few men had made passes at me, but none of my gay friends, it created a real problem the one time it did at camp. Later on in life, that is now, I sometimes think that there was one male friend I could have made love to, if that would have persuaded him not to join a Sufi sect where folks lifted rocks in their heads; that is, Michael Lebeck who with that act ended a promising career as a publisher and translator and poet. However, even that is entirely speculative, and only shows that I loved him, since I never had the opportunity or choice, and Michael’s departure into the world of mental rocklifters greeted me upon my return from Europe, and I had not had the faintest.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Meanwhile clever Libgart knew the way out of the awkward moment by pointing to herself and saying “Michael and I would tear each other’s clothes off if you and Kolleritsch were not around.”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>No, Libgart did not need to mention anything of the kind. She pointed to the just departed </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Renate as an obvious love interest of mine. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>True, not just a love interest but one that made me fiendishly jealous at the slightest provocation, which just proves the point that extreme jealousy means that the jealous one, me in this instance, is the one who cannot trust the strength of his attachment, and is liable, as was I, to bed Libgart, and even run off with her if I, say, had the money, and forget all about Renate, the best of the post marriage girlfriends just about, at least an equal if not superior, and the mistake of succumbing to Siegfried Unseld’s imprecations and becoming the Suhrkamp agent in New York.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/unseld-chronik.html <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Libgart’s so pointing seemed to do the trick. However, what she was also pointing out was that Handke had remained entirely oblivious of her and mine if only emotional and potentially physical involvement. Yet... and yet if we read Short Letter Long Farewell and read it autobiographically, the German writer has a different awareness that his wife is furious at him, as Libgart was at Handke to the extent that she would flee to Peymann shortly after. And as would the second wife, Sophie Semin, flee the “cold salamander” about the time of the production of the great VOYAGE BY DUGOUT in 1994.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-trivia.blogspot.com/2011/10/peymann-re-handke-libgart-schwartz.html </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-watch.blogspot.com/2010/11/excursus-ny-spring-1971-austrian.htmlf</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>where he confesses - the interview derives from the mid-80s - that he still suffered from “occasional autistic episodes.” <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Unlikely as it is that Handke self-diagnosed certain of his states of mind in that fashion (perhaps the psychotherapeutician he saw during his first Paris years - 1972-79 - did, see Weight of the World</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/node/4</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/das_gewicht_der_welt-peter_handke_37000.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.zeit.de/1977/38/das-gewicht-der-welt (has quotations)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>- and what he means by autistic episodes may become clearer as I proceed - and crude as the categories autism and autistic episodes are, at the very least they provide entry into understanding of what transpires. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>If Handke is autistic it certainly would be on the Asperger’s direction of the syndrome’s continuum (2), not that that either helps very much but hints at his unusually high intellectual abilities simultaneous with I would say former, once socially inept, gauche behavior, what his deceased antagonist Reichs-Ranicki used to call “tollpatschig.” - Kaspar sure was tollpatchig, too! - However, autism is not “episodic,” it is a permanent condition that can be alleviated, behavioristically. Handke strikes me as rather different now, in many ways, than he was in the 70s in Paris, which however, it appears does not mean that what I think he means by “autistic episodes” have disappeared.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Without using categories of any kind, or at least of that kind, let me take a different tack.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> I think it has become evident, and we might agree, even those who only know his texts, that Handke has the nose of a bloodhound, and - despite periodic variations in color perception (L.St.V.) - has the microscopic vision of an eagle (“the moon is one degree slighter now”), the sensitivity of a porpoise, and the hearing of a bat and, as the “restaurateur” of Nomansbay - who keeps going broke while serving the best word salad in the world (a part object if ever there was say my “object relations friends!) evidently has the taste buds of the finickiest of cats, all of which can produce extraordinary sensory overload unless you have the requisite buffer (processor), which is where the problem may reside; also for psychotic seizures of the kind that he calls “wishes to run amok.” The once nausea prone Handke comes to mind! (“Nausea of the eyeballs!” anyone?) Surfeit, the Handke who is so nauseated by the bodies of his fellow students when he starts to attend boarding school that he seeks refuge in the shit house - and, it appears, very much likes the smell of his own shit!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke even now wants to run amok</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.zeit.de/2014/39/peter-handke-dichter-lebenszorn</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>(when in fact a lot of people are doing so! and he no longer needs to worry about how few it is that are!) and not just when he is psychically severely wounded as he was in the early 70s with a mother’s suicide and a wife disparu. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The only “rational" reason for lifelong rage can be found in Handke’s childhood decade-long exposure to violent drunken primal scenes, plus the example of the violent stepfather whose violence went punished.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/09/peter-hhandke-wounded-love-child.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke as a self-described “Muttersoehnchen” (mama’s boy) uniquely lacks a significant father figure until he acquires one for himself in the form of grandfather Sivec, during the writing of The Repetition in the mid-80s. - <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke is indeed incredibly fortunate to have found literature as his salvation, otherwise he’d be locked up for life! Or, like “Albin” of WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES, released from prison, this ex-goalkeep construction worker continues to play sadistic tricks! What I am excluding are genetic matters. The psychological circumstances of Handke’s childhood suffice as explanations. Thus his feeling like an idiot or affinity with idiots may not just be a “feeling of estrangement” from the the mass of people, of feeling like anoter, of feeling equally dumbfounded and out of it as a street idiot appears to be, but may be related to the persistence of Handke’s wish to run amok. As a theme “running amok” crops up first in the Nonsense & Happiness poems and the stormy period that produced them </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/06/fugueing-section-from-part-ii-of-psycho.html</b></span></span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>yet it recurs in VOYAGE BY DUGOUT (in the form of the “ultra madman” - mad cause of the madness of the war!) and, to my great surprise, crops up in this recent aforementioned interview. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.zeit.de/2014/39/peter-handke-dichter-lebenszorn</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Handke is furious at the sheeples/ oxen for their patience with “the state of things.”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>His knowledge of Marx’s concept of the “lethargy of history” does not appear to suffice - I am assuming that someone who knows the concept of “use value” as his Bankieress does in SIERRA DEL GREDOS and that the person who wrote THEY ARE DYING OUT in the 70s has not forgotten his Marx altogether - here the writer of GEDICHT AN DIE DAUER, an arch-conservative, statement if ever there was one, comes on like the revolutionary he refused to be in the 60s! <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>After completing that unusually objective and well-rounded novel KALI (SALTWORKS)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/kali-peter_handke_41877.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> Handke wonders out loud how it is that things actually continue to work. Indeed, the apprehension that at any moment they might stop working altogether persists, and that the “humbug” of Nonsense might burst forth. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Thus the presumption that the newest manifestation and realization of the classical impulse might be what in Germanistik used to be referred to as “geläutert” (refined, purified) appears not to be the case. He’s as passionate and furious as he was as a kid, this won’t be an instance, if there ever really was one, of an old soldier fading away. This is the same Handke who apparently lives on the knife’s edge of psychosis, who is violence prone, who hits his two year old when she screams while his basement is flooding, who has been violent to women; and who in Goalie’s Anxiety at the Penalty Kick has his protagonist Bloch strangle the girl he picked up the night before and does so during a psychotic anger attack where he sees the water bubbling on the hot plate like a swarm of ants: has there ever been a better metaphor for the onset of a psychotic episode, for apparently unmotivated murder? -</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>But be all that as it may, let me describe two or three contradictory and two near simultaneous instances of very odd behavior by the “Idiot from Griffen.” (The allusion for those who are unfamiliar with Sartre’s work is with his book about Flaubert: “L’idiot de Famille.” https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Idiot_de_la_famille)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The year is 1971.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Austria sends the “Kultur Paket” Handke, Kolleritch (of Stadtpark Forum Graz fame) & Libgart Schwarz, a successful actress, married to Handke, to the USA, first to New York, then all over the U/S of A. We all come to know of that trip via Handke’s novel A SHORT LETTER LONG FAREWELL, where Kolleritsch appears as the “Austrian Dramaturg”, Libgart is the “femme disparu” who instills fear in the German writer.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I happen to be the translator of Handke’s early plays - by 1971 however I am also the Suhrkamp agent in New York, recently divorced from my first wife, involved in my second post divorce affair, and my apartment quickly turns into the threesome’s home away from home. The arrival of the Kulturpaket coincides with the official premiere of the first Handke plays in the U.S.A. (2). I have arranged a small party at my apartment at 55th and Sixth Avenue, to which I have invited the first American critics who express themselves favorably (even before they see productions) about Handke’s work, Kaspar & Other Plays, the drama critic Richard Gilman & film critic Stanley Kaufman. Handke, Gilman, Kaufman & I form a foursome that is discussing... I wish I could remember precisely what the conversation concerned at the moment to which I am about to come. The director of the play Wieland Schulz, whom Handke had described as “very dark” on meeting for a few minutes subsequent to the premiere is standing</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2013/08/wieland-schulz-keil-hunting-socieity.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> near the window, my terrific girlfriend Renate Karlin, a recently divorced mother of two young kids, a professor of Art at Sarah Lawrence, may be engaged in conversation with Libgart, I don’t know if I invited anyone from Farrar, Straus who did not show up at that premiere or any other, I may have asked Herbert Berghof and E.G. Marshal (3)... and I ought to have but they are not present.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> I think Dick Gilman (who also had seen as yet unpublished translations of mine, say of Ride Across Lake Constance) might have been inquiring about Wittgenstein (Dick and I had a life-long unsettled running argument to the effect that I felt it was irrelevant that Handke had used Wittgenesteinian interrogational methods in the play, legal to and fro would have done for the Jesuitical Socratic deconstruction too, and Dick that Wittgenstein was essential).<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>During the discussion Handke mid-someone’s sentence peels off, really like a fighter plane... to my left and squats down by my record player, which is on a bottom bookshelf and in a corner, and I think puts on a Beatles record, and squats in such a way that I can’t help the thought “just like a woman” flit through my head. You will find an analogous photo here, where Handke is sorting through some photos.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://plus.googlecom/photos/106505819654688893791/albums/5307894220077867457</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and others were he is gesticulating where he appears to look thoroughly effeminate. (also lots where he appears to look determinately male!)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Something had evidently become too much, or too stupid. Instead of fleeing to the shithouse Handke sticks his head into the nearest accessible musical envelope.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The remaining threesome look at each other, Gilman and Kaufman leave shortly after.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Since I am so incredibly prescient I realized right there and then that I am beholding the future author of The Assaying of the Jukebox </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/versuch_ueber_die_jukebox-peter_handke_40288.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>enter as close to a jukebox as he could - actually I only happen to show one jukebox to Handke, it was the great one at Barnabus Rex when Andreas “Ace” Nowara was the head bartender during the mid-70s (on Duane Street, between Hudson & West Broadway), a jukebox that traveled with Ace to his other venues, Mickey’s at Greenwich & Warren, and then to The Raccoon Lodge, at Warren and West Broadway. That visit is memorialized in Die Geschichte des Bleistift’s </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/die_geschichte_des_bleistifts-peter_handke_37649.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>where Handke notes that he observed someone (me) who was as playful as he was serious: I was playing pool while Handke and Michael Brodsky conversed. And something else transpired between Handke and me to which I will come later. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>What I never forget about that early evening was the broad smile of delight on “Ace’s” face when he was introduced to Handke: Ace had been a drama student under Carl Weber at NYU and thus knew Handke’s plays that Weber had directed, but had a nitely stint as the maestro of one of the great downtown venues that promised unending nightly drama- & comedylets </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=barnabus+rex+roloff</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and ex-nearly wife Laurie Spiegel fainting as she entered Barney’s and beheld me and Handke, and Tim Burns, the Aussie sheepfarmer Maoist, then carrying her home the half block to the loading dock of what had been also my loft. Anyhow, Laurie, fainting, not wanting to know, in no position to throw two by fours!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>No, I was was not in the least prescient, I knew no such thing, although after translating Handke’s early plays and working on their productions and giving serious thought to translating the novel Der Hausierer it dawned on me that I was encountering A LIVING GENIUS, not just one of those embalmed by literary history. Thus, the awareness that whoever you are in touch with is an other, of whatever kind, there was the added awareness that this Handke other was also of another, and higher order, a realization that introduced puzzlement that has not ceased. And as little as I conceived of someone writing something like JUKEBOX was I yet, but at least dimly, aware that Handke in a most unusual fashion was seeking to transform literature into something approximating music, as I then found it eventually appropriate to think of him at least as much as a composer as a writer. Formalism concentrates, which is why it impacts.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>What now follows, with the guests departed, is Handke resurfacing as it were “out of his juke box” immersion and committing the kind of gaucherie that might be typical of an autist as he insults his host, me, while also manifesting the kind of extraordinary UNawareness that seems improbable in light of the afore-enumerated sensitivities. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>=III-A=</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Upon the threesome’s return from their 21 dates in 28 days marathon sprint, a Gewalt Tour, the Austrian threesome promptly shows up at their home away from home. They didn’t so much make a trip report, Short Letter Long Farewell I guess would be it, the first thing they do was ask if I could guess who had flown with them to Atlanta, and keep insisting until I threw up my hands in despair, “How in God’s name”, whereupon they fess up: “Muhammed Ali/ Cassius Clay” and they’d got themselves an autograph! Now I realize more than then what kids they were! The second thing I recall happening is that Kolleritsch was having a tachycardia and lay down on my once marriage bed; Peter, energized, asks for the nearest store for international newspapers and magazine - lucky he had Rizzoli’s and the St. Regis within a few blocks; and Libgart decides to rest on the day bed in my studio, I managed to withstand temptation as I </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>liebaeugelt her: this is not the occasion for a quickie. Yet it was not long before one of the males finally seems to notice something. “Libgart, du bist so anders!” says Kolleritsch and I don’t recall Libart’s reply if any. The reason I bring up the sexual tension between Libgart and me a second time is how Handke nonetheless apprehended some of her unhappiness and fury at her insulting husband who was seen going off with other women during this trip (say, at the Austrian shindig at U.C. Riverside) and how this entered, thematically and structurally in such a literary way - girl & gun, a la Farewell my Lovely - into A SHORT LETTER LONG FAREWELL. A shame that a philanderer par excellence like Handke, also besieged of course by girls what with “post pill heaven” upon us all (very much a la his DON JUAN), then can’t write an honest book of some kind, be it novel or account, about how distraught they then become if the woman, the mother-ship to which they keep returning after bedding other beauties, then says she has had it, and in Libgart’s case flees “the cold salamander.” This event, not only in Handke’s case, then becomes “the worst thing that ever happened to me,” and becomes such an insult to the system, in Handkes’s case coinciding with his mother’s suicide, that his panic attacks land him in a Paris hospital. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/06/fugueing-section-from-part-ii-of-psycho.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Poor Baby!</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I find no realization at that time that Handke connects his insulting behavior to the wife’s decision to split, which doesn’t mean that the notebooks are devoid of it. The like will happen with the second marriage when Sophie Semin splits at the first opportunity - her role in Peymann’s production of VOYAGE BY DUGOUT in 1999 - to have an affair with a fellow cast member. Anything for a little warmth after living with the salamander who of course, as usual, was sleeping around; that is, with everyone but the wife, this time though I at least have no evidence of a major fuguing event. By the time of the 2007 MORAVIAN NIGHT - which contains a wonderfully secret theme of true love found in comparatively old age, and all kinds of accurate assessment of what dangers women can present to an author (Hear, hear!!!) who wants to write and nothing but write - Handke has evidently figured out that it is possible to separate living and working quarters.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>This is the sort of stuff that is missing from Herwig’s also in other ways yet by no means entirely useless biography. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2010/12/full-length-review-of-herwigs-handke.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Is Handke’s kind of obliviousness idiotic, to re-iterate the theme of this focus? Is it idiotic to need to take recourse to literary models in a presentation, or impressions? Only from the point of view of the non-literary. For them Handke is a perfect ass in a world of “Midsummer Nigth Dreams.”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>He might have a split is an idea that occurs.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The fact that at that time I would have torn Libgart’s clothes off signified that I did not regard Handke a friend; for, as compared to most heterosexual male friends, most of whom hounddogged whatever pretty woman I was with, going back to the first girlfriends during the last two years of highschoool (Oakwood Friends, outside Poughkeepsie) I never houndogged not even when a friend’s affair indicated she wanted to bed me as well. The friendship with the man was always more important, my sensitive Oedipal antannae, my non-Alpha male being that knew to defer, knew to a high degree of certainty that anything of the kind spelled trouble; even becoming involved with a male friend’s ex of whatever kind was a no no. And I continue to be puzzled at myself why in this instance I would have thrown all apprehensions to the wind. Was Libgart that rasant? Apparently so, it must have been the way she decended the staircase at the Austrian Institute’s house. And despite the fact that I had a teriffic girlfriend relationship with which I would ruin through fits of unaccustomed insane jealousy. Perhaps it was the by-product of breaking out of a marriage that had been good for our work, but otherwise stultifying. Moreover, I tended to be real faithful unless the wench and I were apart for an extended period of time, out of fear but also out of not wanting to hurt. "Kind kind kind" was James advice that I adopted until it became impossible to maintain. And the very brief obsession with Libgart preceded Handke’s insult (see anon), so it wasn’t payback that enticed me. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>What if Libgart had not wanted to return to Handke after passionate love making? Suhrkamp agent absconds with Suhrkamp authors wife. Even that eventuality had not been considered no matter that I realized that Handke probably hadn’t fucked Libgart for years, nor did I dwell on the why of that. And I don’t think it was “her little lyricism” that Handke noted in Weight of the World objecting to! Or was it? Handke’s attitude toward language seemed to be of over-riding concern.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>One matter seems certain: Handke, the fellow who couldn’t handle that one of his Berlin lovers had a second lover, would not have been happy being cuckolded. Yet who knows how oblivious the extraordinary seismograph really was, I say again, since he registered something on a literary wave length. WEIGHT, I believe, tell us nothing on the subject, and it becomes more heavily edited as it is republished. The matter is not raised in its reports of Handke going to a Paris psychotherapist. There Handke agrees with the analyst’s observation of his lack of emotion. That certainly stops entirely, Handke becomes nearly too warm by the time of WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES! Perhaps the notebooks will be, are more revealing. Yet there are indications that Handke can split, be a divided being - a matter I will address anon, although what someone as unusual as Handke splitting signifies even speculation will not entertain, not that Handke in many matters cannot also be a perfectly ordinary idiot. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>One telling event of an entirely different kind occurred subsequent to his meeting Joachim Neugroeschel whose mother sought to get her son to become a Handke translator. I happened to know Joachim well, but eventually I found him to be one of the most hideous of many hideous people I encountered in that world in New York. Initially I helped look over his Celan translations that he did for Dutton while I was the Suhrkamp agent. I even asked him to read with me during my Goethe House gig reading my INNERWORLD translations. I sort of took him under my wing, since he was talented, thinking I would not be deterred by the fact that he had a truly hideously ugly face! I used him multiply as publisher at Urizen Books, I managed to get him the PEN translatio prize. However, he then wanted 50 % of the mass paper back income, Urizen's one and only, of his translation of Bataille’s STORY OF THE EYE. Of course this was a contractually uncalled for demand, but once he did not get what he wanted all kinds of ill things were said by him and his agent, and it turned out had been long before. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Peter, after talking briefly to Joachim, returned nearly wretching because he found him physiognomically, which I had decided to ignore, so nauseating. There would be a second instance several years later when I introduced Peter to Jerry Leiber who and his partner Michael Stoller and Carl Weber, as the director, and I as translator, were experimenting with the idea of shoe-horning some Leiber /Stoller songs into THEY ARE DYING OUT: Leiber/Stoller already had a half dozen songs from their abandoned INTERNATIONAL WRESTLING MATCH to fill that bill, but we needed a few more. That meeting at Rue Montmorency is famous for Handke’s statement “I don’t do Singspiel”, but also for his nausea at Leiber’s then wife Barbara Rose’s physiognomic ugliness once again the reason, and, as I would find out, existing in parallel with a nauseating character. Thus aesthic judgements, in Handke’s case - and I imagine Handke, as have I, has run into his share of the beautfully ugly - Roger Straus Jr.s’ brutishly ugly pockmarked face not being one of them - are not to be taken lightly. Again, I deciced to overlook. Handke took badly to that visage and manner of the culture vulture who adorned his crude being with the work of his great editors. I expect that Peter did not take a liking either to the fat thick rapacious lips of Schulz’s visage when he met him after the first premiere of his plays in this the U.S.A., in as much as these lips were visible through Schulz’s heavy camouflage beard, that has become fashionably trimmed in such as way as to truly instill fear: http://tinyurl.com/oyksopx</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>What was Handke’s sense of Milosevics, of Karadsic comes to mind again just now that his involvement in the defense of Serbia and Serbians made for yet another ugly event. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-yugo.blogspot.com/2014/09/yvind-bergs-attack-on-handke.html </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> Perhaps the notebooks will tell us. However, to presume that Handke was friends with either politician just because he trusts his own shnoozel more than whatever opinion of whatever programmed hideous journalist is perpetuated ad nauseam is all it is, the usual presumption by the already ill-disposed. It happens to matter not one iota how wrong or right Handke is or was in the matter of Yugoslavia, and I wish it hadn’t mattered 20 years go when this controversy started. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> III-B</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>By the time, in 1977, that I showed Handke my favorite JUKE BOX at pub Barnabus Rex </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=barnabus+rex+roloff</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>(second best, author Jim Stratton’s Puffy’s</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://tinyurl.com/nto5vtd </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://puffystavernnyc.com/gallery</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>remained unshown to him) much had transpired between the two of us, we had both had eventful half a decade under our belts. Ride Across Lake Constance and Kaspar (an Obie) had both been done at major venues in New York, Goalie, Short Letter Long Farewell & Sorrow Beyond Dreams, A Moment of True Feeling, Innerworld of the Outerworld of the Innerworld, Nonsense & Happiness had been successfully received in the U.S. Near mass paperback editions, by Avon & Colliers, entitled Two by Handke & Three by Handke were imminent. F.S.G. was holding off with the second volume of Handke play translations of mine until there would be a production of They Are Dying Out and I was having problems finding a theater for it. (Bob Kalfin of the Chelsea Theater, who had been the producer of Kaspar and of the initial My Foot My Tutor & Self-Accusation, and it appears a professional avant-gardist, rejected Dying for being topical, unable it appears to see beyond surface topicality to its deeper themes.)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2011/09/they-are-dying-out.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>I don't think I could have imagined that Farrar Straus, especially Roger Straus, would then proceed to mis-publish as badly as they did in the 80s. In the late 70s Handke had a fine editor in Nancy Meiselas, and I would have a fine one for the second collection of Handke play translations, whose name escapes me at present. He went on to become publisher at Scribners I recall.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Here a host of links discussing what transpired.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2010/07/catastrophic-handke-reception-in-united.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2009/07/farrar-straus-giroux.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2013/07/roger-straus-robert-giroux-jonathan.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2014/05/rogerstrausjonathangalassifarrarstraus.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2014/09/roloff-versus-farrar-straus.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>andke-discussion.blogspot.com/2009/12/letter-to-robert-silvers-ny-review-of.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2007/03/b-c-reverse-of-initial-posting-of-open.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> Handke had written himself out of, in as much as you ever can, the aftermath of his mother’s suicide and wife disparu and of his subsequent womanizing and affairs (most famously with Jean Moureau with whom he also become engaged in physical fights) with the chaste The Lefthanded Woman (1978 in the U.S.). Handke was in the U.S. I think 1977 was the second of three trips, 1976 the first, 1978 would be the decisive one, to apprehend Alaska for Langsame Heimkehr, the title text of the U.S. A Slow Homecoming, which also contains The Lesson of St. Victoire, and A Child’s Story. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>My life had been romantically adventurous since 1971, only in small part due to Mr. Handke, although I think passion would have made me take the route I took no matter his once interference in a relationship of mine that had succeeded three passionate shipwrecks and traveled, the relief of sanity setting in, under the aegis of something unique in my experience that I called “the great fondness” (The Leonard & Virginia Woolfe relationship was the fantasized model!), which however would be succeeded with the most passionate of all which would eventuate in the most stunning of all blowups, and Handke would actually witness one last hiccup of the blow-up that evening at B. Rex when Laurie Spiegel, entering the lively bar, caught sight of Handke, Michael Brodsky and me and promptly fainted (that is, entered a state of denial) and was carried home to what had been “our” loading dock in the sturdy arms of Aussie sheepfarmer son Maoist anarchist film maker Tim Burns, now a facebook friend and back fucking sheep! But I was already using a third, generally Michael Brodsky, to interpose between the two of us - I did not want to be alone with Handke any more, he spooked me personally, one particular moment, a matter I shall come to in due course; his genius initially spooked me, but I had got used to it: he was in some respects a superior being, I certainly did not have time to dwell on it further than that at the time. However, I was quite willing to go to bat for his work as I already had to at F.S.G. who, had it not been for Bob Giroux, would have passed on Handke as soon as I turned in my first set of translations, of Kaspar and Other Plays. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Prior to 1977 there had been visits whenever I was in Europe, as I was annually again as of 1973, of mine in the 70s to Rue Montmorency (see anon), and several Handke visits to New York. In 1975 I put him up in my apartment on the 25th floor of Independence Plaza because I had</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://tinyurl. com/o85eukl </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>moved, with composer Laurie Spiegel (my love of music now corporeal made me overlook the signs of profound disturbance and harridan to be as I dragged her out of her apartment on the upper East Side) into a raw 4,000 square feet loft, or my duration there, two years, too short for the walls to close in as they had and would at other times, and perhaps sufficiently spacious for them never to, on Duane Park. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke had Amina in tow, and when I checked on him the next day he’d flown the coop: “suicide apartment” was his judgement of a view all along down the Hudson to the Statue of Liberty and across to New Jersey and, of course, of the WTC. Indeed, if suicide was among your apprehensions, looking down to the cement 25 floors below might prove tempting or frightening. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Suicide is an important theme in the younger Handke - Libgart splits, he tosses a handful of sleeping pills down his gullet, but then spits them, suicide of course is the theme of A MOMENT OF TRUE FEELING, and why it was then not committed: he thinks of the child. He waylays the manuscript of THE REPETITION as he is about to mail it - if he had actually lost it he would have committed suicide he writes. (Amazing, at that point, in the mid-80s Handke is an established author and makes not a copy!) Anything untoward, including a not entirely suitable apartment and we have extreme reactions. As we now know, from himself but also via Malte Herwig’s bio Meister der Daemmerung, but could not have presumed, Handke as a kid was a kind of holy terror to the family which realized his talent and abetted it to their best ability. Even the hated stepfather Bruno Handke did! If there was a sound when young Handke practiced writing all hell would break lose. Handke quite wonderfully describes what the “prodigal son” was like as a child in WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES, he used to always get his way. He was a lousy loser at anything! (And still was in 1980) It’s a delight to read but not to have been a participant of. VILLAGES is by far the most self-reveleratory all around of his works: anyone who can write a work like that has no need of an autobiography, he understands </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>the various aspects of his personality, controlling each of those aspects is another matter or keeping them in tandem. The point is not only that we have only one muffler as it were, but only one major focus for awareness, no matter that one can train one’s peripheral vision. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Meanwhile Handke’s own self-awareness, as of MORAVIAN NIGHT, extends to calling himself a “Mutter Soehnchen”, mama’s boy, indeed those favored sons! - Class seems to have surprisingly little to do with how that love infusion lasts. Yet by MORAVIAN NIGHT and a few works earlier, not only Handke’s love of writing, but other forms of love manifest themselves, in quite astonishing ways. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Not that Independence Plaza was a modernistically frightening as he found La Defense to be, or the WTC in full view at that time. For me this apartment, quickly handed on to author Wolfgang Schivelbusch, was never more than temporary abode while the once molasses storage loft was made habitable - a toilet, a stove, electricity is all that took, Laurie a camper too! - but chiefly to be near the office of the firm, Urizen Books, that I had started with two partners in Spring 1975. Handke as well as Enzensberger contributed, respectively, Nonsense & Happiness and Mausoleum, books of poetry, to that occasion. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2011/04/short-unhappy-life-of-urizen-books.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The reaction to the apartment may seem a tad extreme, but you could not call it idiotic, odd yes, but every oddity is not idiotic. Why Handke feels an affinity to idiots remains a puzzle unless his awareness of his being so different suffices, or that he projects his own being dumbfounded with the ways of the world unto the truly dumb! (I recall an evening, in say 1954, on the all-purpose dance floor gym Quaker assembly hall at Oakwood that I would never fit in, neither be an American nor German, a bit of a painful realization at the time, but one that I have had no choice but to become accustomed to.) “Where was he?” was of course the thought that flashed through my mind when I found the apartment vacated. - At the Algonquin, of course, same writer’s hostel he moved into during his 1971 visit when the Austrian choice had proved untoward, and Fitzgerald struck him as a possible model for a writer. And the decisive meeting with him and J. that spooked me would transpire there, over drinks; had already transpired by the time I took him to my Juke Joint in 1977.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Driving Handke (evidently considering living near New York) around some Long Island suburbs I could not help but notice how nearly deadly quiet that six or seven year Amina was emitting. A Child’s Story like other strictly auto-biographical books that do a lot of manicuring of the precious self-image cannot be trusted. I was not going to say anything unless Handke actually hit Amina (or let her soil her pants when she wanted to go potty!) but the women who had spoken to him about his girl rearing efforts were to be taken seriously even if they “spoke the dog language” of the therapeutic. By the appearance at least of Lucie in the Woods with the Thingamajig, as I translate its German title, Handke had become a better dad to his second daughter, Laocadie, even though he, in this instance, was far less responsible for her upbringing than he had been in the instance of Amina - Libgart had really fled, Amina appears to have been with her only during summers. But there is something there I am missing, and I don’t think it is concealed in the official cover story that “Libgart Schwartz has decided to resume her career as an actress” - which she had never abandoned. Handke, in the 80s expressed considerable guilt at his educational methods, at least he did to chatterbox Erich Wolfgang Skwara, several of whose novels I translated for Ariadne, Plague in Siena with special delight. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>During the 1971 trip to the U.S.A. Amina was with her grandmother in Griffen! who if I am to believe what I read chiefly committed suidice because she was in despair at the prospect of the return of husband Bruno Handke from a tubercolosis home. No one in Griffen appears to have given separation or divorce a thought, although the Slovenian Sivec clan appears to have detested that dreadful wife-beating drunkard. (vide Sorrow Beyond Dreams). </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke’s moving to Kronstadt or is it Kronenberg outside Frankfurt, after he left Berlin in the late 60s, looking for a possible quiet suburban spot to be “nothing but a writer,” gives early evidence of withdrawal from distracting city ways. At one point Handke was so serious about moving to New York that I trouped to all the French-American schools for young girls - he and Amina by that time were in Paris and he was thinking ahead. I suspect that the months spent in the Hotel Adams in late 1978-79 coming a cropper while writing the title text of A Slow Homecoming proved to him the rightness of the decision not to become an exile writer in Los Unidos Estados Norte and its coldest and hardest manifestation of cut-throat capitalism as he once noted to me in a single sentence while we were leaning over the ballustrade of the fourth floor roof of my second loft, at 65 West Broadway, in late fall 1978. “Boy things are hard here.” is how one might put what he, just a writer walker, had noticed, chiefly on the upper East Side. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>By the end of the 1976 Long Island expedition we sat in my MGB by Jamaica Bay near Kennedy airport and watched a thunderstorm subside over Manhattan. A Pastoral Symphone moment if ever there was one.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>At the airport itself if I didn’t see Urizen’s major embarrassment, its third partner, Leo Feldsberg, who had run after me to invest $ 100,000 in this socialisticaly oriented firm, where I ought to have been smart enough to extract a least a million from his 40 derived from the peon-exerted profits of Fructo, his Columbian fruitpacking firm. Actually, it then turned out, Leo was at least in part responsible for the London Lake Constance production, son of a Vienese wine merchant whose ambition had been to become a producer, he lived outside Kali, Columbia on a hill so I found out with two armed guards on duty at all times of day, with one of the great collections of recorded operas, and on Easter is supposed to have giggled at the Christians on their knees ascending the hill opposite, with its cross. The only book that Urizen published that he cared for was Rudolf Augstein’s Jesus Son of Man. If I’d had a politician in me I'd at least have tried to explain to this very dirty old man that, properly funded, Urizen might have an easier chance - he himself had translated $ 50,000 borrowed from a Danish diplomat in the mid-40 to start his venture, and hated losing a single dollar on a bet as though it was at least a $ 100. I just did not have that kind of relation to money. He somehow found out that Handke had been aboard his flight and then asked me why I hadn’t alerted him. I didn’t say anything, I didn’t even lie that I had had no idea that he was on the same flight; we had not made eye contact after all. In my heart there resides I think a diamentine purist, the very one that found such affinity with Pound these many years ago.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>There was yet one earlier expedition, this one without Amina but with Kesselman, the photographer who had taken the photo of the WTC, as shot across some landfill dunes (that became the ground for the downtown Financial Center and for the new Stuyvesant High), for the cover of NONSENSE & HAPPINESS - I was trying to reference Handke’s dislike of the Parisian La Defense - but all I recall of that trip is the sun sinking like a molten Graf Spee (famously sunk by the Brits in the mouth of a South American river during WW II) to the east of Staten Island, which means it must have been either late in fall or early in Spring since by late spring the sun sets over New Jersey, that is farther to the west, from that vantage point at Rockaway Beach. I think that trip was my idea, to show Handke where I had lived for several years prior to moving back into the city. I missed the anticipated “green flash” that is supposed to occur at the moment of final disappearance of the sun into oceans, and always wondered whether Handke registered the molten moment in his notebook that he kept making notes in, something that just about everyone who has spent time with Handke recalls.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>III-C </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>In one of his letters to Kolleritsch in their published correspondence Handke notes how pleasantly boring I am during my visits to his semi-basement apartment in the Rue Montmorency. If only I had been one of the Backfische that space-cadetted their way there from Austria! Actually, I a city walker too, found it rather boring not even to be served a glass of water after my trek from the Fifth Arrondissement to the Marais. Handke it appears has learned to be a good host since those days, was already the last time I saw him, in 1980 in Salzburg. In Paris, at Rue Montmorency, he can be said to have hauste as the German has it for a bachelor’s existence devoted to compulsive writing. If only he had brought out the chessboard - that period of the Fischer Spassky matches was the last time my chess game was up to snuff. All I recall are rather awkward silences that did not last long because Handke in short time would say he had to write, and if I didn’t want to come back another time. I didn’t. There was one day trip to the Bois de Boulogne together with the model for Keuschnig, the actual Austrian cultural attache in Paris, who had a daughter about the same age as Amina, a slight fellow who I think died young, an Esterhazy??? Handke, as I think I knew by then, had studied law so as to enter the Austrian Foreign Service as a culture officer, which would allow him time to write in the event that he could not make a living as a writer (which would have required considerable initial grooming on the Service’s part, for sure!) Far more foresightful in these matters than I who had entered that world during a seizure in Fairbanks in November 1960. (6)</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I have mentioned the afternoon that I introduced Jerry Leiber to Handke, who liked Leiber/ Stoller’s songs, especially the early work.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>One time there was an Austrian Backfisch present, which made matters even more awkward than usual. I didn’t stay long, during a phone call a day or so later Handke mentioned that he had exposed himself to her, and that she had blushed, sometime he said, he was “a bit diabolical.” I didn’t know much about self-exposure of that kind at that time and so said nothing, as I might have even if I had known as much as I do now. What puzzled me, though, was why he would tell? Did he want absolution? Was he boasting? As he may have in telling someone else that he once had had a threesome with two whores. It certainly sseems to be another way of “showing.” In reflecting back on how wild matters would become in “post pill paradise” New York, maybe I ought to have proposed to the Backfisch that she fuck both of us. Knowing Handke it would at least have drawn a laugh from him, and maybe fleeing on the Backfisch’s part. Girls of all kinds, space cadets all, were wandering at that time into men’s homes. They were post-hippie-girl girls, and slightly unmoored. Hippie girls were the best, and the best of the best were from California, and they were strapping, which is how surfer’s clap, that had originated in Vietnam, might also end up in Paris. If anyone profited from the sexual revolution gynecologists did.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>One of those visits, it must have been 1974, Handke gave me a copy of </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Als das Wünschen noch geholfen hat | Handke online </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/node/126</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and I started to translate the long poems that were then published as NONSENSE & HAPPINESS at the Luxembourg airport; as a poor small publisher I flew Air Icelandic, I took a liking to Luxembourg, to Keflavik, and to Icelandic sheep of all kinds! In the translation Handke took a particular liking to the word “humbug” for the “nonsense” that was bugging him in those poems. - I think it needs to be reiterated occasionally that literature is also a defense.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>I visited Handke at his ugly Gruenderzeit castle in Meudon only once (where Lefthanded Woman was filmed, and from whose viewpoint Paris and its rolling hills is described). Although I didn’t smoke inside such polished parquet floors, Handke smelled the Gitanes on me and mentioned that during filming, when everyone had smoked, so had he. His cinematographer later mentioned how particular he had been during the filming, which seems to have bothered her, his identification with the work. I must say the particular care that he wanted me to take while translating WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES was most welcome; and I understand that you need to be very insistent and determined as Handke has been all these years. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>During the filming he wrote me in New York and asked if I could get Randy Newman to set one of the poems in the book to music. He knew that Newman had apprenticed with Leiber/ Stoller,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Leiber_and_Mike_Stoller</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> and of course of my friendship with that pair. I got Newman’s agents address, translated the poem, and wrote the agent twice, as publisher of Urizen Books, but never had even a reply. Thinking about what kind of music Newman</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Newman</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b> might have set the poem to I, at least, envisioned something that diminished the importance of the overall theme of the pain involved in becoming independent in the way the Left-Handed Woman does, by taking a Randy Newman attitude to it. Literature as defense but in a very sophisticated manner. It becomes a characteristic of Handke’s. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Living in Meudon the Handke rabbit discovered a secret way to the Foret de Chaville, and minded it that when he decided to leave Salzburg in the mid 1980s; there’s a continuity there, in other words, between LEFT HANDED WOMAN + MY YEAR IN THE NOMAN’S BAY, also geographically. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>At that time in the late 70s I had yet another author in the Meudon/ Clamart area, Wilfred Burchett, the author of MOSQUITOES & ELEPHANTS,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>one of the books I was proudest to have published, also for the way the author came to write it, and of SOUTHERN AFRICA STANDS UP.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.amazon.com/Wilfred-G.-Burchett/e/B001HCUAGO </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>and so I also visited Wilfed and his darling Bulgarian wife, in company of a girlfriend who was spending a semester in Paris, but made sure, at that point, not to show her to Handke, or her, who liked his work and was youthfully promiscous, where he lived. I had learned my lesson that Handke was a rabbit. And am I ever glad I was careful, her looks were pretty much those of Handke’s inamorata to be, Marie Colbin.</b></span></span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>=IV-A=</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Situation Report</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>We shift back to Barnabus Rex & the announced scene. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>First of all, a brief description of B.Rex, aside the one on-line. The shoebox’s interior dimensions approximate 25 by 25 feet. Nearly six feet of that is reserved for the bar, on the far side as you enter, which leaves, say, 20 by 25, the center of which is occuppied by the 6 by 4 feet bar-pool table; to the left, as you enter, is a regular-sized juke box, the bar fronts at most 7 bar stools; that is, the pool table, on three sides, has aisles, only near the juke box is there a 10 by ten feet space and that is, chiefly, where people dance. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=barnabus+rex+roloff </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>We now come to the kind of concentrated moment that allows me to tie a lot of matters together... after several major divergences.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The bar crowds up after Handke, Brodksy and I enter, music sets in, as does dancing. I am playing pool, Handke and Brodsky are in the aisle between the bar and the pool table, as am I. I have lowered my head to line up a shot in the direction of the jukebox. Handke and Brodsky are standing right by me. At one point they also tried dancing and I noticed how they do so awkwardly, self-consciosly. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The bar is crowded, there is dancing; however, people still manage to play pool, no matter the racket and the vibrations... as B.Rex leans an inch or so further into the swamp land on which the entire area consisted not all that long ago.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>My head down, my eyes finding the sight line, pool stick ready to fire the cue ball... Handke leans over and whisphers into my ear: “If you ever need $ 10,000 dollar for Urizen Books, get in touch.”</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I make no reply, and I forget whether I made a good shot or not. But it is one of those crystaline moments that is as unexpected as lightning out of the blue.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Urizen probably was never far from my mind, but my worries about it weren’t written over my face that evening, I don’t think, recall, nor had I mentioned anything of the kind to Peter or to Michael Brodksy.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Brodsky was a Urizen author entirely through Peter’s doing. He had met Peter via Patricia Highsmith in Paris and Peter had told him to show his manuscripts to me. I have no idea whether Peter himself had seen them, although I suspect he must have. Brodsky arrives at the Urizen office, we chat a bit and he leaves behind a maroon leather satchel with five manuscripts. Curious since I respect Handke’s judgement I take a look at the first page of each of the manuscripts and realize: here is the real thing, a writer on the order of a Beckett. Urizen goes on to publish two Brodksy titles, Detour, which wins the Hemingway Prize, and Wedding Feast, a collection of three novellas. Brodsky, my intestines pick up the torture in his being; that is why I always preferred to spend time with journalists! </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Brodsky</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>It being 1977 Urizen has not yet published Detour over which I make special effort, typographically, cover by Michael Hafftka</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hafftka</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.hafftka.com/</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>the paper and the printer and binding.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I cannot explain to myself the basis of Handke’s sudden extraordinary generous offer, I suspect he was happy at the realization, as he notes in Geschichte des Bleistifts</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/node/121</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://www.suhrkamp.de/buecher/die_geschichte_des_bleistifts-peter_handke_37649.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>that I am both playful and serious, the quintessence of pool, and happiness in being in this space, in this crowd of young artists, not on the knowledge, I assume, that Urizen actually needs more like a hundred thousands dollars! However, he is not the only friend who offers or gives me ten thousand dollars at just about the same time, and out of the blue, two other friends, one the current girl fiend, chip in 10 each. I myself with the two other partners have just committed myself to introduce $ 50 k into the firm, as an expression of faith, but only have 20 k, ten of my own and ten from my father who is delighted that I have finally taken a turn toward business! I had intially got - when what was originally meant to be called Hyperion - was founded, one third of the firm, for my experience and the projects I brought with me. However, the initial $ 200,000 investment, from the two partners’ instruments, Oberon & Princeton, N.V. did not last long; had it not been for the anthology Sex Differences having been taken by six different book clubs and achieved a lot of course adoptations Urizen would have gone down at the end of year one. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2011/04/short-unhappy-life-of-urizen-books.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Not only have I committed myself to put in 50 K with only 20 to my name, but not long ago, prior to this evening, I had a call from Susan Sontag alerting me that Schulz’s funds derived from a firm called Vicland, that dubbed U.S. pornographic films into German, perhaps the very same films that Handke, as you then find out, went to see while becoming briefly monkish while writing LEFT HANDED WOMAN, and picking up a few experiences that would make for a couple of fine lines a few years hence in WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES. Moreover, I am having the definite suspicion that Handke’s estimate of Schulz (the passbook name) as very dark or at least very German is true in both respects. There is a partner called Victor (the Vic part of Vicland) Bertini whom I then notice becoming crazier by the year while Schulz does his financial wizardry, and, in retrospect, I am also seeing myself driven to drink.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2013/08/wieland-schulz-keil-hunting-socieity.html</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>As Handke, of course not just he, will note over the next several years I become more and more nervous.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The second major vector of the constellation of this moment is that the only reason Brodky is present is that he serves as an inbetween, a buffer, since I no longer like being with Handke on the one on one, if I can help it. Handke has begun to seriously spook me. In his way, I sense, he may be as dark as Schulz, although very differently so. Broksky, as mentioned, is a tortured being, his oily skin oozes psychic pain! He has a job with the athritis foundatation. Editing Detour page by page on Saturdays in his presence...</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The reason that Handke personally spooks me is not so much that he has sucessfully hound-dogged the “great fondness” whom I had asked to look him up on her way back from Africa (who provides invaluable information about chez Handke and what kind of rapist lover he is, how Amina is exposed to primal scenes and is of course violently jealous, etc. etc.), but that when Handke shows up in 1976 and, after leaving my suicide apartment in Independence Plaza, moves into the Algonquin, I turn into Sherlock Holmes, assume undercover mode, to try to find out what was going on, and ask the “great fondness” to join us for drinks, or took the great fondness, of whom I am still quite fond then even though I - for a time singing to myself “I have two lovers” - had broken off the romantic affiliation with the fondness for the sake of passion (which lasted only two years and who just fainted at the sight of me and Handke), but the break with the fondness I think would have happened, mr. handke or not interfering in our relationship; although I appreciate the bit of awakening Handke provides, that eventually leads to dis-enchantment with the fondness, many years hence. </b></span></span><br /><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="background-color: #fce5cd; white-space: pre;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Pause. </b></span></span><br /><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="background-color: #fce5cd; white-space: pre;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>At the Algonquin, over drinks, Handke seems barely to recogniz the great fondness, there isn’t a single erotic or other spark, that is what spooks me, this total indifference. I mean the two of them might have fallen head over heals in love and she would still have been the great fondness! J.s and my relationship was very different from one of my amour or lust fous. There was rather more than the usual concern, but also less of the posessiveness that goes with passion. The idea of gratuitous came to mind. J. seemed to be like one of his whores, like the cashier whom Bloch murders in GOALIE. The indifference was frighening, and that was what spooked me, here was a genius and a psychotic, potential murderer. (7) GOALIE aside its phenomenology, after all, is an instance of schizophrenic paranoia! And after what he had committed Handke still regarded me as a friend, as I continued to be and still am of most of his work. He is entirely oblivious so it seemed of what injury he caused me, he is split, and I am frightened of him. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>So that was the constellation of that moment,</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>all those matters coming together.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke keeps talking about his daimon - part of it is unadulturated pure sadism, but one aspect is psychosis, perhaps it is the world’s everyone’s psychosis, the part that wants to run amok. Yet, even though I had translated GOALIE, NONSENSE & HAPPINESS and had read WEIGHT and MOMENT OF TRUE FEELING and SORROW BEYOND DREAMS and had a sense that he had been through some kind of hell, I didnt appreciate, as I do now, what men and women do if their love abandons them, and Handke appears to be not that different but perfectly ordinary in that respect. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Matters might have turned out very differently if not for Handke’s taking possession of the “great fondness” and it apparently not mattering to him one bit, and my being spooked. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>We might in fact have become real friends now that I realized, at Barney’s, how much he liked a joint of that kind, and the life that implied. In 1978 I would have offered join me on my nightly jaunts - the bars, CBGS, the Mudd Club - “Because the Night” - after I stopped working around 10 or ll pm - as usual I had found yet another inamorata, but it was of a very light and mutually promiscuous kind as befitted the period and the terroir - and then Sorger would not have had to console himself with the Nachtportier in the lobby of the Hotel Adams.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>By his early thirties, though an amazing writer, Handke has also committed all the same delikte of both father figures. Like his actual father, Schoenherr, he has an illegitimate child, if we are to believe the account of his first girlfriend’s pregnacy, now a crone on the Island Krk where he wrote his first novel - and a magnificent section in MORAVIAN it is, too; he has been physically violent not only to women but to the first born that he knows, to Amina (what is odd in the Krk section in MORAVIAN is that it makes no mention of what happened to the child); he has hurt all those closest to him, if we are to believe what Vim Wenders told me, and which the Herwig biography appears to confirm. In other words: it is just as well that he spends so much time picking mushrooms and longing for a peace inside himself that is unlikely to arrive. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The saga ends with our coming too close at an extraordinary moment over the translation of WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES. </b></span></span><br /><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="background-color: #fce5cd; white-space: pre;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="background-color: #fce5cd; white-space: pre;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b> </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>=IV-B=</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>NEW YORK 1978</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b>Nothing unusually idiotic transpired during Handke’s period in New York to write Langsame Heimkehr, which provides the title A SLOW HOMECOMING to that English language collection. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>He came to the Urizen offices after he had returned from Alaska and left a green leather satchel for safe keeping while making another trip, to San Francisco and Colorado. Then he returned for good and installed himself in the Hotel Adams at the corner of 86th Str. East and Madison, an old stomping ground of mine when I had stayed with Frank Conroy’s mother on 86th Street, and which takes up the entire block between Madison and Fifth, the eastern edge of Central Park. As we now know from Handke’s diary accounts, it must be the first time, he had a kind of writer’s block initially getting beyond its opening sentence, which he had rehearsed for years, in the rhythmically unsatisfactory Mannheim translation - “Sorger had outlived several of those who had become close to him, he had ceased to long for anything, but often felt a selfless love of existence and at time a need for salvation so palpable that it weighed on his eyelids.” - I doubt that I could have helped in that respect at the time or ever, even if I had not kept him at arm’s length. However, since he was always writing in Paris and had proved a lousy host I left him to his own devices unless he called, which was two or three times.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Initially, there was an idyllic walk across the Brooklyn Bridge late evening with a fine dry snow falling, to have dinner at Michael Brodsky’s. During the walk Handke revealed that he was writing a book about Alaska, it was the first thing the suddenly mother hen had heard of that, and the idea frightened me, to write a book about Alaska after just a couple of visits of a few weeks each. It turned out he had read McPhee’s big book about Alaska, but wanted no Alaska stories of mine, he was full up, and I seem to have appreciated that. He didn’t recall that it had been I who had written him years ago, when he inquired about American winters, that if he wanted something really different, Alaska was it. We had dinner I think twice more, each time with Brosky as my protective interposer, at Elaine’s, my once eatery away from home, which I visited rarely since moving downtown to Tribeca with the start of Urizen Books in 1975. One time I picked him up at his room at the Adam’s and appreciated its view of Central Park. Nancy Meiselas, his editor at Farrar, Straus at the time, mentioned how Handke had told her before he left after I don’t know how long he really stayed - three months? - that he had fucked up Homecoming. He didn’t mention anything of the kind to me, or show me the manuscript which appears to have been planned to be a much grander one than what we have, three four chapters, one in Alaska, the other in San Francisco, the third in Colorado where, at Handke’s visit, he found an Austrian friend, a skier had died - I recall him being rather downcast at his arrival back in New York to pick up the green satchel..I might have inquired why, but I did not. In San Francisco Handke, who was with Wenders, was observed to have cussed an audience, at least according to future friend and witness John McVey. As long as Handke is cussin’ & shoutin’, and “banging the big bass drum” (a la “Saved”) as he did again recently in the Zeit interview, he is full of living oats, and I think it ought to be taken as a sign of life. To see him despondent on his return from the West Coast was unusual, and if we’d been close I might have inquired. The New York section of Homecoming - the text has a NY denoument - has a scene where Sorger is talking to the nightman at the hotel where he is staying - Handke appears to have been lonely, I know he saw Kurt Bernheim, my darling successor as Suhrkamp agent, a few times. If he had wanted he could have of course met any American writer he wanted, either through me, Kurt or Farrar, Straus. I have no idea whether he met anyone aside Brodsky, or what someone so sexually active did about women. My downtown bars and clubs certainly were filled with the most marvelous adventuresses. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I did not read Heimkehr until I bought myself a copy in 1980 in Vienna, and it bugged me that no one had bothered to send it to me, if only for my collection of first editions, and reading Heimkehr upon my return from a visit to Bulgaria in late October/ early November 1980 made for a rather astounding and totally unexpected experience. </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I had spent nine months in Alaska in 1960, as fire fighter and geological surveyor, which Handke, since he didn’t want to hear my Alaska anecdotes, of course knew nothing of, and thus I had a dozen or so extraordinary Alaskan experiences but the biggest experience of them all, that of the vastness of Alaska seemed to have remained something that had hung over, a latency that had wanted to be articulated all those years, twenty years that is, and the Alaska chapter, the lens that the seismographer Handke / Sorger sets then unloosed a flood of emotions and I was all bubbly and enthusiastic when I got to Salzburg, especially since someone in Vienna, on the street, a woman, approached me and told me I reminded her of Laufer! </b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Later then you read of Handke finding solace with Siegfried Lenz whose presence assists in getting over the dreadful New York experience, and by the time of writing of My Year in the No-Man’s Bay Handke is once again ridiculing having been distraught in the Hotel Adams.</b></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #fce5cd;"><b><br /></b></span></span><span style="background-color: #f4cccc; font-size: medium;"><b>.</b><b>=IV-C=</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;">Salzburg</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;">As mentioned previously, in 1979 I had a girlfriend who spent a semester studying in Paris and I made it a point not to visit Handke, if he was even still in Paris at that time, but took Rachel to visit Wilfred Burchett in his bungalow in Clamart. Thus the next time I would see Handke was going to be in Salzburg in Fall 1980 upon my return from a four week USIA cultural exchange visit to Bulgaria. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The account, in German, available via </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;">http://www.van.at/lesen/set01/roloff01.htm</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #f4cccc;">of my visiting Handke in Salzburg in early November 1980 actually suffices as a report of what transpired. All I want to add to the account is that on subsequent self-exmination of my behavior I think I was gunning to beat Handke at Taroq as soon as he asked me to play with his opponent when I apparently became too intense while playing with him. Even ascending the Moenchsberg I think was a kind of act of insurrection, I had some vengeance in me. I am still amazed that I picked up the game so quickly and added the poker dimension. It isn’t often that I have flown as high as I did after what I regarded as a victory for peace after four weeks in Bulgaria with the U.S. Marines moved away from the U.S. library and the KGB guys in their cars moved away from watching who went to read American books, if in fact the promises made to me were fulfilled. I came out of Bulgaria completely charged - the air? something in the black sea soil? - as I have been rarely, and I don’t think Handke knows how smart he was “not to show me Libgart”, because if she had been as eager for me as we had been for each other about 15 years prior, off to the Hotel Mirabelle it would have been. At any event, if anyone’s behavior approximated idiocy during that day, it was mine and not Handke’s. Of course I picked up his again showing off, and I don’t mind in retrospect considering his origins, but what surprised me at the time was his inability to loose at a game, his need to dominate which, as it turned out, is a feature that already characterized his earliest childhood. However, if I reflect on the fairly downcast Handke of Fall/ Winter 78/79 in New York, now living among the “grosse Tiere” on the Moenchsberg, he had become “herrenhaft”, domineering, not my suit at all.</b></span><br /><div>
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Subsequent contact with Handke was his asking me in 1981 to translate his WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES (Ariadne Press)</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">=IV-C=</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Salzburg</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">As mentioned previously, in 1979 I had a girlfriend who spent a semester studying in Paris and I made it a point not to visit Handke, if he was even still in Paris at that time, but took Rachel to visit Wilfred Burchett in his bungalow in Clamart. Thus the next time I would see Handke was going to be in Salzburg in Fall 1980 upon my return from a four week USIA cultural exchange visit to Bulgaria. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The account, in German, available via </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.van.at/lesen/set01/roloff01.htm</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">of my visiting Handke in Salzburg in early November 1980 actually suffices as a report of what transpired. All I want to add to the account is that on subsequent self-exmination of my behavior I think I was gunning to beat Handke at Taroq as soon as he asked me to play with his opponent when I apparently became too intense while playing with him. Even ascending the Moenchsberg I think was a kind of act of insurrection, I had some vengeance in me. I am still amazed that I picked up the game so quickly and added the poker dimension. It isn’t often that I have flown as high as I did after what I regarded as a victory for peace after four weeks in Bulgaria with the U.S. Marines moved away from the U.S. library and the KGB guys in their cars moved away from watching who went to read American books, if in fact the promises made to me were fulfilled. I came out of Bulgaria completely charged - the air? something in the black sea soil? - as I have been rarely, and I don’t think Handke knows how smart he was “not to show me Libgart”, because if she had been as eager for me as we had been for each other about 15 years prior, off to the Hotel Mirabelle it would have been. At any event, if anyone’s behavior approximated idiocy during that day, it was mine and not Handke’s. Of course I picked up his again showing off, and I don’t mind in retrospect considering his origins, but what surprised me at the time was his inability to loose at a game, his need to dominate which, as it turned out, is a feature that already characterized his earliest childhood. However, if I reflect on the fairly downcast Handke of Fall/ Winter 78/79 in New York, now living among the “grosse Tiere” on the Moenchsberg, he had become “herrenhaft”, domineering, not my suit at all.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">=IV-D=</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Subsequent contact with Handke was his asking me in 1981 to translate his WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.ariadnebooks.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=1572410000</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>After my first read-through I wrote that this would test me to the utmost as indeed it did. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The translation has a long postscript, most of which is on-line @:</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.handketrans.scriptmania.com/custom.html</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">and contains an account of the extra-ordinary time during which it was transformed into American.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>VILLAGES is the case of a godsend that turned into an Albatross if ever there was one. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>As I mention in the postscript, the final version was done during both the heights and depths of a psychoanalysis during the two week holiday at year’s end for analyst and analysand during which I was entirely alone with the text in my loft and could shout it out over and over (Credence Clearwater the only music), which is how the work acquired its “voice” and “cutting” quality, which few if any aside its orginal author picked up. Handke at the end was so happy with the text that he thought I had originated it! That’s sort of mad but points to both his extraordinary generosity but also to the assessment that the text had ideed been “digested” and then come back out of my own voice-box and not as a hairball. For years on end you see the influence of Handke having oracled Doerfer in his subsequent texts, the rhythms, how he resorts to them, as late as the 2007 Moravian Night; and Villages sure came or comes as hell of a surprise on the heels of Handke’s previous... unless you had been witness to how Handke accounts for building himself up to doing, writing it in his second diary volume, Geschichte des Bleistifts. That is, only he was prepared to offer something as generous and wide ranging. You, at least I, can’t see it coming in the previous work.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>For many years Villages became my “heart test”, which few passed. I recall that “the great fondness” responded exclusively to the line that contains the words “hefty taxes.” Perhaps Handke had been right to be so indifferent to her then and not go through the hypocrisy of “oh how nice to see you again!” At any event, translating the dramatic poem made me entirely forget that I had ever withdrawn from the fellow or been seriously perhaps even murderously pissed.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>However, Handke’s once assessment that I didn’t seem to have much luck came true, in this instance, in my relationship with my former employer Farrar, Straus, for whom I had done so much work, whom I had brought all these fine books and authors, and great wealth. My nemesis, the very person who had tried to shoot down Handke initially, who had killed my Adorno Reader, the “asslicking stilletto faggot” as I call this twit, to be as offensive as can be, had managed to lick his way up into the position of editor-in-jefe, and so I got shot down there, and Straus, though he had intitially given me carte blanche on the project, first lied and then backed up his creature (you need to know that Straus, who also lorded it over the women at Farrar, Straus, despised and ridiculed homosexuals yet had several of them working for him. See the above host of links to matters relating to me and Farrar Straus for other disputes I was starting to have with Straus who turned out to be a chiseler and crook that it then didn’t surprise me that Robert Giroux could not write a company history thinking of Straus.) And the successor is not better in living up to the contract or any good at publishing Handke whose main publisher in the English language world has become Seagull Press.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.seagullindia.com/books/defaultnew.asp</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Handke became puzzled at my persistence, (The Unseld/ Handke corresponce also cites his worry.) His work was becoming tangled in a dispute between me and my former employer, for whom I had earned millions and who were not only screwing me in that respect at the moment in my life, with Urizen Books having gone down, that I needed it most. They were also abandoning Handke as playwright when Kaspar and Other Plays was I think in its 10th printing, and Ride Across Lake Constance & Other Plays was in its second. It was the abandonment of Handke at a time that his work was doing extremely well, and it would be eight years between publication of Left-Handed Woman (which had been a great success & published in its entirety in The New Yorker) in 1978 and A Slow Homecoming in 1986, wheras the title text of the U.S. edition ought to have been done a year after it came out in Germany, in 1979, and most likely the New Yorker would also have published that text, or chapters from it, and there would have been requisite publishing continuity; for Homecoming, if you know Left-Handed, is very much the next work in a continuous development, both artistically, and I don’t know, I hate the damn word, “spiritually.”</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>So, in my book, Straus is not only a crook and brute and liar, but also the person who blew the publication success of Handke in the United States and the English language, and it appears Giroux did not stop him, nor anyonce else, and Steve Wasserman, then running the subsidiary Hill & Wang, where plays were consigned, abetted that publishing error; thus in the meanwhile Handke plays are distributed over half a dozen publishers in this country no matter that he won the Ibsen prize as the most innovative living playwright. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2014/09/celebrating-handkes-ibsen-prize.html> </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2012/07/peter-handke-plays-in-english.html</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Subsequent to that altercation I then found Performing Arts Journal to do the translation, folks that had done work for me, and all seemed well. I realized that with the work I had planned for the rest of my life I needed to leave the so distracting and sybaritically pleasurable city, and - while considering my options - managed to have one last amour fou combining it with departure from the city; that is, specifically, I followed the wench to the Southwest, and amour and I then traveled all over south-west Texas and south-east New Mexico, and I kept sending Handke little postcards from each and every hamlet, always signed “as ever.” </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>While translating the great work all residual anger at Handke for his interference in the relationship with the “great fondness” appeared to have vanished. However, the matter how Urizen had gone done and how I had failed to take care of business, that is take care of the one dark partner in time, bothered me. I was in a fighting mood, Handke noted as much reading a small book of poems, Headshots. “You are still fighting,” he noted duly, not imagining that I might also fight him!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>He also inquired about the status of his !0 K loan offer, on which I had taken him up; and all I could reply to that was that Suhrkamp ought to give him the 10 K they owed me as a residual from my having represented them around 1970, and I never heard whether that in fact was done.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>On returning to New York after a year and a half in the Southwest, Performing Arts opted out of their contract with me, no reason given, while yet wanting another work of mine; and with my continued tender state of mind PAJ received the kind of letter that if their sensibility had been tender toes the letter was a sledgehammer, it was conceived and executed with as much force as possible to inflict as much pain as I could; and I sent Peter and PEN a cc as I had of the correpondence with F.S.G. - After years of passively taking punishment, I was now a sharpshooter par excellence. Of Urizen Books I had left one hefty judgment then, with a second to come, but no ability to collect in Palermo. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I had not heard from Peter during the year and a half since leaving N.Y. However, he responded to the PAJ cc with a letter that started, “Schoen wieder mal von Dir zu hoeren” (nice to hear from you again), as though the previous letters and all those wonderful postcards had never been received - not that I was necessarily aware or imagining what his life in Salzburg might be like although the 1984 Across (Chinese des Schmerzens) more than hinted that my man was not the happiest trooper, and that he then fled Salzburg around 1987 did not come as that much of a surprise. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>The letter threatened abrogation of the friendship unless I desisted with letters of the kind I had written to PAJ..."this was something one could not do to him!”</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Already the opening of the letter “nice to hear from you again” had been puzzlingly annoying. Moreover, if you wanted to get my back up at any time, all you had to do was threaten me; even prior to analysis, but even more so even then! At this time while I was still exceedingly volatile it guaranteed a sharp response, this “this was something one could not do to him!” whereas in fact I was fighting for both his and my work, as I had had to previously during the initial translator author relationship. I felt wonderfully righteous indignant and derisive! and recall how I replied, as though I did an hour ago:</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I am living in an idyllic rural loft, the ex-assembly stage for a Dutch flower farmer’s goods... I have a pepper tree shedding pepper corns and a Juniper dripping its sap on my tin roof; I have a view of the Pacific, from 1,500 feet, across Deer Creek Canyon is Dick Clark (of American Band Stand) mini TWA hangar, the dirt road, named Houston, is lined with Agave in their peculiar green gray saw blades. I have bought my first electronic type writer with a bit of memory in it, a Brother, it uses a wonderful plastic ribbon that makes for print perfect legibility; that is, I am making extra certain of the legibility of what I am about to write!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"> I put in one pretty post card into the platen, and then a second.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>As we find out from Herwig’s biography, and the Handke/ Unseld correspondence, making threats was nothing new for Peter Handke. Our lord had got his way in this fashion many times before.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span> So one could only fight for Mr. Handke’s work in such a way as not to besmirch his own ultra high opinion of his self-image! Wow! </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I wrote, “aren’t we lucky to have remained friends all these years what with the “great fondness” and what with the hots I once had for Libgart,” and typing of course made sure that he would have no problem with my difficult handwriting, as he, and as rightly suspected he might have, in AFTERNOON OF A WRITER where Handke then takes rather pathetic vengeance by referencing the apparently illegible postcards “a former... and ex-friend” sends him as he goes mad crossing one Sierra after another. Actually the only postcard of a sierra I sent him in 1985 was of the formidable Sierra del Carmen right acros the Texas border, with only the words “as ever” being invariably legible.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>On later reflection, on taking a close look at how wounded Libgart’s leaving had been to him, I ought to have spared the allusion to the affair barely averted during the 1971 visit!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>However, Handke then did not have a sense of humor and instantly turned to Mannheim to do a second translation. It took me quite a few years to find a publisher for WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES in the U.S. Utterly incompetent Ariadne, despite promises, then didn’t even have it in them to send galleys to Publisher’s Weekly or Library Journal, or make submissions for review. I don’t think they have sold out their Ariadne printing of 500 copies, whereas little Urizen or Continuum had no problem selling 5,000 + of the two Handke poetry collections I did there.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"> </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>From this event I gathered how tender Handke’s self-image was, and that this tenderness proved to be an unusual source of possible violence, and that he had authoritarian tendencies; many-sided Peter Handke, all this accrued about his most many sided work. </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">THE ST. MONICA MTS.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Shortly thereafter THE REPETTION reached me in my mountain fastness and the now “King of Slownes” re-enforced, seconded my, too, becoming a “being of slowness,” as I walked the dusty paths of the chapparell followed by California Quail and rolling Quail eggs.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">With the second tour of an analysis, a matter of course never entirely done, some of Handke’s oddities caught my attention and made me take a closer look </b></span><b style="background-color: #fff2cc; font-size: x-large;">and a deeper appreciation of the oeuvre than translating them, that eventuated in the </b><b style="background-color: #fff2cc; font-size: x-large;">handke.scriptmania project</b><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://www.handke.scriptmania.com/favorite_links_1.html </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">that had its inception with one page</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">and then spawned a dozen subsites</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">and, eventually, gave birth to</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">The Handke Magazine.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">http://handke-magazin.blogspot.com/2010/06/handke-magazine-is-over-arching-site.html</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">On Idiocy once more.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Chiefly as “savant,”</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Hard working, </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Who, for his verbal feats, </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Has thought of himself as Goethe</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">For about 20 years now,</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"> Has intimations of Parcival!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Useful fantasy crutches</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Ctd. “wants to be like somebody else”!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">But has shown the royal road to the holy grail of a renewal of classical prose!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Or a Revoluzzer!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Liberator!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Matters he then ends up making fun of.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">Many initial abberations appear to have subsided, but for the impulse to Run Amok!</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"> 1) lots of them at Safeway stores, semi-morons employed as baggers, several local autists - at the prospect that, it turns out, just one “Genee with the lightbrown hair” separates me from being more of an idiot than I am) </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">2) AUTISM,</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">3)</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">4)</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">5)</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">6)</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">7)Of course I cannot help but connect his behavior that afternoon at the Algonquin with his mentioning, in WEIGHT, that the psycho therapeutician he saw in Paris observing his disconnectness from feelings, alexithemia is the nice technical term </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexithymia</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">(a personality construct characterized by the sub-clinical inability to identify and describe emotions in the self. The core characteristics of alexithymia are marked dysfunction in emotional awareness, social attachment, and interpersonal relating. Furthermore, individuals suffering from alexithymia also have difficulty in distinguishing and appreciating the emotions of others, which is thought to lead to unempathic and ineffective emotional responding. Alexithymia is prevalent in approximately 10% of the general population and is known to be comorbid with a number of psychiatric conditions... Alexithymia is considered to be a personality trait that places individuals at risk for other medical and psychiatric disorders while reducing the likelihood that these individuals will respond to conventional treatments for the other conditions. Alexithymia is not classified as a mental disorder in the DSM-IV. It is a dimensional personality trait that varies in severity from person to person. A person's alexithymia score can be measured with questionnaires such as the Toronto Alexithymia Scale, the Bermond-Vorst Alexithymia Questionnaire the Online Alexithymia Questionnaire or the Observer Alexithymia Scale.) </b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;"><br /></b></span><span style="background-color: #fff2cc; font-size: medium;"><b></b></span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><b style="background-color: #fff2cc;">and with his mention in the 2007 MORAVIAN that his longterm lover wife at one time called him “cold as a Salamander” as no doubt he can be when entirely engaged with a writing project, which is why he finally found a way of not dragging whatever beauty home to suffer the his salamander ways, but divides the locations of family and working life. Otherwise, I would say that whatever alexithymic tendencies there are in Handke’s writing cease with WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES, at which point he strikes me as manifesting the whole range of human symian emotion. </b></span></div>
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fascinating to see all this from your perspective.</div>
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I am most interested in ,say, Libgart Schwartz account, and of course in that of a few others, although Herwig's book, via his interviews, one of the two of its valuable aspects, provides hints of what folks like Peymann etc. have experienced with our genius.</div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">The “simplest” of dreams & comment on what I think it tells us about what we can say about the many matters that are the case.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">The dream, the Amoeba Dream – an entirely narcissistic dream since it involved an injury to a hyper-cathected part the body ego - was dreamt in January of 1992, in the small town of Mulege, in Baja California Sur, Mexico; and its singing woke me rather earlier and less pleasantly than the towns many roosters, braying burros, dogs and birds usually did. Visually, the dream was represented in the form of “A profusion of Chinamen - singing in unison, and dressed in yellow, delta-shaped hats - cutting into the walls of a convoluted mine shaft.” Transcribed into words, the dream said: “Some Chinks are working overtime in the mine shafts.” [Chink/sing] – I awoke knowing, without needing to reflect on or analyze the dream, that I was suffering from a severe case of intestinal amoebas; the toilet was nearby, as was my collection of native herbal cures that the prescient traveler had acquired from the big glass jars stacked to the ceiling at that badly lighted ancient, mysterious and beautiful shop, the Central Botanica in Ensenada. The question is: What does it take for this dream to be dreamt, acted upon, comprehended, communicated, and remembered, etc. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">1] Evidently a goodly number of amoebas, which I knew to be lethal if they accumulate in your liver or course in your blood stream into your brain.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"> 2] Someone who informs himself as to the danger of intestinal amoebas, and who is therefore on the alert; the quality of mental alertness. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">3] Someone who, nonetheless, becomes careless as to what he eats, or unlucky with the dishes he eats from. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">4] Someone with an ear to listen to what sings in his dreams. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">5] On a more serious note: </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;"> a] Intestines with nerves. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">b] Nerves that are in communication, in the way that nerves communicate, with the brain, its vestiges in the stomach & at the top end of the digestive worm. Brain cells, synapses, brain chemistry and circuitry, electricity. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">c] A perceptual system that registers amoebas cutting into intestines as pain; the knowledge of what pain is; the ability to respond to pain. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;"> d] A perceptual system that translates the sensations into visual representation; the system evidently must have access to a variety of sources to reach its conclusion; what nexus is it where the information, coming from the various sources, is combined? And whence the information can be unraveled, to an extant to what we call associating involuntarily. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;"> e] A narrative function that represents what is occurring in story form; the narrative function itself is dependent on the mental state that we call curiosity; brief, nearly as a telegram as this communication to my self was. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">f] An inner eye that perceives what is being presented to it; </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">g] An inner ear that hearkens; </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">h] A recognition of danger, to which one can react with fright; </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">i] A communicative system, in the brain, that translates these matters into what we call consciousness [or a consciousness that always is so, be it in a sleeping or waking state], evidently related, in this instance, to an ability to “hear” and “see”, apparently an internalized eye and ear looking and listening inwardly. - How would this dream be dreamt by someone who is congenitally blind? How do you store the idea of amoebas if you are blind: as woodpeckers, as tiny dogs or rats that may have bitten you? At any event: by analogy. Yet what if you are both blind and deaf but can read Braille: tactilely then? As taste? </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">j] The ability to waken from sleeping into a state that we call awake, simultaneously conscious in this instance of waking and of having been seized by the dream - that is, both of what is inside and what is outside and of the distinction between the two, which were not reflective of each other and stood in no relationship to each other; one part of me, still seized by the inner experience, is taking in a much less charged outside</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">.k] The ability, first, to translate the information into visual imagery and then into words, although the original translation may have been from verbal form into imagery; possibly the translation of what was occurring physically was translated simultaneously into visual as well as verbal terms; yet a variety of memories were evidently accessed for the formulation; grammar; a notion of “sense.” All of those areas were accessed. The dream was dreamt in English; it might also have been dreamt in German; by the fourth incident of amoebic dysentery it could also have been dreamt in Mexican. Intestinales!m] A brain, some of whose various functions, had it been observed by magnetic resonance imaging, would have appeared to be especially active; that is, an economic factor would have been discernible in the images taken. Intensity. An anxious brain, since it knew it could be invaded by amoebas!n] Someone still strong enough to rush to the toilet and proceed on his cure, including a ten day course of Flagyl, which contains minute amounts of arsenic and is therefore even tougher on your stomach than natural herbal concoctions;o] A computer dream screen on which to reverie this communication into one piece! Simple as the dream seems to be as a communication of danger, of an internal one in this instance, it contains one oddity that may even be apparent to someone who does not know the penumbra of my associations: why did the “chinks” that the amoebas cut into intestinal walls, so as to access the bloodstream and proliferate there, need to be represented by “Chinamen” in delta-shaped yellow hats. The “yellow” is easy enough and is realistic in the sense of “yellow plague”: after all, I was being plagued by a “yellow peril” of sorts; I didn‘t like those “chinks” that they were producing, not one bit; moreover, “yellow” is a frequent byproduct of infections, which however I cannot be said to have had: the color yellow is also a by product of liver disease; I can be said to have been scared first yellow and then shitless by the dream; however, my temperature felt quite normal, anxiety of a possibly impending infection then. There is the matter of the “delta” or triangle-shaped hats [seen from a certain angle, as that in the dream, such hats can look triangular and have a dimension, so there is a representational distortion going on in this efficient condensation: however, the notion of “delta-shaped” probably derived from my knowledge of one of the oldest unchanging creatures in our world, the shape of the excrescences of the three million year old jelly-fish, which leave such an unpleasant sting, and a sufficiency of whose defensive emissions can kill you. Yet why the inefficiency of going to the trouble of turning this profusion of dream-mine-mind-magnified “delta-shaped” chink-producing amoebas into “men.” The dream had one other message, and that message was: “You are screwed!” And, literally, only men can screw men: aside the metaphoric truth of that communication of my possible death, the dream thoughts touched on more ancient anxieties. Also: the sheer profusion of these “little men” reminded me of what Lilliputians can do to one’s sense of grandiosity, which had become quite inflated during those first three months in the Baja - what we call the “super-ego” was glad to be out of Bush the First’s Los Estados Unidos Norte and its host of investigations; thusly decompressed, it was quite unrestrained, a bit high, before I was brought low; and dreams being brought low, too, had an ancient history. CommentaryA] Regarding the dream within the history of dream interpretation, I think it would be safe to conclude that what is called “primary process” and “secondary process” mentation occurred simultaneously. How long had the dream been “brewing”? Although amoebas propagate exponentially, it had to have been brewing for some time, but these “chinks” singing was the first I heard of it, the first evidence I had seen of them and the blood they drew. A critical mass had been reached which exceeded whatever disavowal, whatever defenses, if that is the word here, I had put up against wanting to realize what was transpiring inside me. After all, my stool told me that this biting had been going on longer since the minutes that I had dreamt the dream. I had had a delicious very lean Mexican steak at a restaurant called Los Equipales, which is still owned by one Francisco [Pancho] Marron, an interesting last name indeed, though its bearer was quite unaware of its significance. Perhaps the amoebas had feasted on the steak before again turning to me. B] As to wishes being fulfilled: this would seem to be a pretty straightforward anxiety dream, and the only wish that might be latent is the wish to get well. The dream, as pure communication, may possibly be overdetermined in that it also manifests elements of hysteria; and so the notion that the shape of the amoebas was triangular may be overdetermined, too. The “hats” may be the only source of humor, since the sensation of pain mingled with intestinal tickling, the singing sounded also like giggling. However, the amoebas were also on their way to knocking my head/hat off. An overall - nearly petroglyphic - efficiency is to be noted in the construction of the dream for the purpose of being communicative. As to what is called displacement and condensation: the displacement is fairly minor in this instance if for the simple reason that there was a wanting to know directly; condensation is essential if only for the sake of nerve transmission and brain processing. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">C] As to compromises: the communication strikes me as about as direct as possible. There was no pleasure, only pain and greater pain on the horizon. This was a one-act dream, from which I awoke upon a realization of its significance. The matter of the dream drawing on a variety of mental capacities – does that make it automatically a compromise? Or ought the term compromise be reserved for the transformation of conflicting elements that turn into a third element that can be broken down into its components? Though the associations to the various elements of the dream then become fairly numerous, the message being sung is pretty unequivocal, univocal.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;"> D] This is a self-state dream in the sense that it injured my sense of grandiosity; in that respect it is a dream that communicates an injury to the body ego. E] I noted the dream down that morning, made it part of a memoir of my three years in Baja California Sur, and recounted it a few times to people unfamiliar with the esoteric pseudo-science as being illustrative of the pragmatic use of hearkening to your dreams, in the faint hope that they might also pay attention to other matters that dreams can tell them about themselves. I have had similarly efficient dreams about tooth infections, impending colds. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">F] There is no other person in the dream but my body, except for that profusions of “Chinamen” [with whose few shopkeeper descendents in Mulege, inasmuch as I had become aware of their existence, I was on the best of terms,] and that body is that of a Gulliver who may have been gullible to assume a false sense of security in thinking that he was too big to eat while the Lilliputians were carving gullies into him. G] It is possible to conclude from this dream that the mind/brain - in analogy to my beloved term “super-ego” - has a nexus one might term “super coordinator” or “supra-processor,” the main terminal where all these matters come together, and did sufficiently forcefully so to overcome the wish to go on sleeping. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">H] As a matter of fact - excepting my ability to translate the dream into verbal language - we can imagine it being dreamt by just about any mammal in a similar state of distress. I am fairly certain that when my dog wakens from his yapping excited REM dreams and I wave either a rabbit’s foot or a deer’s hoof before his nose and he avidly nods in assent, that the chase he has been engaged is for the eternal rabbit or Bambi. I] In the fewest possible words: from the nexus to the parts, or via the part to the nexus. Despite taking even greater care with the food I consumed I managed to contract three further cases of amoebic dysentery in Mexico and one here in Seattle; the onset of each of which was communicated by a dream.</span>SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-75201834113655578342014-06-21T15:44:00.000-07:002014-07-02T19:14:18.341-07:00DOSSIER MARIA SOMMER {Dr.??} a.k.a. a.k. <b><u><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">DOSSIER DR.
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<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19864">An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'gehrmann'<br />
<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19865">Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Ist Roloff deutscher Staatsbürger ?</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19854"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Ist
der Herr Roloff eigentlich deutscher Staatsbürger?</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19866"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Er
agiert ja fast hypomanisch auf vielen Seiten des Internet gegen die
Beschneidung.</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19868"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Jetzt
wirbt er für eine Petition beim Deutschen Bundestag gegen die Beschneidung.</span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19870"><span style="background: yellow; font-size: 14pt;">Gegen Beschneidung: 668 Stimmen<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19891"><a href="https://epetitionen.bundestag.de/petitionen/_2012/_06/_27/Petition_25502." id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19890" style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); outline: none;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #86171e; font-weight: normal;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19889">https://epetitionen.bundestag.de/petitionen/_2012/_06/_27/Petition_25502</span></span></a></b></span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19887"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19886"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Soweit
ich weiss, haben nur deutsche Staatsbürger Petitionsrecht.</span></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_19884"><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 16.0pt;">Dr.Maria
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;">I don't know what you mean by
"entnehmen", but</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;">for the sake of your pocket book if nothing else.</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20432">If
my blog <a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); outline: none;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 9.5pt;">ttp://analytic-comments.
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;">contains anything of yours personally I will
eat my shoe.</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20435">Of
material deriving from the Psychotherapeuten Group</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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contains two letters, one by Dr. Floeter, one by</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20438">Dr.
Pilgram. I have asked both gentleman if they have any objections but have not
heard back and so assume that so far at least they do not object.</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20440">As
you may recall, I alerted the group at once to my impulsive act while putting
up my entry on circumcision, and apologized for my impulsiveness, which had its
good reason.</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20443">Josef
Pazzini wanted his two replies, to me and to Dr. Pilgram removed and then told
me, privately as it were, that he would put up a summary of his position. He
has not done so to date, and thus his position in as much as you can
extrapolate what it is from attacks on it, looks a bit tattered, to put it
mildly.</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20445">However,
subsequent to my notice I received a bunch of the nastiest e-mails from it
appears the abattoir of your membership, Goldgrube, Webster, Gehrmann, etc who
had contributed nothing to the debate at your forum and therefore had nothing
that I might have honored by putting on my blog. Typical foot soldier behavior.
Webster's name appeared once. It was at once removed.</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;">Otherwise, aside my own comments, my blog
contains a lot of material that is in the <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20447">public domain, and it is chiefly in
English. Nonetheless, I am receiving about a 100 hits, chiefly via
Perlentaucher who picked up the blog. Now, if you had been a smart man and
"on the ball" you would have "seized the day" of a
"hot button topic" such as circumcision, and opened your own blog,
and garnered the kind of attention that your work deserves and I tried to do
you a good turn by alerting the Ethik Rat to the existence of the discussion at
your forum.</span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(208, 208, 208); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20450">If
you accuse me once more of theft I assure you that my Berlin lawyer will sue
you, heftily. Meanwhile, perhaps you are enjoying a heatwave, as were we
last week. Go for a swim in the Wannsee, at least take a walk around the Krumme
Lanke</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403923143247_20462"> and be well. </span></span></b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 14pt;">MICHAEL ROLOFF<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16pt;">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16pt;">Dr.jur.Maria Roloff
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<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'Michael Roloff'
<mikerol69 yahoo.com="">; </mikerol69></roloff-maria></span><span style="font-size: 16pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Ich vermute das diese E-Mail eine
Uberraschung fur Sie sein wird, aber es ist wahr. Ich bin bei einer routinen
uberprufung in meiner Bank (Chartered Bank von Sud Afrika) wo ich arbeite, auf
einem Konto gestolen, was nicht in anspruch genommen worden ist, wo derzeit
$14.300,00(vierzehnmillionendreihundert US Dollar) gutgeschrieben sind.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Dieses Konto geh?rte Herrn Christian Eich,
der ein Kunde in unsere Bank war,der leider verstorben ist.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Damit es mir moglich ist dieses Geld
$14.300,000 inanspruch zunehmen,benotige ich die zusammenarbeit eines
Auslandischen Partner wie Sie, der mir die erforderliche Hilfe geben kann fur
diese In anspruchnahme.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Bitte Lesen:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Ihr Anteil ware 30% von der totalen Gange,
wahrend die restlichen 70% ist fur mich und meine Kollegen. Wenn Sie
interessiert sind, konnen Sie mir bitte eine E-Mail schicken, damit ich Ihnen
mehr Details zukommen lassen kann. Bitte, Sie mussen diese Transaktion sehr
vertraulich behandeln weil die Transaktion einer DEAL ist.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Falls Sie mein Angebot akzeptieren und mit
mir zusammenarbeiten, wurde mich das sehr freuen. Sobald ich Ihre Antwort
(Adresse,email adresse und<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Telefonnummer) erhalten habe, werde ich Sie
mit den Details vertraut machen und unser Treffen in Europa arrangieren.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Mit freundlichen Grussen<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 16pt;">Zach Botha<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">When over
eager me posted the psychoanalytically interesting excerpts from the Yahoo
Group discussion that related to the German circumcision debate<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">I had wanted
the Group as a whole to go public. Since what I did was not really permitted
without permission from the individual contributors I had planned to take down
the posting but for those permissions that I obtained. However instant on my
action there sprang forth, from the lower reaches of the Group,<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/09/burokratischer-schunds-der-gruppe.html">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/09/burokratischer-schunds-der-gruppe.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"> a number of members who though they had
contributed nothing to the debate, and had remained entirely obscure to me
until then, started to berate me in to put it mildly in no uncertain terms for
my actions. Someone named Goldgrube, Sabine Webster, but especially someone
named DR. MARIA SOMMER who also
pretended to be “Mize” Roloff. & Dr. Maria Roloff, etc. etc, <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">Whoever and
whatever Maria Sommer may be – she does not come up on Google.de as a practicing therapeutician - she proved
both unrelenting in her attacks but also in adopting a variety of pseudonyms.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">Thus the DR.
(?) MARIA SOMMER DOSSIER: now she is a known quantity, at least in the WW Net.
Her fish has been caught if not fried. <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">If the GROUP
ever decides to post its discussion subsequent to my impulsive action, I will
take down<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">which
meanwhile has had nearly 2,000 hits, steady interest. The main archive<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">has exceeded
10,000 hits, and when I have the time I keep adding interesting matters to it<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">It appears
that the origin of circumcision is related to cleanliness, and it began to be
practiced in areas that lacked water. That makes sense, especially if you think
of comparatively archaic sexual practices and desires and their consequences.
The Abrahamic religtions, however, appear to have been the first it to make “cleanliness next to Godliness” and anchor and adumbate the practice in the most interesting psychological ways. First graphic representations, many thousand years old, are Egyptian.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">My translation
of Michael Wolfshohn’s piece “Circumcision of the Heart”<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">surprising @
800+.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">SPANK MARIA
SOMMER, SPANK HER GOOD! SPANK THE MEUTE HEXE OUT OF HER<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">HERE THE DOSSIER, AND THE LATEST COMMUNICATION FROM THE IDIOT, THAT
REACHES ME ON THE SOMMER SOLSTICE DAY 2014 AND FINALLY MAKES ME POST HER JUNK
THE LASTEST FIRST<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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n 6/21/2014 7:51 AM, Dr.Maria Sommer wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<strong><span style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Michael Roloff
Zeitungen/Tabakwaren/Pariser and other Praerservatives</span></strong><b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><br />
</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;">Groenerstraße 17<br />
13585 Berlin (Spandau)<br />
<span class="dblink">Hierher mit Bus/Bahn</span><br />
Telefon: (030) 3331248<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Per saperne
di più</span><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;">2012/11/10
roll-off <<a href="mailto:roll-off@onlinehome.de" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc;">roll-off@onlinehome.de</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Von:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Dr.Maria Sommer
[mailto:<a href="mailto:tux@go4more.de" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc;">tux@go4more.de</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
<b>Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 21.
November 2012 22:18<br />
<b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'michael roloff';
Juedischer Zentralrat<br />
<b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>WG: WG: Mike, der
sich hochstaplerisch als Psychoanalytiker ausgibt.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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sich hochstaplerisch als Psychoanalytiker ausgibt.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Sonntag, 11. November 2012 18:43<br />
<b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr.jur.Maria Roloff;
Goldgrube; Sabine Webster; Dr.Maria Sommer; gehrmann<br />
<b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: (c)Michael
Roloff(c)Michael Roloff(c)Michael Roloff(c)Michael Roloff(c)Michael
Roloff(c)Michael Roloff</span><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222;">2012/11/11
Dr.jur.Maria Roloff <<a href="mailto:roloff-maria@onlinehome.de" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc;">roloff-maria@onlinehome.de</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">©Michael Roloff©Michael
Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">©Michael Roloff©Michael
Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">©Michael Roloff©Michael
Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">©Michael Roloff©Michael
Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">©Michael Roloff©Michael
Roloff©Michael</span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff©Michael Roloff</span></b><span style="color: #222222;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Von:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Michael Roloff [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc;">mikerol69@yahoo.com</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
<b>Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sonntag, 11.
November 2012 02:36<br />
<b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mize Rolof;
Dr.jur.Maria Roloff<br />
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Prof.Dr.Sabine Webster<br />
<b>Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: AW: An den
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<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>'Michael Roloff' <<a href="mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1155cc;">mikerol69@yahoo.com</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, November
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<b>Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 9.
November 2012 23:00<br />
<b>An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr.jur.Maria Rolloff<br />
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This LYNX will LEAP you to the Navel to Todos Handke!<br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><b>From:</b> Michael <vorhautfetischist-mikerol online.de=""><br /><b>To:</b> 'michael roloff' <mikerol outlook.com=""><br /><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 22, 2012 2:29 AM<br /><b>Subject:</b> Judith Thurman</mikerol></vorhautfetischist-mikerol></span></div>
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<b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_109" style="background: yellow; font-size: 18pt;">peter handke wrote:</span></b><b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_110" style="background: yellow; font-size: 18pt;"><br /><br /><b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_111">herr krahberger:</span></b><br /><b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_112">ich kenne roloffs texte. ich hab mal ein girlfriend von ihm, die judith thurman,</span></b><br /><b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_113">verfuehrt, aber zur zeit war roloff selbst ganz gluecklich die loszuwerden.</span></b><br /><b><span class="yiv9597713791yui_3_7_2_18_1366727096804_114">ich halte ihn fuer einen psychopathen ....</span></b></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> Mize Rolof <<a href="mailto:mi-roloff@sofort-surf.de" rel="nofollow" style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: purple; margin: 0px; outline: none; padding: 0px;" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:mi-roloff@sofort-surf.de">mi-roloff@sofort-surf.de</a>><br /><b>To:</b> 'Michael Roloff' <<a href="mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" style="background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: purple; margin: 0px; outline: none; padding: 0px;" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com">mikerol69@yahoo.com</a>><br /><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:01 AM<br /><b>Subject:</b> AW: An den Herrn Oberfälscher</span></div>
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<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403460550546_6202"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403460550546_6201">From:</span></b> Dr.jur.Maria Roloff <roloff-maria onlinehome.de=""><br /><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403460550546_6200"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1403460550546_6199">To:</span></b> 'Michael Roloff' <mikerol69 yahoo.com="">; </mikerol69></roloff-maria></span></div>
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Ich vermute das diese E-Mail eine Uberraschung fur Sie sein wird, aber es ist wahr. Ich bin bei einer routinen uberprufung in meiner Bank (Chartered Bank von Sud Afrika) wo ich arbeite, auf einem Konto gestolen, was nicht in anspruch genommen worden ist, wo derzeit $14.300,00(vierzehnmillionendreihundert US Dollar) gutgeschrieben sind.</div>
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Dieses Konto geh?rte Herrn Christian Eich, der ein Kunde in unsere Bank war,der leider verstorben ist.</div>
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Damit es mir moglich ist dieses Geld $14.300,000 inanspruch zunehmen,benotige ich die zusammenarbeit eines Auslandischen Partner wie Sie, der mir die erforderliche Hilfe geben kann fur diese In anspruchnahme.</div>
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Ihr Anteil ware 30% von der totalen Gange, wahrend die restlichen 70% ist fur mich und meine Kollegen. Wenn Sie interessiert sind, konnen Sie mir bitte eine E-Mail schicken, damit ich Ihnen mehr Details zukommen lassen kann. Bitte, Sie mussen diese Transaktion sehr vertraulich behandeln weil die Transaktion einer DEAL ist.</div>
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Falls Sie mein Angebot akzeptieren und mit mir zusammenarbeiten, wurde mich das sehr freuen. Sobald ich Ihre Antwort (Adresse,email adresse und</div>
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Telefonnummer) erhalten habe, werde ich Sie mit den Details vertraut machen und unser Treffen in Europa arrangieren.</div>
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-66713215728562438472014-03-12T21:04:00.000-07:002014-03-12T21:04:31.435-07:00A COMMENT ON Ivey's "ENACTMENT CONTROVERSIES"<br />
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CONTROVERSIES</span></u></b><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">"</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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Ivey’s précis:<o:p></o:p></span></i></li>
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critical review of the current disputes
concerning counter-transference enactment
systematically outlines the various issues and
the perspectives adopted by the relevant
psychoanalytic authors. In the light of this the
‘common ground’ hypothesis concerning the
unifying influence of contemporary
Counter-transference theory is challenged. While
the existence of enactments, minimally defined
as<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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analyst's inadvertent actualization of the
patient's transference fantasies, is widely
accepted, controversies regarding the specific
scope, nature, prevalence, relationship to
countertransference experience, impact on the
analytic process, role played by the analyst's
subjectivity, and the correct handling of
enactments abound. Rather than taking a stand
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psychoanalytic school or philosophical position,
the author argues that the relative merits of
contending perspectives <u>is best evaluated
with reference to close process scrutiny of
the context,</u> manifestation and impact of
specific enactments on patients’ intrapsychic
functioning and the analytic relationship. A
detailed account of an interpretative enactment
provides a context for the author's position on
these debates.” </span><i><span style="color: #465979; font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-language: HE;">Gavin Ivey’s</span></i><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p>
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position is of
itself an enactment!, n’est pas?... which
during the course of time will elicit
responses, that will elicit counter-responses,
Thus, the discipline’s original sin! The
ancient position of the patient as scientific
object; that is, arrogance.</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">The patient is made responsible to
introducing – I
love the word – an “introject” into the
analyst, and the analyst’s, it so appears,
wish is to be immune, or is supposed to be
immune to such intrusions. - But what if the
analytic relationships, the way it is
conducted, by
definition of its <big>abnormalcy</big>
(quiet analyst for analyzands to start
listening to what pours out of them;
asymmetrical educationally; if on the
couch in a regressive position, the
analyst supposedly empathically sinking with
him, etc) assures such enactments? That is,
that there may be a fundamental flaw in the
analytic attitude if</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> as
intense a relationship as a flourishing
analytic one is subjected to it ? That there
is something fundamentally inhuman and
arrogant (though arrogance itself of course
is the most human? Find me an arrogant
animal???) in treating</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><b> the
patient as scientific object. By definition,
arrogance and its wages ruins relationships,
of all kinds. </b><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Behind the controversy seems to
reside the analytic communities' wish to
remain in control and the fear of a/ the real
that exists in as intense a relationship as a
flourishing analytic one – where analyst and
analysand when going is good can grunt to each
other like comfy pigs in their sty.</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Many of the questions raised – the
good or bad of enactments - are on the "make
work" order, are strictly situational or
contextual, and thus inaccessible
to theory.</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">For a great example of an
enactment that an in many ways superb analyst
brought on himself with the arrogance of
thinking that he could lie about not knowing
German, to someone who was as proficient in
both English and German as I, also as a poetic
translator, I link to</span></b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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proved to me, ultimately, was our extraordinary
closeness, which he wasted!</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">After joining SPSI
through the sponsorship of David Spain in the
mid-90s, I made pleasant
acquaintance with Dr. George “Mike” Allison,
who, however, shied away from
discussing the TRAPPER piece. Not so the analyst
I am closest to here, name-coz
Leland Roloff, who heads the Jungian crew, who
pointed out that not only was
the intention of this dream for the analyst to
divulge that in fact he did know
German, but that the dream also expressed the
longing for a protective instead
of a hurtful father. I then could not agree more
although I had been entirely
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<b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">The dream was dreamt
during a repeat of an abandonment experience of
age 9 month, matters were
stormy, the analyst had withdrawn into a
position of saying that he could no
longer discern what was going on through the
storm clouds (i.e. would/ could no
longer “hold” me, something that elicited a
gritty resolve response in me), I
was feverish, I was demylenating, losing weight.
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<b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">The poem itself had
been learned with a dozen other Goethe poems
appr. 25 years prior during senior
year in college <u>from</u> and <u>for</u> a
good father figure, the Goethe
professor Harry Pfund, a class that was
conducted at his home over coffee and
cake! (If you had asked me in the early 80s
whether I remembered any of these
poems I would have definitely said no, as I say
now. Heirlooms in the memory
vaults that awaken! I probably knew the
Fischer-Diskau setting from even
earlier. The landscape of the poem, the willow
trees were was that of my childhood.)</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18.0pt;">- I only write symbolically!
And that is all I want to suggest as to the
improvement of Central Europe. Disclosure
comes gradually or quickly. Perhaps some
relationships want to remain entirely
impersonal, so be it. I happen to prefer warmth,
probably because of that
aboriginal trauma, although I was able to suffer
through the <i>Fram </i>being
crushed in pack ice. Saying
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-72009082841282475852013-09-13T10:41:00.001-07:002013-09-15T17:01:19.554-07:00Comments on Shierry Nicholson's “Now it looks at me"<span style="background-color: yellow;"><br />
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<b><big><big>“Now it looks at me":<br />
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</big></big> Aesthetic Experience and the Work of
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<b><u><span style="color: #241f20; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18pt;">Exact
Imagination,
Late Work</span></u></b></div>
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<span style="color: #666666; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 18pt;">On Adorno's
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;"><a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/exact-imagination-late-work" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/exact-imagination-late-work</a></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "DejaVu Sans Mono"; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">where
she also demonstrates,
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<big><big><b style="background-color: yellow;">Presenter:
Shierry Nicholsen, Ph.D., F.I.P.A.</b></big></big></div>
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<big><b style="background-color: yellow;"><big>“’Now
it looks at me’: Aesthetic Experience and the Work of
Psychoanalysis”</big><br />
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<big><b style="background-color: yellow;"><big><big>Presentation
Abstract: ,,We often sense that there is something
aesthetic in our psychoanalytic work. This paper attempts
to find the basis for that feeling by exploring the
commonality of aesthetic experience and the work of
psychoanalysis. The paper elaborates a series of key
metaphors for processes at work in both aesthetic and
psychoanalytic experience: face, field, enigma, rhythm,
metaphor, and configuration, weaving together formulations
drawn from psychoanalysts, artists and theorists of
aesthetics.,, ,,Biography: ,,Shierry Weber Nicholsen is a
psychoanalyst and psychotherapist in private practice on
Capitol Hill in Seattle. She did her analytic training at
the Northwestern Psychoanalytic Institute (NPS) in Seattle
and is on the faculties of both NPS and SPSI. She is the
author of Exact Imagination, Late Work: On Adorno's
Aesthetics (MIT Press, 1997).</big></big><br />
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<big style="background-color: yellow;"><b>Discussant:
Oscar Romero, M.D.</b><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></b></big></div>
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<big><b style="background-color: yellow;">The
Canvas, The Couch and The Mental Space: On Shierry Nicholsen’s
Paper “ ‘Now It Looks at Me’...”<br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Comments on Shierry Nicholson’s</span></b></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><b><u><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Now It Looks at Me</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"></span></b></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">First,
let me congratulate Shierry Nicholson on a wonderful dialectical figuration of
a commonality of the analytic and the aesthetic. What pivot! I am amazed, I, this
most critical of beasts, has not one quibble. Yet, I want to add three
observations after calling attention to one of my favorites </span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Shierry’s</span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #241f20; font-size: 18pt;">Exact
Imagination, Late Work</span></u></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #666666; font-size: 18pt;">On Adorno's
Aesthetics</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><a href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/exact-imagination-late-work" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/exact-imagination-late-work</a></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">where
she demonstrates, uniquely, how Benjamin’s thought was absorbed by Adorno.</span></b></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">(1)
My initial comment concerns an aesthetic experience I had prior to
psycho-analysis. As the first translator
and director of Peter Handke's plays I had no idea what to expect when an
audience undergoes these non-naturalistic texts, first of PUBLIC INSULT/
OFFENDING THE AUDIENCE - so I was quite pleased when a New York analyst came up
to me after we had done it at the Goethe House in the late 60s and said the
audience had had one hour of the best kind of group analysis consciousness
raising. Well that's what it was for sure, among any other matters that this
very activist piece does. KASPAR, (“I want to be someone like somebody else was
once!”) a participatory speech torture, then indeed, can induce the pain of learning
language and the search for an identity in an audience. However,
I had no idea what to expect from a performance of THE RIDE ACROSS LAKE
CONSTANCE. I had translated it, it is a play that consist of dialogue of the
most absurd kind, the kind of questions posed analogous to Wittgenstein’s <u>Philosophical
Investigations</u> but transferred into the <i>Lebenswelt
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">"</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: And
have you ever heard of a "fiery Eskimo"</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Janning</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">s: Not that I know</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: If you don't know it, then you haven't heard of it either.
But the expression "a flying ship" - that you have heard?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: At most in a fairy tale.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: But scurrying snakes exist?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Of course not.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: But fiery Eskimos - they exist?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: I can't imagine it.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: But flying ships exist?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: At most in a dream.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Not in reality?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Not in reality.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><i><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">pause</span></i></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: But born losers?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Consequently they exist.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: And born trouble makers?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: They exist.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: And therefore there are born criminals.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: It's only logical.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: As I wanted to say at the time...</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings:</span></strong><b><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">[<i>interrupts him</i>] "At the time"? Has it been
that long already?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George [</span></strong><strong><i><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">hesitates, astonished</span></i></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">] Yes, that's odd! [<i>Then continues rapidly</i>] Just as
there are born losers, born troublemakers, and born criminals, there are [<i>he
spreads is fingers</i>.] born owners. Most people as soon as they own something
are not themselves any more. They lose their balance and become ridiculous.
Estranged from themselves they begin to squint. Bed wetters who stand next to
their bed in the morning. [The bed signifies possession. Or perhaps their
shame?]</span></strong><b><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"> </span></b><strong><i><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">[brief
moment of confusion, then he continues at once</span></i></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">]. I, on the other hand, am a born loser: only when I
possess something do I become myself...</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: [<i>interrupts him</i>] "Born owner" I've never
heard that expression.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><i><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">pause</span></i></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: [suddenly] "Life is a game..." You must have
heard people say that?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">P. 77</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Only one thing I don't understand. Of what significance is
the winter evening to the story? There was no need to mention it, was there? [<i>Jannings
closes his eyes and thinks</i>] Are you asleep?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: [<i>opens his eyes</i>] Yes, that was it! You asked me
whether I was dreaming and I told you how long I sleep during the winter nights
and that I then begin to dream toward morning and as an example I wanted to
tell you a dream that might occur during a winter night.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Might occur?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: I invented a dream. As I said, it was only an example. the
sort of thing that goes through one's head... As I said - a story?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: But the kidneys flambe?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Have you ever had kidneys flambe?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Not that i know.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Jannings</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: If you don't know, then you haven't had them....</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Von Stroheim</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Did you dream about it?</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Porten</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Someone mentioned it in a dream [<i>she hands the pin to
Bergner</i>] When I saw the pin just now, I membered it again. And I had
thought about it as also just another word.</span></strong><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><br />
</span><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">George</span></strong><strong><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: blue; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">: Once someone told me about a corpse with a pinhead-sized
wound on his neck [<i>pause</i>] [<i>to Jannings</i>] did you tell me about
that?</span></strong><b><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: maroon; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"></span></b></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Absurdist,
playful, very dream-play inducing, some of it may remind of Ionesco. However
what is absurd is/ are the reasonable questions put in ordinary so-called
rational language rational syntax and what I want to emphasize is that this
sort of thing goes <i><u><span style="color: #4f81bd;">on a continuous basis for an hour and a half.</span></u></i>
The audience revolted because they did
not have the strap of a story to hang on to. They did not catch on to the fact
that this was a HAPPENING, but a highly formalized one, an EXPERIENCE that DID
something to their MINDS. that I would say had a DISSOCIATIVE effect – and in that
respect it resembles the dissociative effect of the asymmetrical analytic
situation</span></b></div>
<div style="line-height: 150%;">
<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"> I myself came out transported into a
deliciously cleansed state of mind (and thus kept going back during the five
week run for at least a ten minute hit!), in fact of a kind I would not experience
again until I entered analysis and started having what are called a "good
hour", and until I experienced the only other Handke play that I know has
this same (non-Aristotelian) <i><u>cathartic</u></i>
dissociative effect, "The Hour We Knew Nothing of Each Other" (which
consists of an hour and a half of changing images) - although Handke’s
"The Art of Asking" may have a similar overall effect, but I have
only read that. But these effects are not to be had in the reading, only in the
<i>experiencing</i>. – As in the analytic
situation which itself, for the very position in which analyst and analysand
find themselves find themselves is of itself <i>dissociative.</i></span></b></div>
<div style="line-height: 150%;">
<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Out
of the darkness of the experience, out of the enigma shines the light… after a
long series that works also on the fundamental phenomeonological neurological
and kinesthetic level. </span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><a href="http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2010/05/index-page-for-this-and-all-other.html" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: yellow; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat; color: red;">http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2010/05/index-page-for-this-and-all-other.html</span></a></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">Volume I of the Collected Plays</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Handke-Plays-Accusation-Contemporary/dp/0413680908" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Handke-Plays-Accusation-Contemporary/dp/0413680908</a></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">(2)
There is that MOMENT isn’t there at which what Shierry calls the FACE is
recognized, where one recognizes one’s self.
This may involve something as momentous as what Lacan called, perhaps
too portentously, “the stage des miroir” – however, at whatever stage it occurs
it is a moment of crystallization, and it is epiphanic – and once it passes the
</span></b></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"><img border="0" height="743" moz-do-not-send="true" width="581" /><b> </b></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">result
becomes enigmatic. – I don’t know which if any Paul Klee image Shierry has
mind, but I want to suggest that Klee who specialized in the most playful of
self-portraits – most famously perhaps his (above) <u>Angelus Novus –</u>
reaches a/the moment(s) when he signed off on these self-portraits. Perhaps he
himself regarded them as what Benjamin called “death masks of an experience.”</span></b></div>
<div style="line-height: 150%;">
<span style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">(Although
I read his notebooks many years ago, I am merely positing something of that
kind here.) It was done. Later he would have the urge, playful, or serious,
playfully serious, to do another. Moments such as that occur not only between
an artist and his work, but also in the analytic situation. And one can of
course deconstruct them, and that is always interesting, but the <i><u>summa</u></i> will remain enigmatic in
the way that Shiery has defined the navel – although I suggest that the navel,
the source, has become more penetrable since Freud wrote those famous words. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klee_Notebooks" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klee_Notebooks</a> <img border="0" height="241" moz-do-not-send="true" width="209" /><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=paul+klee+paintings&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=910&bih=428&dpr=1&bvm=pv.xjs.s.en_US.CQsooEYev9Y.O&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=5vcxUv__D4PgiwKe54CwDQ" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=paul+klee+paintings&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=910&bih=428&dpr=1&bvm=pv.xjs.s.en_US.CQsooEYev9Y.O&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=5vcxUv__D4PgiwKe54CwDQ</a></span></b><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;"></span></span></div>
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<div style="line-height: 150%;">
<b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;">(3)
Shierry mentions that she regards Adorno a mentor, and so do I, although I had
a few others by the time I came on Adorno in the early 60s: Karl May (!),
Shakespeare, Joyce (I noticed in writing some prose poems how I fell into
pacing the way Joyce does.), Faulkner,
Kafka, Brecht, Lukacs, Marx, Pound, Goethe, Flaubert. The most impressive,
Freud, awaited me in the 80s. In the late 60s I had prepared an Adorno Reader
in collaboration with the author, and with an introduction by Susan Sontag, and
if Shierry and Sammy Weber had been as proficient as she became later as an
Adorno translator someone, a truly vile person at Farrar Straus, would not have
been in the position to find and excuse for killing that project after I left
that firm in 1969, and it would have made a real difference to have an Adorno
Reader published in that fashion at that time. Later, at Continuum Books I did
several Adorno titles, but as co-publisher of Urizen Books only a Frankfurt
School Reader since the working partner had had a run in with Adorno in
Frankfurt.. I
know or at least knew most of Shierry’s references, although more sharply at
one time than I do now. They hover in the background as I complete a big novel
that has two analysts as narrators, one ancient Austro-American somewhat
paraplegic, the other the very mobile fictitious daughter of Wilhelm Reich. </span></b></div>
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-53379152983023721882012-11-19T20:47:00.000-08:002012-11-20T09:47:30.902-08:00OFFENER BRIEF AN DEN JUEDISCHEN ZENTRAL RAT ETC.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"> <br />
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<br />
<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Ich schreibe ihnen,
teile mit ihnen
meine Überlegungen, meinen Blödsinn und Nicht-Blödsinn<br />
über die Brit Milah, die Beschneidung, über anti-Semitismus<br />
und dem Verhältnis zwischen Juden und Deutschen, und bitte
sie alle um
Entschuldigung meines etwas unbeholfenen Auswanderer Deutsch
wegen.<br />
<u><br />
Erstens einiges zur Beschneidung.</u></span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"> Was
meines Erachtens
in dem <u>ganzen</u> Palaver über die Beschneidung fehlt -
hier das Archiv für
diese Debatte, die jetzt in die USA über geschwappt ist, auch
weil die Praxis
des </span></b><span style="background: fuchsia; color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;">metztizah
b’peh</span><b><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">
</span></i></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">in
New York die Zustimmung <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>über
Gefahren informierten Eltern erfordert
werden soll und die Mohels sich dagegen wehren...
und Mayor
Bloomberg befürchtet von 10,000 schwarzen Hüten die auf und ab
hüpfen am New
Yorker Mayor’s Office heimgesucht zu warden! Es hat schon
seine Komik was hier
alles zusammentrifft! Ein Ober-Rabbiner namens Metzger fährt nach Deutschland um die Metzgerei an Saueglingen weiter zu erlauben als das Kölner Gericht es verbietet!</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">ist
die archäologische
Dimension. Woher stammt der Brauch der dem der Weiblichen
Beschneidung-Verstümmlung gleicht in dem er die selben Nerven
durchschneidet
und die dementsprechende Häute abschneidet? Weder der Ritus
noch der Brauch
sind nur in, bei Abrahamistischen Religionen, Stämmen
vorzufinden, aber auch
bei Afrikanischen, z.b. die Zhosa, noch jetzt. Bei anderen,
auch bei denen die
die weibliche Beschneidung praktizieren, ist er aber genau so
verpönt wie es
schon bei den Römern und Griechen der Fall. <br />
<br />
Woher stammt dieser Brauch der in der Torah als Kern der
Jüdischen Religion
betrachtet wird. Die Jüdische Religion, jedenfalls die
die sich auf die
Torah beruft, braucht einen Kern, brauchte einen, und nahm die
Beschneidung als sakral, als notwendig und hat eine Zeremonie
dafür. Es
hat diesen Kern verteidigt gegen die Römer und wen noch, jetzt
gegen eine Regel
des Deutschen Grundgesetzes, zu einer Zeit aus notwendigem
Trotz einer Macht
gegenüber, die aber wohl gefährlicher war als das so schöne
Deutsche Nachkriegs
Grundgesetz. </span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"> Dass
sich diese
Identität erhalten hat - kaum was anderes macht mich
glücklicher! Genau so wie
jeden Tag den ich an die Shoah denke mein ganzer Körper sich
in eine weinende
Wunde verwandelt. </span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Aber
könnte es bessere Arten
geben Jüdische Identität zu erhalten? Und sollte man solche
beleidigende
Kompromisse wie der vorgeschlagene Gesetzentwurf annehmen, die
von Schuld
weichgemachten, zuvorkommenden Politikern stammen?<br />
<br />
Also, noch mal, woher stammt der Brauch - jedenfalls nicht von
10 tausend Jahre
alten Gedanken über Hygiene, auch damals wusste man schon was
waschen ist. Und
Juden und dieser Brauch sind nicht von einem Stern oder
Planeten irgendwann in
dem was wir jetzt den Mittleren Osten nennen in einem
Spaceship gelandet. Die
Jüdische Religion, der Jüdische Stamm hat sich aus anderen
entwickelt,
Separation/ Individuation Differenzierung heißt das auf
individueller Basis,
das Sonderfeld der Analytikerin Margaret Mahler, eine
Individuation die
nur gefordert und möglich wird wenn eine uniforme Masse <u>zu</u>
massenhaft
wird. Jedes Dorf ein Stamm, jedes Dorf seine Stamm Götter! Jeder dieser Stämme oder Völker hatte dann seine eigenen
Götter, eine
Differenzierung in dem die Menschen individuelle Qualitäten
wieder erkennen,
oder die wieder gespiegelt wird. Benennen. <br />
<br />
Der Brauch stammt ab von dem Opfertod des erst-geborenen Sohns
- welche Gefahr
bedeuten Söhne für die Väter? Kastration war danach
erschreckender, züchtiger
und im gewissen Sinn vernünftiger, man hatte einen gezähmten
Sohn, und
erschreckende/s Vorbild [er]. Unter anderem ist das <i>Brit
Milah</i> das
Überbleibsel dieses zivilisierenden Versuchs die Fortpflanzung
ohne allzu viel
Zeter und Mordio zu vollziehen. Ein Vorhaut wird geopfert, man
bezeichnet dies
als Kompakt - ein Kompakt der bedeutet das der Gottvater das
Kind dafür nicht
tötet, nicht als ganzes opfert. [Inwiefern <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">….</i>der
für die Haredim in New York so wichtige Nebenbrauch des<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> </i></span></b><span style="background: fuchsia; color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;">metztizah
b’peh</span><b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"> </span></i></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">nur hygienisch und lindernd gemeint
war, sei dahingestellt. Auch
er könnte ähnlich dunkle Herkünfte wie die <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Brit
Milah </i>haben.] An diesem Punkt ist die Entwicklung in
der Jüdischen
Religion, bei einer ihrer Sekten, stecken-geblieben - dass die
<i>Brit Milah</i>
so 5000 Jahre Brauch ist spricht weder für noch gegen diesen
Brauch der auch nicht
spezifisch oder exklusiv Jüdisch ist, weder ist es der Oedipus
Komplex, dem man
nur in das Avunculate ausweichen kann.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Und
ich frage mich, wie
steht's eigentlich mit der Identität der Jüdischen Mädchen?
Oder, um es
historisch auszudrücken: seit wann wurden Jüdische Mädchen, im
Vergleich zu
anderen Angehörigen der u.a. Abrahamistischen Religionen,
nicht mehr
beschnitten? Glauben auch Sie, <span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow;">liebe Frau Deusel,</span> wahrhaft, dass das
Abschneiden der Vorhaut,
des sexuell empfindlichsten männlichen Teil, welches außer dem
Klitoris dem
weiblichen entspricht, und noch dazu 8 Tage nach der Geburt,
zu rechtfertigen
ist, nur weil die Abrahamistischen Religionen es für
ein Identitätstiftendes Ritual halten? Kann man sich nicht
andere
ausdenken die eigentlich Jüdischer sind?</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow; mso-shading: white;">Later in the 12th
century, the Jewish
rabbi Moses Maimonides expressed Jewish thinking on the
subject. In his <u>The
Guide to the Perplexed</u> he says that circumcision is
intended to diminish
the sex drive, adding "The bodily pain caused to that member
is the real
purpose of circumcision."[3] and argued that it should be
done to newborns
because "for up to that time the imaginative form that
compels the parents
to love [the newborn] is not yet consolidated. For this
imaginative form
increases through habitual contact and grows with the growth
of the
child". Maimonides recognized that the true purpose of
circumcision is to
cause a child to suffer so much that, if not done
immediately after birth, the
parents would protest on behalf of their child's well-being
- and this during
the Middle Ages when excruciating pain was quite common.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
<br />
The modern practice of circumcision, began to spread in
English speaking
countries in the 19th century[4] as a method of torture used
against little
boys for masturbation. As Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, a leading
proponent of
circumcision at the time wrote, "The operation should be
performed by a
surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief
pain attending the
operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind,
especially if it be
connected with the idea of punishment, as it may well be in
some
cases."[5]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><br />
<br />
<span style="mso-shading: white;">In modern times, religious
justifications for
circumcision have been replaced by pseudo-secular medical
arguments in support
of the practice. However, modern medicine has exposed
these justifications as
simply more mythology. This is why no national or
international medical
association recommends routine circumcision [6]. There is
simply no medical
warrant for this surgery.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
<br />
<strong><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; mso-shading: white;">Circumcision
is Torture</span></strong></span></i></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="background: white; color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt;"> </span></i></b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><br />
<br />
<span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow; mso-shading: white;">It
may
be tempting to take refuge in the notion that infants
can't feel pain. There is
no reason to believe this. The American Academy of
Pediatrics, American Academy
of Family Physicians, and the Canadian Paediatric Society
all agree that
circumcision is painful to the infant [7][8][9]. There is
no reason to believe
that circumcision is not experienced as extreme torture by
infants. The pain is
so horrendous that many babies go into shock and just
staring making gurgling
noise [10]. These are the lucky ones. Most babies are
forced to undergo the
torture fully conscious emitting terrifying screams for 6
to 10 minutes (see
video).<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow;"><br />
<br />
<span style="mso-shading: white;">In addition to the obvious
physical torture,
the psychological effects of the torment persist after
the procedure. The
British Medical Association (BMA) states that "it is now
widely accepted,
including by the BMA, that this surgical procedure has
medical and
psychological risks."[11]. Violent predispositions,
disrupted
infant-maternal trust and bonding [12], and
post-traumatic stress disorder[13]
are the psychological effects of circumcision.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
<br />
<strong><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; mso-shading: white;">Circumcision
is Technically Illegal</span></strong></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background: white;"> </span></span><br />
</span></i></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"><br />
<br />
Herr Graumann hat ganz Recht in seiner Rede<br />
</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: fuchsia; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/graumann-in-der-paulskirche-ein-schmerz--der-einfach-nicht-vergehen-will,1472798,20823874.html" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/graumann-in-der-paulskirche-ein-schmerz--der-einfach-nicht-vergehen-will,1472798,20823874.html</a></span></span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"><br />
Juden gibt es noch, aber keine Babylonier - na ja, es gibt die
Iraquis, die
Sunni and Schiiten die sich oft bekämpfen, wieder so eine
Sekte wo ein Familiendelikt für
tausendjahre lange Kämpfe sorgt. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Liebe Frau Deusel</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">, einige Bemerkungen zu
Ihrem Vortrag über die
Beschneidung der mir als guter "Einschnitt" in die Thematik
vorkommt.<br />
<br />
Ich lese dies<br />
<br />
A]</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">
<b><big><br />
<span style="background: fuchsia; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;">Andrea Dernbach
liest im Tagesspiegel das hochaktuelle Buch "Mein Bund,
den ihr bewahren
sollt - Religionsgesetzliche und medizinische Aspekte
der Beschneidung"
der Rabbinerin und Urologin Antje Yael Deusel, die die
Beschneidung trotz
möglicher </span></span></big></b><b>
</b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: fuchsia; color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;"><big>.</big>..http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/perlentaucher-heute-in-den-feuilletons-a-861272.html</span></b></span></div>
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B]<br />
<i><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.np-coburg.de/lokal/hassberge/hassberge/Alter-Ritus-aktuelle-Brisanz%3Bart83430,2180138&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgBIAAoATACOAJAla6PhQVIAVAAWABiBWRlLURF&cd=2wsINqnvUUs&usg=AFQjCNEIgSmkI2cZ90Wxjq4AMXHc7hSjJw" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1111cc; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">Alter Ritus,
aktuelle Brisanz</span></a><br />
</i></span></b><b><i><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;">Neue Presse Coburg<br />
Damals, bei diesem ältesten Schriftstück über jüdische
Beschneidung, hätte sogar
eine Frau die Handlung vornehmen dürfen. Ungewöhnlich war
ein solcher Brauch in
der Zeit der ägyptischen Großreiche nicht. Viele
Volksgruppen hatten im Nahen
Osten ...</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"><br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.de/news/story%3Fncl%3Dhttp://www.np-coburg.de/lokal/hassberge/hassberge/Alter-Ritus-aktuelle-Brisanz%253Bart83430,2180138%26hl%3Dde%26geo%3Dde&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgBIAAoBjACOAJAla6PhQVIAVAAWABiBWRlLURF&cd=2wsINqnvUUs&usg=AFQjCNG0OJf4r_WECK00wwRGmZwW2D6TsQ" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" title="http://news.google.de/news/story?ncl=http://www.np-coburg.de/lokal/hassberge/hassberge/Alter-Ritus-aktuelle-Brisanz%3Bart83430,2180138&hl=de&geo=de"><span style="color: #228822; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">Alles zu diesem Thema ansehen »</span></a></span></i></b></div>
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Wenn der so schnell, vorschnell entwickelte Deutsche
Bundesregierung Gesetzentwurfvorschlag
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<b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;">[</span></b><b><i><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;">Die
Skepsis
der Pädiater -</span></i></b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;"></span></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;">Unausgegoren, katastrophal - die
Kritik der Pädiater am
Gesetzentwurf zur Beschneidung ist eindeutig. Sie sehen die
UN-Kinderrechtskonvention verletzt - und das Gesetz quasi
schon zur
Verhandlung in Karlsruhe.</span></i></b><b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;">]</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> </span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">angenommen
wird und das
Bundesgericht nichts daran auszusetzen hat, werde ich dann
meinen Sohn
kastrieren lassen können solang das Verfahren nach "ärztlicher
Kunst"
geschieht, ditto weibliche Beschneidung, etwas was einigen
jetzt schon fordern.
– Sie sehen wohin dieses vorschnelle Zuvorkommen hinleitet.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Einen fauleren Kompromiss
als diesen Entwurf
habe ich seit langem nicht zu sehen bekommen. Sowie es mir
vorkommt,
unterstützten inzwischen alle Christlichen Obrikeiten die
Haredim Orthodoxen,
und auch Sie, <span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow;">liebe Frau
Deusel</span>, trotz angeblichem medizinischen Studium</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;"><a href="http://a-r-k.de/rabbiner/#Antje" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">http://a-r-k.de/rabbiner/#Antje</span></a>
YaelDeusel</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"> scheinen
nicht nur
keine blasse Ahnung von Physiognomie Embryologie noch von
unterschiedlichen
Jüdischen Stellungen und Traditionen zu haben</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"><a href="http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.tagesspieg</span></a><a href="http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">el.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html</span></a></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">und versuchen
krampfhaft
angeblich medizinisch-hygienische Gründe als Stützen für die
Mohels
ins Feld zu führen. <br />
<u><br />
Lassen Sie sich doch mal selber beschneiden</u>! garantiert
keine Chlamidia,
noch Gonorreha, und wohl kaum viel Pläsier! Zunähen lassen die
Scheide, nur der
Ehemann darf dann dran! Warum nicht alle in die Kloster
schicken wenn die
Fortpflanzung und das Liebe-machen so gefährlich ist! Skepsis
den Medizinern
gegenüber ist genau so berechtigt wie für die Priester. Denn
es wurde Brauch in
England und der USA im 19ten Jahrhundert als die
Viktorianischer prüde die
Onanie erschwierigen wollten. Stimmt wohl schon, viel weniger
Pläsier! Besseres
Arbeitstier.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Der
Skandal der Debatte ist
doch die Tabuisierung jeglichen Vergleichs von männlicher mit
weiblicher
Genitalverstümmelung. In beiden Fällen wird der empfindsamste
und erogenste
Teil des menschlichen Körpers amputiert oder schwer
beschädigt. In beiden
Fällen geht es um die Beschneidung menschlicher Sexualität, um
Kontrolle, im
Falle der Brit Milah<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>um
das Primat des
Vaters über die Söhne, in Fall der Frauen-beschneidung auch um
Besitz-erhaltung.<br />
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Also,
unfortunately it is /
has been circumcision that</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">
<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">has MADE for no end of irrational anti-semitic,
sentiments. Freud found
that it was the chief reason for unconscious anti-Semitism,
I would have to
agree, also from personal experience on which I can
elaborate at great length
if you like. <br />
And the myths surrounding the Brit Milah are at the core
of the “blood
libel.” Thus, it's time to eliminate the Brit Milah because
if that is the
chief reason for being anti-Semitic or anti-Abrahamic [since
Islam, too,
practices the rite] then why hang on to this left-over of
human sacrifice? that
traumatizes the child, a trauma that can be recovered under
analysis, cutting
off 5,000 nerves, the equivalent of female circumcision in
the sense that it
eliminates everything but the clitoris, and only serves the
Ultra Orthodox to
maintain their power? After all, reform Judaism sought to
eliminate the rite in
the 19th century, it can be simulated, and Jewish identity
depends on being
born by a Jewish mother, or converting. Note especially
Michael
Wolffsohn's two pieces. Circumcision has been controversial
also within Jewry
forever.<br />
<br />
Ich lese Zentralrat Vorsteher Dieter Graumann's</span></span></b><span style="background: white; color: black; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">
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<span style="background: fuchsia; mso-highlight: fuchsia; mso-shading: white;"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/graumann-in-der-paulskirche-ein-schmerz--der-einfach-nicht-vergehen-will,1472798,20823874.html" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/graumann-in-der-paulskirche-ein-schmerz--der-einfach-nicht-vergehen-will,1472798,20823874.html</a></span></span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;"><br />
<br />
und habe den Impuls mit ihm einen Kletzmer zu tanzen, und zu
jauchzen</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">während
ich ihm erkläre dass
das Grass Gedicht nicht anti-semitisch<br />
aber den Gesetzen des modernen Verifikation entspricht was
einige Germanisten,
Dederich, Ans, sehr schön bewiesen haben ohne sich mit seiner
Meinung zu
identifizieren.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;"><a href="http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2012/05/guenter-grasss-notorious-poem-poetics.html***" moz-do-not-send="true">http://artscritic.blogspot.com/2012/05/guenter-grasss-notorious-poem-poetics.html</a></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Also,
wenn man Meinungen bei
einer Gedächtnis Rede äussert, vielleicht nicht so wohlfeil?
Und nach all
diesen Monaten der Grass Kontroverse wieder so plump
draufzuhauhen spricht wohl
von Faulheit? Die Sensibilität kommt mir eigentlich furchtbar
Deutsch vor! Import
a media consultant from New York?<br />
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Das
Gedicht war doch
brilliant effektiv! Wer weiß was Grass wirklich damit vorhatte
außer sich
selbst wieder mal in Licht zu rücken, wie schlau er ist?
Jedenfalls auch als
telegramartiges Editorial spricht es zwei Motive an bei denen
die Lage überhaupt nicht klar liegt - sie liegen, existieren
in dem Tageswirbel der
Propaganda. Was der Maulheld gesagt soll falsch übersetzt sein
lese ich – aber
dass dessen Maul bald von zu Hause abgeschlossen wird, davon
liest man weniger.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;">“</span></b><span style="background: white; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The Israel team considers firing a
demonstration nuclear
shot, a missile warhead that would explode 100,000 feet over
Tehran. Israeli
plans since the 1970s have called for doing this as a last-ditch
alternative to
firing all-out atomic attacks. The blast would shatter windows
in downtown
Tehran, but it wouldn't kill anyone, or hardly anyone. Surely it
would shock
Iran into a cease-fire.</span><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Oder
Grass dachte an was
Amerikanische Bunkerbusting Bomben auf Atomanlagen anrichten
können?</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">
Ein solches Gedicht hinkt
wie die meisten dieser Art – aber es lebt, inwiefern es lebt,
von seiner
Ambiguität.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Das
Archiv dazu:</span></b><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: fuchsia; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 14.0pt; mso-highlight: fuchsia;"><a href="http://goaliesanxiety.blogspot.com/2012/04/gunter-grass-what-must-be-said.html" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">http://goaliesanxiety.blogspot.com/2012/04/gunter-grass-what-must-be-said.html</span></a></span></b><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;"></span></div>
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mal
Doppel Takt, Dieter!</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Herrn
Netanjahu</span></b></div>
<em><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 20.0pt;">“</span></em><em><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The
Bible finds no
worse image than this of the man from the desert. And why?
Because he has no
respect for any law. Because in the desert he can do as he
pleases. The
tendency towards conflict is in the essence of the Arab. He
is an enemy by
essence. His personality won’t allow him any compromise or
agreement. It
doesn’t matter what kind of resistance he will meet, what
price he will pay.
His existence is one of perpetual war. Israel’s must be the
same. The two
states solution doesn’t exist; there are no two people here.
There is a Jewish
people and an Arab population… there is no Palestinian
people, so you don’t
create a state for an imaginary nation… they only call
themselves a people in
order to fight the Jews.” </span></b></em><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">[<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001NCMsPglhgmZ39k6QCKHn6mGIyvDQS9xNhcVycxNCSyZ89BPM2c9lHGcks4_t4GxTIfb_sgy7LrZxTGF2Kb5i2Ai6N0w4tmCEcVaOt8vO7J87IArfMFAMUY6BB9aS4Xvbhzht0ggI3nQMJJnd-ImD2a4Uy1vxPJ4vOm16SWXTWcjQu9xbdjeOCMpfnDAm5XvqGxSmLAYRS5VZaFQA7qUYWrxz0wxbuqxqo-XPKKLPYEzwiFSb2EYnuA==" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">1</a>]<em><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">-
</span></em><strong><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Benjamin
Netanyahu</span></strong></span><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"></span><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">der
Friedensbedrohung
anschuldigen ist wohl eher zahm?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Da
braucht man doch nur einige Hauptwörter auswechseln und es
hätte im <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Stürmer </i>gedruckt
werden können. Was
Grass vollkommen nicht mal anspielt ist das Netanjahu
Kettenhund ist der sich auf
die Unterstützung der <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Neo-Cons des
Amerikanischen Imperiums
verlassen kann, vielleicht von ihnen angefeuert wird den
richtigen Krieg vom
Zaun zu brechen. Was waer Israel ohne USA und drei ein halb
Milliarden
Unterstützung per Jahr – es ist der Hauptstützpunkt des
Imperiums im Mittleren
Osten. Wie Norman Podhoretz einmal sagte:
“America has been good
to the Jews.” – Well, it became good to the Jews after WW II –
until then: at
least no progroms, those were reserved for a different people.<br />
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Fritz
Stern und Reich
Ranicki halten Grass nicht für anti-Semitisch, eher das
Gegenteil.
Reich-Kanickis erster Eindruck, der Grass zu einer Zeit
erlebte als RR noch als
Spion in Warschau arbeitete: Bulgarischen Partisan! Ein halb-Kaschube
der
wohl während seiner Jugend besonders Deutsch sein wollte wie
so viele aus den
Grenzgebieten. Er könnte trotzdem unbewusste Ressentiment
geladene Vorurteile
hegen. Dazu müsste man sich länger mit ihm unterhalten. Aber
Reflex-artig
“anti-Semitismus” schreien sowie Kritik an Israel-Netanjahu
geübt wird, eben
dieses fördert dann Anti-Semitismus!</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt;">Was
sind die Gründe für
Anti-Semitimus außer das scheinbar Menschen Minderheiten
leicht verteufeln, immer
einen Teufel haben müssen... also außer dem so-genannten ewig
“all zu
Menschlichen.” Erstens eigentlich eine Geschichte die der des
Zwist zwischen
den Sunnis und Shiiten ähnelt. Ein Kind wurde angeblich
getoetet, das
Christkind, so hört man vielleicht heute noch in Kärnten die
Priester. [2]
Neid. [3] Dass sie eben nicht goyem sind! Dass sie einfach
anders sind, en gros
und auch im kleinen, bis man sie kennenlernt! Und dann
entpuppen sie sich als
genau so grässlich wie man selbst ist. [4] Dass sie was von
Geld verstehen –
ich finde dass die Schotten das auch tun. Also Neid. [5] Wie
schon oben
angedeutet – dis Brit Milah, die Beschneidung da als
Kastrationsangst erfahren
wird, als Wunde des Zivilisierten. Man sollte ihnen nicht eine
solchen echten
Grund für ihre Anti-Semitismus liefern!<br />
<br />
Was Jüdisch in mir ist identifiziert sich nicht mit der
Netanjahu/<br />
Liebermann Regierung, so wenig wie mit der Masse Jüdischer
Neo-Cons<br />
"Wolfie & Co" die die Spitze des Amerikanischen
Imperialismus
ausmachen, einer von diesen, Herr Joffe, habe ich hier selbst
erlebt wie er
sich anbiedert, und der dann besonders scharf gegen Grass und
das Koelner Gerichtsverbot in dem Wall Street Journal
wetterte.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><br />
<br />
25 Jahre lang säkular hauptsächlich Jüdisch-Amerikanisch<br />
gelebt in der New Yorker Verlagswelt.... aus der Erfahrung
koennte ich nicht sagen
was die Juden als Juden gemeinsam haetten, ausser was man als
"sensibility"<br />
bezeichnet, und was ich hier in Nordwesten des Landes als "zu
wenige
Juden" geistig schmerzhaft als Abwesenheit empfunnden. Ich
brauch sie kaum
von der geistigen Hoehenleistungen der Jewish-Amerikanischen
Literatur zu
ueberzeugen, aber als Lektor dann auch Bekanntschaft mit was
hier "the
Jewish mob" genannt wird [lesen sie mal Robert Kalich’s <u>The
Handicapper!]</u>, also die Hoehen und die Tiefen, aber die
gibt es bei allen ethnischen
Gruppen in New York. New York has a real “heart of darkness”!
And it sits
ineradicably also in the huge bureaucracy of the city, has for
centuries now.
You can’t ask a cab driver for it, as little as you can for
“the Jewish mob”,
for the “Italian mob” the cabbie might have had at least an
idea. </span></b></div>
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Ich lese in der Jüdischen Allgemeinen, dass man dort sich was
überlegt. Ich
wünsche mir, dass diese Überlegungen sich zu dem Entschluss
kommmen, sich bei
den Deutschen Regierenden für ihre Zuvorkommenheit zu
bedanken, und dass die
Jüdische Gemeinde Deutschlands sich entscheidet, das
Grundgesetz anzunehmen des
allgemeinen Frieden<br />
und des Liebe zum Deutschen Volk willens. Ansonsten, sollte
man nicht ausser Acht lassen dass 75 % des Volkes gegen die
Beschneidung ist - und en gros nicht aus Anti-Semitismus oder
Abrahamismus. <br />
Dieser Entschluss würde<br />
viel beitragen zu einem menschlicheren und ehrlicheren
Verhaeltnis und ich
glaube einer ungeheueren Erleichterung und echtem Zuvorkommen,
ich Trottel denk
so was.</span></b></div>
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is not called the 'Partial Declaration of Human Rights'. It
is not
the 'Sometimes Declaration of Human Rights'. It is the
Universal Declaration,
guaranteeing all human beings their basic human rights -
without exception.</span></b></em><span class="apple-converted-space"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="background: white; color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> </span></i></b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="background: white; color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Ban
Ki-moon, U.N. Secretary General, December 2010<br />
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The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child
says that a child has
a right to not be mutilated[14]. The U.S. Constitution[15]
declares that a
child has a right to security and property (we can assume
that a person's body
parts are his or her own property). The Born-Alive Infants
Protection Act
declares that all infants are considered persons under
federal law[16]. Female
genital mutilation is already banned under US federal
law[17]. Torture is
prohibited by Article 5 of the UN Universal Declaration of
Human Rights and the
United Nations Convention Against Torture[18].<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><br />
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practice or act of
deliberately inflicting severe physical pain on a person
[21]. As noted,
circumcision meets this criteria.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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percent[19] of male infants
in the U.S. would be illegal to do to a terrorist. If
Osama bin Laden had been
caught alive, it would be impermissible under the Geneva
Convention to do to
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<b><span style="background: silver; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Below you will find my translation of</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: silver; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 20.0pt;">MICHAEL WOLFFSOHN'S </span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 20.0pt;">"THE FORESKIN OF THE
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<b><span style="background: silver; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">and to Professor
Wolffsohn's C.V.</span></b></div>
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retain their respective copy rights. If you wish to publish in a commercial
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Here the Link to the Archive</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> <span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">for the on-going debate</span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> LINK TO MICHAEL WOLFFSOHN'S ORGINAL GERMAN CONTRIBUTION TO
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> <a href="http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">And to Professor Wolffsohn's Home Lair</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">http://www.wolffsohn.de/</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Babtism in lieu of Circumcision? The Facts for
the German Debate.</span></u></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Jewish identity does not depend on the foreskin.
The circumcision controversy is not a “German debate.” </span></i></b><b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">[1]</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The “halacha”, Jewish religious law, is
unequivocal: an uncircumcised Jew is a Jew insofar as he is the son of a Jewish
mother. Although most German-Jewish and Israeli contributions to this debate
would make you believe otherwise, sheer verbal assertion does not replace
scholarship and the fact that several Jewish political and Rabbinical
representatives in Germany invoked the Shoah and threatened emigration if
circumcision of infants was prohibited, or an exception was not legalized in
Germany under its Basic Law, was a tactless as well as silly maneuver, especially
so in the light of a German democracy that has stood the test of time. That
“Germans, of all people”, as is argued, ought not to participate in the debate,
is an exclusion that I, as a German Jew, am unwilling to countenance</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Are “German, of all people”
less democratic than we Jews, than I? Once again: I will name no names.
Whatever your opinion on the Cologne judge’s circumcision verdict: it
represents especially for us as Jews an opportunity to make the acquaintance of
and bethink Jewish ideas/beliefs, and then, with revivified inner strength, to
maintain – or to change them. We - as opposed to the Christians – ought to
recognize that it is especially this subject that ought to bring us together,
rather than it drive us apart.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The debate in Germany to date has deepened the
division! Have done with the furthering of the divide! Symbols and rituals are
bridges: that is, they are crutches on the way to god. Jews, Christians, and
even Atheists ought to ask this basic question: how many crutches does a person
need to reach God or the fulfillment of high ethical principles? Circumcision
is a ritual.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The Bible dresses belief in
and thoughts about God and the world in stories, commandments, and
laws. </span></b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Liberal readers, believers
as well, seek what is fundamental and what it means. They do not clutch at the
letter and the word, they search for the spirit of the law. The personification
of this liberal Jewish spirit was, indeed, the Jew Jesus.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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5, 18) he emphasized that he did not want to change a single comma in Jewish
law. However, Jesus wanted to lead that law and its practice back to its
spirit. Orthodox Jews (and Christians) understand the Bible literally because
for them it is God’s word.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Without destroying any bases for belief, one can
regard the matter in this fashion: God inspired certain human beings to utter
this word, they fixed it in the form of letters and then canonized it. But you
can also see it in this fashion: the Bible is the work of human beings. However
you regard it, it is a matter of fact that the biblical narrative about
circumcision – Brit Milah in Jewish, Khita in Islamic – is not as unequivocal
and unbroken as claimed.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The Biblical narrative from the Old Testament
about circumcision can be found in the story of Abraham. In Genesis 17, God
demands, even orders the progenitor to cut off his successors’ foreskins as a
sign of his covenant with the eternal.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">This edict appears to lack any grounding.
However, you can actually
find it in the representation of the (not completed) sacrifice of Isaac
in Genesis 22. This story of Isaac’s sacrifice is the masterly literary
transcription of something that transpired in human history: the transition
from human to animal sacrifice. The basic thought of the sacrifice was to offer
God what one loved most. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Since development usually signifies refinement
through symbolization, the great majority of humanity was satisfied with an
alternative that conserved human beings and that was also a valuable
alternative.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">A member of a rural society
that raised animals would typically sacrifice one of them — also dear and
valuable. The aboriginal thought of the human sacrifice underlies the idea of
circumcision. Circumcision is the substitute for the sacrifice of the body in
toto.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">A piece of the man’s dearest bodily part, needed
for the breed to perpetuate itself, is sacrificed. Subsequent to Isaac’s
non-sacrifice the Bible neither speaks of further exchanges of words between
father and son, or Abraham and his wife Sarah. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Given the intellectual and literary genius of
the Bible poets this lack is unlikely to have been fortuitous, and its message
is easily discernible: sacrifices of one kind or another are not invariably
productive of family peace.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The basic thought appears to say: this custom
leads to quarrels. Even in Abraham’s family. And even Moses, the “greatest
Jewish prophet”, did not circumcise his oldest son as the Bible tells us in a
roundabout way. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">According to Exodus 4, 24-26, the circumcision
was performed belatedly by</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Zippora, Moses’ non-Jewish wife - a matter that
lands us, if we take the
Bible literally, in yet another <i>halachine </i>[Jewish
religious law] absurd problem, for Moses’ direct descendants were not Jews,
because, as cited above, only children born of Jewish mothers or who convert
are Jews.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Incidentally, the Bible
tells us without further ado that Moses’ second wife, as well, was not
Jewish, but a black woman or Ethiopian, a matter that was most displeasing to
Moses’ people.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">In Joshua 5, 2-9, the Bible reveals to us that
the men who wandered around the desert for forty year were not circumcised. No
reason given, but one can and ought to be derived: this custom remained
controversial, and not only during the so-called - that is not actual -
historical occupation of the land that Joshua undertook (around 1200 b.c.), but
until the time of the Bible poets during the era of the second Temple.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">For the writers of the Bible did not only
recount the Biblical myths, they also wove into the text the religious and
social tensions of their time. “Your ought to circumcise the foreskin of your
heart and no longer be obstinate,” it says in Deuteronomy 10, 16, and similarly
in 30, 6.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">The message is unequivocal: circumcision - as a
command, not as a ritual – is purely symbolic, and is not to be taken
literally. The confirmation comes in Jeremiah 4, 4: “Circumcise
yourself for the Lord and remove the foreskin of your hearts.” Which is how we
most unexpectedly arrive at the bridge from the Jewish to the Christian
Testament, to Paul (Romans 2, 25):</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">“Circumcision is useful, if you follow the law;
but if you transgress the law, you will have become uncircumcised despite your
circumcision.” Oughtn’t Jews also be mindful of this variant of Paul’s:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> <b><span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow; mso-shading: yellow;">“</span><span style="background: yellow;">Circumcision is something done to the heart by the
spirit and not by the word.” (Romans 2, 28). Circumcision does not make you
into a Jew, nor fasting laws, which many Jews obey, but obedience to its
spirit, ignored by all but a few. That is something that the great Jewish
Prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah frequently complained about, and the Jewish
Pharisee Paul stands in the immediate tradition. (1 Cor. 19): </span></b></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">“It does not matter whether you are circumcised
or not, but whether you obey God’s laws.” That was not only Paul’s mission, but
also that of the rabbinical Talmudic one in the first century
A.D. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">We know the result. Circumcision? Yes. However,
the Rabbiniate was split. One of their commentary stories has God and Abraham
discuss the pro and con of the Brit Mila, which of course was a reflection of
their internal discussion.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Moreover, it is historically confirmed that
until the second century A.D. converted Jews outside Judea did not need to be
circumcised. They were baptized.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Scholarship is divided on the question of
whether baptism replaced
circumcision – as one might assume. No, baptism is not an unchristian but
an older (and by no means solely) Jewish practice. One ought not to forget that
John the Baptist was a Jew and as a Jew in Judea baptized the Jew Jesus.</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">It was not until Emperor Hadrian’s 130 A.D.
prohibition of circumcision
(an edict that was not intended to be overly strict in its
application) that the custom of circumcision - which, as indicated, was
controversial within Jewry - became an inviolable law. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Yes, so much Jewishness is
part of Christianity and so much Christianity is part of being Jewish. Perhaps
insight into these facts will help to make the circumcision discussion a bit
saner as well as enhance Jewish and Christian self-knowledge, self-reflection
and self-determination, leading to a Jewish-Christian dialogue of informed
believers. Foreskin or not? Jewry has more to offer than that.</span></b><b><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></b></div>
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Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_ 06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf</span></a></span></b><span style="background: lime; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> <b>condemned a German physician for violating
the German constitution’s guarantee of the inviolability of a person for having
circumcised - it was a four year old Muslim boy. But the judge did
not pronounce a guilty verdict nor administer punishment since the physician
was practicing within a tradition and was unaware of the conflict of those
constitutional guarantees with those guaranteeing freedom of religion, in this <span style="mso-shading: yellow;">instance the Abrahamic religious practices of
Brit </span></b></span><b><span style="background: lime; color: #000066; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Milah</span></b><span style="background: lime; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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the Jewish and Islamic religious in Germany and the German legal authorities
that continues to this day. The chief Israeli Rabbi went to Germany
and asserted that the prohibition of the Brit Mila constituted a prohibition of
the fundament of Jewish identity and German Jews therefore would have to leave
the country. The Bundestag, the German parliament, responded quickly to calls
from the two dominant parties, Christian and Social Democrats, to pass a
resolution, endorsed by Chancellor Angele Merkel, in favor of an exception for
the practice</span></b><span style="background: lime; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Michael
Wolffsohn</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> (17 May 1947–) is an Israeli-born German historian.
Wolffsohn was born in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv" target="_blank" title="Tel Aviv"><span style="color: blue;">Tel Aviv</span></a>,
in what was then the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine" target="_blank" title="British
Mandate of Palestine"><span style="color: blue;">British Mandate of Palestine</span></a> and today is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" target="_blank" title="Israel"><span style="color: blue;">Israel</span></a>. His parents were German Jews who fled in
1939.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">In 1954, the Wolffsohns moved to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany" target="_blank" title="Germany"><span style="color: blue;">Germany</span></a>, settling in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Berlin" target="_blank" title="West Berlin"><span style="color: blue;">West Berlin</span></a>. In 1966,
Wolffsohn began his studies at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_University_of_Berlin" target="_blank" title="Free
University of Berlin"><span style="color: blue;">Free
University of Berlin</span></a>, obtaining a PhD in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History" target="_blank" title="History"><span style="color: blue;">History</span></a> in 1975. From 1967 to 1970,
Wolffsohn served in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Defence_Forces" target="_blank" title="Israeli Defence Forces"><span style="color: blue;">Israeli Defence Forces</span></a>.
From 1975 until 1980, Wolffsohn taught at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saarland_University" target="_blank" title="Saarland
University"><span style="color: blue;">University
of the Saarland</span></a>. Since 1981, Wolffsohn has served as a professor at
the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr_University_Munich" target="_blank" title="Bundeswehr University Munich"><span style="color: blue;">Bundeswehr
University Munich</span></a> as a professor in Contemporary History. His
major interests are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel" target="_blank" title="History
of Israel"><span style="color: blue;">Israeli
history</span></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_relations" target="_blank" title="International relations"><span style="color: blue;">international
relations</span></a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany" target="_blank" title="History
of the Jews in Germany"><span style="color: blue;">German Jewish history</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Wolffsohn has argued in favor of German <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism" target="_blank" title="Patriotism"><span style="color: blue;">patriotism</span></a> and has
claimed that the crimes of National Socialism represent no reason why modern
Germans cannot be proud of their country. In his book <i>Eternal Guilt?</i> (1993),
he argued against the idea of Germans having to bear guilt for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust" target="_blank" title="The Holocaust"><span style="color: blue;">the Holocaust</span></a> for
all time.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Wolffsohn has strongly supported <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" target="_blank" title="Israel"><span style="color: blue;">Israel</span></a> and has argued for greater Western
understanding and support of the Jewish state in face of what Wolffsohn regards
as fanatical <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_fundamentalism" target="_blank" title="Islamic
fundamentalism"><span style="color: blue;">Islamic extremism</span></a>. Likewise, Wolffsohn has
supported the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror" target="_blank" title="War on Terror"><span style="color: blue;">War on Terror</span></a> and
the administration of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush" target="_blank" title="George
W. Bush"><span style="color: blue;">George W. Bush</span></a>. In May 2005, he was a leading
critic of the chairman of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany" target="_blank" title="Social
Democratic Party of Germany"><span style="color: blue;">Social Democratic Party of Germany</span></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_M%C3%BCntefering" target="_blank" title="Franz
Müntefering"><span style="color: blue;">Franz
Müntefering</span></a>, who compared a group of American capitalists attempting
to purchase a German company to a “plague of locusts”. Wolffsohn noted that the
capitalists in question were Jewish, and that the Nazis had often compared Jews
to locusts, and labeled Müntefering an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semite" target="_blank" title="Anti-Semite"><span style="color: blue;">anti-Semite</span></a>. Wolffsohn
wrote that as a grandson of Holocaust survivors, he was grateful to the
Americans for liberating his grandparents and that as a German Jew, he felt
deep shame over increasing German <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Americanism" target="_blank" title="Anti-Americanism"><span style="color: blue;">anti-Americanism</span></a>.
More recently, Wolffsohn has been a leading critic of the novelist <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Grass" target="_blank" title="Günter Grass"><span style="color: blue;">Günter Grass</span></a> over
his disclosure about his membership in the Waffen-SS during <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II" target="_blank" title="World
War II"><span style="color: blue;">World War II</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Wolffsohn&action=edit&section=1&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro" target="_blank" title="Edit section: Work"><span style="color: blue;">edit</span></a>]Work<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"></span></span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Meine Juden—eure Juden</i>, Piper
1997 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3492036376" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-492-03637-6</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Die Deutschland Akte: Juden und Deutsche
in Ost und West : Tatsachen und Legenden</i>, Ed. Ferenczy bei Bruckmann
1995 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3765427306" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-7654-2730-6</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Frieden jetzt?: Nahost im Umbruch</i>,
Ed. Ferenczy bei Bruckmann <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3765427071" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-7654-2707-1</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Eternal Guilt?: Forty Years of
German-Jewish Relations</i>, Columbia University Press 1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0231082746" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 0-231-08274-6</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Verwirrtes Deutschland?: Provokative
Zwischenberufe eines deutschjüdischen Patrioten</i>, Ed. Frenczy bei Bruckmann
1993 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3765427063" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-7654-2706-3</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Wem gehört das Heilige Land?: Die Wurzeln
des Streits zwischen Juden und Arabern</i>, C. Bertelsmann 1992 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3570016226" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-570-01622-6</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Spanien, Deutschland und die
"Jüdische Weltmacht": über Moral, Realpolitik und
Vergangenheitsbewältigung</i>, C. Bertelsmann <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3570003558" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-570-00355-8</span></a>.</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 1.2pt; mso-line-height-alt: 14.4pt;">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Keine Angst vor Deutschland!,</i> Straube
1990 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3927491322" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-927491-32-2</span></a>.</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 1.2pt; mso-line-height-alt: 14.4pt;">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Ewige Schuld? : 40 Jahre
deutsch-juedisch-israelische Beziehungen</i>, Muenchen : Piper, 1989<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3492109853" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-492-10985-3</span></a>.</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 1.2pt; mso-line-height-alt: 14.4pt;">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Israel : polity, society, economy,
1882-1986 : an introductory handbook</i>, Atlantic Highlands, NJ :
Humanities Press International, 1987 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0391035401" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 0-391-03540-1</span></a>.</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-bottom: 1.2pt; mso-line-height-alt: 14.4pt;">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>West Germany's Foreign Policy in the Era
of Brandt and Schmidt, 1969-1982: An Introduction</i>, Peter Lang Publishing
1986 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/382048616X" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-8204-8616-X</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>German-Saudi Arabian Arms Deals 1936-1939
and 1981-1985 : with an essay on West Germany’s Jews</i>, Frankfurt am
Main : P. Lang, 1985, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3820474900" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-8204-7490-0</span></a>.</span></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="background: yellow; color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;">§ <i>Die Debatte über den Kalten Krieg:
Politische Konjunkturen, historisch-politische Analysen</i>, Leske + Budrich
1982 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/3810003689" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">ISBN 3-8100-0368-9</span></a>.</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 16.0pt;"></span></b></div>
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Eine Sammlung des bürokratischen Schunds aus der Gruppe <span style="font-family: arial;"> </span><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.de/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html" moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de</a><br />
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">1]] Joerg Gehrmann,</b><br />
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<span style="background-color: lime;">3\] Sommer, Maria, die auch als Dr. Jur. Maria Roloff auftritt</span><br />
<span style="background-color: lime;">"Dr.Maria Sommer" <tux go4more.de="go4more.de">,</tux></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: lime;">"Dr.jur.Maria Roloff" <roloff-maria onlinehome.de="onlinehome.de"></roloff-maria></span><br />
<span style="background-color: lime;">Mize Rolof <mi-roloff sofort-surf.de="sofort-surf.de">; </mi-roloff></span><br />
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<span style="color: #1f497d;">ehr geehrte Kollegin Sommer,<br />Ihren unten zitierten Artikel werden wir in der<br />Liste "Psychotherapeuten" nicht veröffentlichen,<br />da er nicht den Regeln der Liste entspricht.<br />Vielleicht können Sie den Inhalt sachlicher gestalten.<br />Beste Grüße<br />Gerd Böttcher.<br />redaktion@bbpp.org</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr.Maria Sommer [<a href="mailto:tux@go4more.de" rel="nofollow" style="color: #1e66ae; outline: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">mailto:tux@go4more.de</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br /><b>Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 29. August 2012 09:56<br /><b>An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bbpp@bbpp.de" rel="nofollow" style="color: #1e66ae; outline: 0px; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">p<span style="color: #1f497d;">sychotherapeuten</span>@<span style="color: #1f497d;">yahoogroups.de</span></a><br /><b>Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Es gibt im Internet ein Monster, das sich Psychophysiker oder Mikorollmops nennt</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 18pt;">Es gibt im Internet ein Monster, das sich Psychophysiker oder Mikorollmops nennt,</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">und viele Seiten in hässlich farbigem Hintergrund vollmüllt,</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">indem es gegen die Beschneidung wettert.</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 18pt;">Dem Hören nach handelt es sich um einen emigrierten Deutsch-Amerikaner,</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">der die alte deutsche Untugend weiter pflegt,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />am deutschen Wesen andere Kulturen zu messen.</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 18pt;">Wo bleiben die erwachsenen Juden, die ihre Eltern anklagen,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />sie vor der Beschneidung nicht bewahrt zu haben?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />Diese hätten allein das Recht dazu und das Recht für sich.<br />Stattdessen singen sie ein Lob auf ihren uralten Brauch, der ihren Bund besiegelt.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 18pt;">Aber warum muß sich so ein Psychophysiker oder Mikorollmops ungefragt einmischen ?</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Das ist die eigentlich psychologische Frage!</span><span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></div>
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Sabine Webster, Sommer, Goldgrube, etc. etc.<br />
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# 1 <span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b> </b></span><span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">THE JOERG
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Anpoebeln und
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Auf “hohen
Niveau”!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">A short while back I heard from Joerg Gehrmann,
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Unlikely as anything of the kind happening among
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Diskussion um Beschneidung
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">In dem Brief
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der Bitte an, keine gesetzliche Lösung ohne eine gründliche Sichtung<br />
der Forschungsergebnisse über mögliche somatische und psychische Folgen der
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Es
ist schon verwunderlich, wie sich ein Verbandsvorsitzender im Namen
seiner ungefragten Mitglieder in politische Diskussionen einmischt</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Georgia, serif;"> </span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Georgia, serif;">und das im
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Jörg
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Dr.Jörg
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jgehrmann@online.de<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #666666; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:jgehrmann@online.de?subject=AW%3A%20DPtV%3A%20Diskussion%20um%20Beschneidung%20von%20Jungen" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae;">Antworten an <b>Absender</b></span></a> | <a href="mailto:Psychoanalyse@yahoogroups.de?subject=AW%3A%20DPtV%3A%20Diskussion%20um%20Beschneidung%20von%20Jungen" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae;">Antworten an <b>Group</b></span></a> | <a href="http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/Psychoanalyse/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbHRicGc2BF9TAzk3NDkwNDU0BGdycElkAzI1NDk3NDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMyMDQ4NjM4OTAwBG1zZ0lkAzY1MjMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQzMzc3NDYz?act=reply&messageNum=6523" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae;">Antworten <b>Auf der Website</b></span></a> | <a href="http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/Psychoanalyse/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlc3EzMmM2BF9TAzk3NDkwNDU0BGdycElkAzI1NDk3NDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMyMDQ4NjM4OTAwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0MzM3NzQ2Mw--" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: #1e66ae;">Neues Thema</span></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #666666; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/Psychoanalyse/message/6523;_ylc=X3oDMTM0dm5jY3RzBF9TAzk3NDkwNDU0BGdycElkAzI1NDk3NDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMyMDQ4NjM4OTAwBG1zZ0lkAzY1MjMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQzMzc3NDYzBHRwY0lkAzY1MjM-" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae;">Beiträge zu diesem Thema</span></a> (<b>1</b>)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">nor anything else during the five years I participated
I volunteered to take down my outtake from the few interesting matters that
ought to be part of the circumcision discussion as they are published at <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">if that group shared their thinking with the
world. In all other respects,<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">here are quotes, in their
entirety from the Hinterhofler Joerg Gehrmann</span></b></span><span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b>:<o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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fromMICHAEL ROLOFF Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute
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Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:31:42 +0200<o:p></o:p></div>
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gehrmann
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'Michael Roloff' <mikerol69 yahoo.com="yahoo.com"><o:p></o:p></mikerol69></div>
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Mikerol, der wahnhaft-pathologische Retter der Vorhäute<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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<a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.de/">PSYCHOANALYTIC
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">fromMICHAEL
ROLOFF Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute and Society<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">Unter diesem
Titel verkauft Michael Roloff seine Lügengeschichten.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Empfehlung von Mitgliedern der Mailgruppe wird erwogen,<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;">Der
Schwachsinn, den Roloff veröffentlicht, hat mit Psychoanalyse gar nichts zu tun.<u1:p></u1:p>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;"><u1:p> </u1:p>Dr. Jörg Gehrmann<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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AW: AW: THE GERMAN
CIRCUMCSION DISPUTE
http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html<o:p></o:p></div>
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Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:45:06
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gehrmann
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'Psycho Physiker'
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Lieber Psycho Physiker,<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">indem Sie diese Liste öffentlich
verbreiten und sie nicht<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">öffentlich verbreiteten Adressen
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dr.
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AW: AW: AW: THE GERMAN
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http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html<o:p></o:p></div>
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Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:34:34
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gehrmann
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Zurueck wegen unzumutbar niedrigem
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<b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Psycho Physiker
[mailto:psycho.physiker@gmail.com] <br />
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 28. August 2012 04:39<br />
<b>An:</b> gehrmann<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: AW: THE GERMAN CIRCUMCSION DISPUTE
http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b>Lieber
Gehrmann,<br />
also genau wie ich mir es dachte,<br />
Sie geben meine Liste dem Gerd'<br />
und der verbreitet seinen Mist!<br />
Ich werd die Berliner Blätter Liste<br />
jetzt verwenden, in der Zwischenzeit <br />
hab wohl die Adressen<br />
aller die sich da mal gemuckt haben.<br />
<br />
Ansonst, a po po "Blähungen", ja was<br />
kann ein armer Pufferfisch sonst wohl?<br />
Wären die Berliner Blätter nicht so kleinlich<br />
und bureaukratisch, hätten bei mir mitgemacht,<br />
vieleicht wären' s mehr als die bisher<br />
1,500 hits des Achivs über diese interessanten<br />
und heiklen Flashpoint. Get a life.<br />
xx michael r.<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:44:52
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gehrmann
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'Michael Roloff'
<mikerol69 yahoo.com="yahoo.com"><o:p></o:p></mikerol69></div>
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'Psycho Physiker'
<psycho .physiker=".physiker" gmail.com="gmail.com">, 'michael roloff'
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sehr
geehrter Herr Michael Roloff <br />
alias Psycho Physiker und Mikerol usw.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">löschen
Sie mich bitte aus Ihrem Verteiler.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Ihre
Argumente sind unzumutbar für einen durchschnittlich denkenden Menschen.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Daß
Sie sich an jede Veröffentlichung dranhängen, um Ihre mageren Gedanken
schulmeisterlich <u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">und
als Massenmail zu verbreiten, lässt mich an Ihnen zweifeln.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dr.Jörg Gehrmann<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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dümmlicher Spam von einem feigen Absender,<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">obwohl
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<b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> getreuer
korreptitor [mailto:getreuer.korreptitor@gmail.com] <br />
<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 2. September 2012 23:08<br />
<b>An:</b> gehrmann<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: GErmanist/ Philosopher Luedkenhaus at the NZZ site<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b>T'ja, Lieber Jörg Gehrmann,<br />
wie man im KZ sagte, 'lieber Mager Suppe<br />
anstatt nichts als Wasser.' Sie haben<br />
ausser einem Link ja nischt zu der Diskussion'<br />
beigetragen! Und ihren werten Namen!<br />
Ihre Kunst zu beleidigen, das einste<br />
was Sie scheinbar koennen, ist wohl auch<br />
nicht gerade reichhaltig? Und Ihr Meister<br />
Boettcher entpuppt sich dann als jemand<br />
der die Familie alles mit ihren Sprossen<br />
tun laesst. Und das von einem Pschologen!<br />
Ich schick den Dackel auf Jagd, dass er <br />
alles Gehrmannhaftes vertreibt.<br />
Ihr. <br />
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sehr
geehrter Herr Roloff,<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">verbreiten
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Seit
Sie wegen Datendiebstahls als Mitglied entfernt werden mussten,<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ist
eine intensive Diskussion auf hohem Niveau zustande gekommen.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Für
die Weitergabe dieser Mails habe ich die Erlaubnis der Redaktion.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mit
von Ihnen sehr enttäuschten Grüßen<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">erwarte
ich keine Antwort, da Ihr Gehirn ja immer nur dasselbe antworten kann.<br />
Vermutlich unheilbar.<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de
[mailto:psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>bbpp<br />
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 28. September 2012 10:07<br />
<b>An:</b> psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> "Psychotherapeuten" Beschneidung: Vorschläge stoßen
auf Widerstand<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Zurück an den Lügenbaron, der in
Leserbriefen Namen fälscht<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Von</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> michael lügenbaron
roloff [mailto:mikerol@gmail.com] <br />
<b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 29. September 2012 04:47<br />
<b>An:</b> gehrmann<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Roloffs Lügenkarussel<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b>Sie
brauchen die</b><b> </b><b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">"intensive
Diskussion auf hohem Niveau</span></b><b> </b><b>"</b> <b>[</b><b>was unglaublicherisches <br />
kann man sich bei diesem Gros von Fussvolk kaum vorstellen, aber <br />
auch Affen hinterlassen Spuren]<span style="color: #1f497d;"> <span style="background: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow;">Affen sind immerhin
intelligenter und ehrlicher als Roloff</span></span><br />
nur der Öffentlichkeit preisgeben und ich entferne<br />
meinen Auszug. Was fällt ihnen ein, wenn ich so höflich<br />
bin auch Boetter von meinen an den Ethikrat übergebenen<br />
Gedanken zu informieren, dann etwas anderes an die Leute zu<br />
schicken? Denen haben Sie und Boettcher meine Meinung schön bewiesen!<br />
Danke. <br />
Dass Herr Boettcher nicht auf den Schwanz eine Horshoe<br />
Crab an der Ostsee Strand tritt.<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<b>"Bürokratischer Schunds der Gruppe
psychotherapeutenyahoogroups.de"<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<b>Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:17:47 +0200<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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Sehr geehrter Herr Michael Roloff alias
Psycho.Physiker, mikerol usw.,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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hinsichtlich Ihrer Rund-Mail an sehr viele Empfänger vom <span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Montag, 8. Oktober
2012 03:17</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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</b>Ihr Umgang mit Daten und Mailadressen
ist nicht sehr diskret und verletzt für viele die Diskretion.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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Darauf wurden Sie mehrfach aufmerksam gemacht.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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Darüber hinaus wurden Sie öffentlich der FÄLSCHUNG von Mails in Leserbriefen
von Zeitungen beschuldigt, indem Sie u.a. mit meinem Nammen oder dem von Herrn
Böttcher Aussagen veröffentlichten, die Sie erfunden oder völlig entstellt
haben..<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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Aus den Maillisten der "Berliner Blätter für Psychoanalyse und
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wurden Sie ausgeschlossen, weil Sie mehrfach
Urheberrechte verletzten, obwohl in jeder Mail im Nachspann auf folgende Regeln
hingewiesen wurde: <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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<i><span style="font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">"Dies ist eine GESCHLOSSENE
Liste. Die Weiterverbreitung von Mailinhalten ist nur mit Zustimmung der
Autoren und der Redaktion erlaubt. Hier veröffentlichte Kommentare und
Zuschriften sind von den jeweiligen Autoren zu vertreten und repräsentieren
nicht immer die Meinung der „Berliner Blätter“ Für zu veröffentlichende Mails
hat der Absender Urheberrechte von Autoren und Verlagen zu beachten und ist für
Verletzungen dieser Rechte allein verantwortlich. Der Moderator behält sich
vor, nicht geeignete Sendungen von der Verteilung auszuschliessen. Das gilt
besonders für Mails mit beleidigenden und andere Meinungen abwertenden
Inhalten."<br />
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</span></i>Diese Regeln hat der Herausgeber der
"Berliner Blätter" und Moderator der geschlossenen Maillisten, Gerd
Böttcher, mehrfach damit begründet, dass in geschlossenen Listen auch noch
unausgereifte Gedanken entworfen und diskutiert werden können und sollen, die
noch nicht über den fachinternen Kreis hinaus veröffentlichungsreif sind. <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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die Mailgruppe mit über 1000 Mitgliedern zu provozieren. So z.B.:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #555555; font-family: Georgia, serif;">Thursday,
September 27, 2012<a href="http://draft.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=1028192471601452787" name="1927711325525910605"></a><br />
</span><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.de/2012/09/burokratischer-schunds-der-gruppe.html">Bürokratischer
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aus der Gruppe <a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.de/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html">psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de</a><u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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</span></span><span class="fn"><span style="color: #555555; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> POLITICO</span></span><span style="color: #555555; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<pre><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Mit dieser Sammlung verletzen Sie erneut das Urheberrecht, wenn Sie diese auf Ihren Webseiten veröffentlichen..<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Statt inhaltlich differenzierter Argumente liefern Sie immer mehr anwachsende Link- und Zitatsammlungen, die das Lesen Ihrer Webseiten und Mails oft zur Begegnung mit einem farblichen und graphischen Ungeheuer werden lassen. (Siehe auch Ihre Mail unten, auf die ich jetzt anworte)<u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">What puzzles me about Gehrmann’s accusations is that I falsified a letter or my identity. At one time I thought that Boettcher’s quote of something unusually stupid actually was his, and I corrected that as soon as he asked me to. I have several e-mail identities that are linked to various blogs of mine. My offer to take down the four excerpts, including my own comments at</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> </span><b><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html</a></b><o:p></o:p></pre>
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group needs do is publish its own pertinent selection.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: cyan;">2] SABINE WEBSTER </span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #333333; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">“Die Tabuisierung jeglichen Vergleichs von
männlicher mit weiblicher Genitalverstümmelung ist der große Skandal der
Debatte. In beiden Fällen wird der empfindsamste und erogenste Teil des
menschlichen Körpers amputiert oder schwer beschädigt. In beiden Fällen geht es
in erster Linie um die Beschneidung menschlicher Sexualität. AND DONT FORGET
THE ARCHIVE!!! </span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #3b5998; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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On 10/12/2012 2:19 PM, Sabine Webster wrote:<span class="StyleBerlingAntiqua"><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: red; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Schwachsinn, was Du da in die Welt schreibst.
Lauter persönliche Vorurteile. Du hast die empirische Arbeit nicht gelesen, in
der über Frauen berichtet wird, die sexuelle Erfahrungen mit beschnittenen und
unbeschnittenen Männern hatten. Sie bevorzugten mehrheitlich zukünftig
beschnittene Männer. Übrigens: Dein "Archiv" mit z.T.gestohlenem
Material ist wissenschaftlich völlig unbrauchbar. Ich kann es keinem empfehlen.
Die dümmliche Sammlung von zusammengewürfelten Texten ist nicht einmal
für eine Propagandaschrift brauchbar. Wer liest denn das Zeug? Lass mich bitte
zukünftig in Ruhe!!!<u1:p></u1:p>”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Alter Viagra brauchen weil so unempfindliche. Auch das hat nichts mit
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Empfehle dringlichsts Einsicht in</span></b><br />
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</span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;">Ein Archiv ist eine Sammlung, hat
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<b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> michael roloff [<a href="mailto:michael.roloff@gmail.com"><span style="color: blue;">mailto:michael.roloff@gmail.com</span></a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 12. Oktober 2012 20:17<br />
<b>An:</b> Sabine Webster<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: Beim Dackel hat das Pinkeln wenigstens einen Sinn</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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On 10/11/2012 12:26 AM, Sabine Webster wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Hallo
Michael,</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 24.0pt;">warum
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ich
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">länger
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Und
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<i><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 16.0pt;">"Vielleicht helfen Dir freundliche
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Sabine
Webster</span><o:p></o:p><br />
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<span style="color: red;"><b><u>ANONYMITAETEN DER GRUPPE</u></b></span><br />
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<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:28:02 +0200</td></tr>
<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td>News-Message <<b>news-message@sofortstart.de</b>></td></tr>
<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th><td><krimi seattle.com="seattle.com"></krimi></td></tr>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: #333333; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Um
den Mord an Uwe Barschel? Ich dachte, der hätte sich selbst getötet?
Wie wir wissen: Heute vor 25 Jahren, am 11.10.1987 wurde </span></b><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: navy; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Barschel" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: navy;">Uwe Barschel</span></a></span></b><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: #333333; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">
im Hotel Beau Rivage in Genf tot aufgefunden, wenige Tage nach seiner
"Ich gebe Ihnen mein Ehrenwort"-Rede, dort hin gefahren um sich mit
einen geheimnisvollenInformanten zu treffen, der sich </span></b><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: red; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 24.0pt;">"Roloff"</span></b><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: #333333; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">
nannte. Und dann wurder er vom Stern-Reportern "gefunden".Diese hatten
schöne Schwarz-Weiß-Fotos vom toten Barschel in der Badewanne gemacht,
zum Glück muss man ja sagen, weil sämtliche Polizeibilder vom Tatort
Hotelzimmer ja später nichts wurden.</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: #333333; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">joerg gehrmann als "pscho-kauz"!!</span></b></div>
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<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td>psycho-kauz <psycho -kauz="-kauz" mikerol.dbpp.net="mikerol.dbpp.net"></psycho></td></tr>
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<b>Goldgrube <goldgrube majorgoldy.de="majorgoldy.de"></goldgrube></b></div>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2012 03:36<br />
<b>An:</b> Goldgrube<br />
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: gollj byhoik vyuppo guest bool<o:p></o:p></div>
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<pre><b>Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Oktober 2012 07:01<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>An: michael roloff [<a href="mailto:michael.roloff@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">michael.roloff@gmail.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<pre><b>In Finnish, the month is called maaliskuu, which is believed to originate<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>from maallinen kuu, meaning earthy month, because during maaliskuu, earth<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>finally becomes visible under the snow (other etymological theories have<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>however been put forward). In Ukrainian, the month is called<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>§Ò§Ö§â§Ö§Ù§Ö§ß§î, meaning birch tree. Historical names for March include the<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>Saxon Lentmonat, named after the March equinox and gradual lengthening of<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>days, and the eventual namesake of Lent. Saxons also called March Rhed-monat<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>or Hreth-monath (deriving from their goddess Rhedam/Hreth), and Angles<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
<pre><b>called it Hyld-monath. In Slovene, the traditional name is su0”8ec, meaning<o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Michael Roloff [<a href="mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:mikerol69@yahoo.com</a>]
<b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 30. September 2012 19:45
<b>An:</b> pschoredakt; PSYCHOKRAUT; J.S.Bielicki; Zvi Lothane; gehrmann; Karl-Josef Pazzini; <a href="mailto:Fink.Pilgram@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">Fink.Pilgram@t-online.de</a>; <a href="mailto:tolle13@online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">tolle13@online.de</a>; Klaus Augustin; <a href="mailto:praxismzw@web.de" moz-do-not-send="true">praxismzw@web.de</a>; Walter Hofmann; <a href="mailto:Kristina.Siever@gmx.de" moz-do-not-send="true">Kristina.Siever@gmx.de</a>; Nathalie Georges; Dr. F. R. Deister; J. Thorwart; Katharina Roepcke; ""Regine Posé""; <a href="mailto:mbfloeter@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">mbfloeter@t-online.de</a>; <a href="mailto:tux@go4more.de" moz-do-not-send="true">tux@go4more.de</a>; <a href="mailto:Doebert.j@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">Doebert.j@t-online.de</a>; <a href="mailto:dr.jungnickel@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">dr.jungnickel@t-online.de</a>; <a href="mailto:praxis@psychotherapie-liedtke.de" moz-do-not-send="true">praxis@psychotherapie-liedtke.de</a>; <a href="mailto:kunz@w-4.de" moz-do-not-send="true">kunz@w-4.de</a>; <a href="mailto:lienan1985@yahoo.de" moz-do-not-send="true">lienan1985@yahoo.de</a>; <a href="mailto:KarloGerstner@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send="true">KarloGerstner@t-online.de</a>;
Joachim Burkart; Markus Brunner; Dirk Zschocke; Annette Kreuz Consulta;
Christa von Bismarck; Dipl.-Ing. Christine Karrasch; Praxis Irene
Roski; Ingo Jungclaussen; HEINRICH BERTRAM; Monika Kaiser
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Gehrmann's unendliche e-mails auch unter haufenweise Pseudonyme</span></div>
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<tr><td>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:40:42 +0200</td></tr>
<tr><td>roll-off <roll -off="-off" onlinehome.de="onlinehome.de"></roll></td></tr>
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<span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><b>Ihr Geist ist wohl nur auf die Vorhaut beschränkt.</b></span><b style="font-size: 18pt;">Mehr haben Sie in ihren Leserbriefen nicht zu bieten, </b><b style="font-size: 18pt;">ausser dem unappetitlichen Rattenschwanz von Handkezusammengelesenen Links, </b><b style="font-size: 18pt;">mit dem Sie jedem Leser auf die Nerven gehen.</b></div>
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<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td><b>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:27:13 +0200</b></td></tr>
<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td><b>Prof.Dr.Elke Wallrat <rat9 online.de="online.de"></rat9></b></td></tr>
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<b>Kennen Ihr schon den realistischen Kriminalfall:<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<b><a href="http://www.mikerol.dbpp.net/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mikerol.dbpp.net</a> ?<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:58:16 +0200</td></tr>
<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td>Mize Rolof <mi -roloff="-roloff" sofort-surf.de="sofort-surf.de"></mi></td></tr>
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<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td><b>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:06:44 +0200</b></td></tr>
<tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td><b><redaktion bbpp.org="bbpp.org"></redaktion></b></td></tr>
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<b>Sehr geehrter Herr Roloff,<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<b>da Sie ja, wie ich aus Ihrer Korrespondenz mit anderen entnehme,<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">die unauffindebare angebliche dr, jura maria roloff</b></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman , serif', serif;">Ja ich halte es mit Gerd Boettchers Meinung
“Wo bleiben die erwachsenen Juden,
die
ihre Eltern anklagen, sie vor der Beschneidung nicht bewahrt zu haben?
Diese hätten allein das Recht dazu und das Recht für sich.
Statt dessen singen sie ein Lob auf ihren uralten Brauch,
der ihren Bund besiegelt.” ,
Psychologischer Psychotherapeut
Lehrtherapeut und Supervisor bei der Berliner Akademie für Psychotherapie
Präsident der Gesellschaft zur Förderung der kulinarischen Künste (GFKK)
Herausgeber der „Berliner Blätter für Psychoanalyse und Psychotherapie“</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Sie werden immer unglaubwürdiger und leugnen unverschämt ihren verlogenen Missbrauch.
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>whoever you are. if you provide me with proof of your status as a member of the german
bar i would certainly oblige you. however, so far there is no trace of your having any such standing.
i never mis-use or falsify my name, although i have
different identities for my various blogs.
i.e. summa politico for the political blog
psycho.physiker for the psychoanalytic blog
getreuer korreptitor for my arts blog
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On 10/3/2012 2:48 AM, Dr.Maria Roloff wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><i>"On 9/29/2012 2:48 AM, Dr.jur.Maria Roloff wrote:</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<pre><b><span style="color: #000066;">Unfortunately it is / has been circumcision that has MADE for no end of anti-semitic sentiments. Freud found that it was the chief reason for unconscious anti-Semitism. And the myths surrounding it are at the core of the “blood libel.” Thus, It's time to eliminate the Brit Milah because if that is the chief reason<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre><b><span style="color: #000066;"> for being anti-Semitic or anti-Abrahamic [Islam too practices the rite] then why hang on to this left-over of human sacrifice? that traumatizesthe child, cutting off 5,000 nerves, that is the equivalent of female circumcision in the sense that it eliminates everything but the clitoris,and only serves the Ultra Orthodox to maintain their power? After all, reform Judaism sought to eliminate the rite in the 19th century, and Jewish identity depends on being born by a Jewish mother, or converting. Here a link to an archive of the entire German<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre><b><span style="color: #000066;"> and then some debate, note especially Michael Wolffsohn's two pieces . Circumcision has been controversial also within Jewry forever. </span></b><b><o:p></o:p></b></pre>
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-16260725820676248602012-09-22T16:44:00.002-07:002012-09-22T16:44:39.159-07:00LETTER TO THE NY TIMES REGARDING THEIR CIRCUMCISION COVERAGE<br />
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<big><b><big><span style="font-size: medium;">I am sorry to have to tell you
that I find the NY Times coverage of the ongoing German circumcision <a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html">the-circumcision-debate-links</a> controversy,in the half a dozen stories by three of your intrepids, to
be a thoroughly sorry affair.</span><br />
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<u style="font-size: large;">Jack Ewing </u><br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/world/europe/circumcision-debate-in-europe-reflects-deeper-tensions.html?_r=1&hpw" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/world/europe/circumcision-debate-in-europe-reflects-deeper-tensions.html?_r=1&hpw</a>
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repeats what </span><u style="font-size: large;">Judy Dempsey</u><br />
<a href="http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/germany-making-jews-feel-unwelcome/" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/germany-making-jews-feel-unwelcome/</a><br />
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repeats of the several stories filed by </span><u style="font-size: large;">Melissa Eddy</u><span style="font-size: medium;">,
[the latest of five first] </span><br />
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/world/europe/berlin-officials-clarify-circumcision-guidelines.html" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/world/europe/berlin-officials-clarify-circumcision-guidelines.html</a>
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/world/europe/in-germany-ruling-over-circumcision-sows-anxiety-and-confusion.html" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/world/europe/in-germany-ruling-over-circumcision-sows-anxiety-and-confusion.html</a><br />
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<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E7D6173FF937A25754C0A9649D8B63" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E7D6173FF937A25754C0A9649D8B63</a><br />
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Ewing puts the emphasis on the sorry Rabbi who four times was reported for violating the German
fundamental law. Dempsey's once more over lightly ends with the admonition</span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;">
that Germany ought to be the last country to antagonize its
Jews. Melissa got the human angle rolling
by commiserating with a Turkish family that could not get their son
mutilated.</span><br />
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But not a one of these intrepids</span><br />
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1] reports on the controversy within the Jewish community
itself</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">not only in this instance, but going back thousands of years</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">or, say, in the 19th century</span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></big></b></big><b><div>
"The polemics favoring direct-contact oral suction are
relatively new (mid-1800s), typically attributed to a reaction
to the Reform Movement's efforts to abolish Jewish practices
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Early Reformers certainly saw metzitzah (and circumcision)
as barbaric. The "Orthodox establishment" reacted quite
strongly, upholding the practice of metzitzah specifically
with the direct oral contact method (MBP), to take the
strongest stand against the destruction of Judaism as they
knew it <a href="http://www.thejewishweek.com/editorial-opinion/opinion/metzitzah-changes-require-rabbinic-leadership" target="_blank">http://www.thejewishweek.com/editorial-opinion/opinion/metzitzah-changes-require-rabbinic-leadership</a></div>
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That is, none of these </span>unworthies<span style="font-size: medium;"> queries history.</span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;">
</span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;">2] Not one describes what a
circumcision at 8 days extra-uterine entails. Lots of videos on line
with screeching babies. Five thousand of the most sensitive nerves
severed, a trauma that can nr re-covered in analysis, etc. etc. No end
of information on line.</span></big></b></big></span></big></div>
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<big><span style="font-family: courier new, monospace;"><big><b><big style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-size: medium;">3] Not one of the reporters asks what "religious freedom"
actually entails -</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">might I with my band of hungry New Guinea Headhunter [to whom
my second analyst, the deceased also anthropologist Robert
Stoller introduced me] relocate to the Black Forest and resume our banned ways? What about my
heathens from the </span><i style="font-size: large;">Luenebecker Heide</i><span style="font-size: medium;">, their druid practices,
might they be allowed to come out of hiding?; or my Protestant
forebears that used to burn witches - I have a slew of ladies for the burning! - That is, none of them question,
investigate what might be or not be permissible under the
mantle of religion. </span><br />
<br /><span style="font-size: medium;">4] Not a one queries the origin of circumcision - the equally
gruesome rite of sacrifice of the first born son, a matter that then
became</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">his castration, the origins that is of what became the Oedipus
complex as it mixed with generational succession in those hoary </span><span style="font-size: medium;">Pleistocene ? times.
Or the fact that Freud found circumcision to be the chief reason for
unconscious anti-semitism. Castration anxiety!</span><br />
<br /><span style="font-size: medium;">5] Not one of the reporters bother to wonder why the
functionaries of all the major German political parties - CDU/CSU; SPD; FDP
and</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">the "GREENS" instantly support the position of what I call the Abrahamish Orthodoxy over and above adherence to the German
fundamental</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">law's call for the inviolability of a human beings physical
well being. - The Left Party seems not to have take a position; the only
party - it is</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">only in the Berlin government so far but with so much
hypocrisy is bound to suppress the 5% threshold come the next
parliamentary elections - the anarchist </span>Piraten Partei<span style="font-size: medium;"> calls a
spade a spade without falling prey to politically correct</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">fearfulness.
Nor do the wonder at why the Ultra-Orthodox are carrying the day, also
from Israel, not that Israeli interference in the foreign affairs or
other countries is anything especially unusual, but not welcomed
necessarily by the German Jewish community.</span><br />
<br /><span style="font-size: medium;">6] Not a one of your </span><span style="font-size: medium;">intrepids covers the recommendation of
the German ethics</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">council which - subsequent </span><span style="font-size: medium;">to going into shock at the sight of a
video of a circumcision - recommends that at the very least it
be performed under </span><span style="font-size: medium;">anesthesia and medical supervision, no bloodsucking Rabbis for sure!</span><br />
<br /><span style="font-size: medium;">7] None report of the 100s upon hundreds of German physicians
and psychologists who have petitioned the Bundestag to at least allow a year of
reflection prior to passing a quick law. </span><br />
<br /><span style="font-size: medium;">8] Not a one appears to realize that the German population
opposes this form of circumcision by the factor of 75 to 25, a matter that can also be ascertained by looking at the
numerous</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">ongoing debates at the various German papers, online debate
organs, and blogs. </span></big></b></big></span></big></div>
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either of your threesome might have enough of a feel for the country to
realize that this controversy, as Michael Wolffsohn has indicated [see
below links] actually offers the occasion for a fairly amazing all
around rapprochement is perhaps too much to expect.<br />
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Looking at this performance by this sorry threesome I wonder
who the stateside editor might be who assigns, supervises, or perhaps</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">will only </span><span style="font-size: medium;">green-light a story written in this fashion?</span><br />
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You have such stellar staff in the science section, in film,
and the visual arts that I think maybe the science section ought
to cover it.</span></big></b></big></span></big></div>
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I feel a tad less sanguine in admiring the daily book review
staff, but that has to do with the fact that I am a fusspot</span><br /><span style="font-size: medium;">
in those matters; although to object to the </span>Neo<span style="font-size: medium;">-Con flavor
that Mr. </span>Tannenbaum<span style="font-size: medium;"> introduced into the Sunday Book Review is not a
matter of</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">being unnecessarily fussy.</span><br />
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In other words, in a small way, I am in this instance reminded
of the New York Times so one-sided coverage of the break-up
wars in Yugoslavia that culminated in Roger Cohen's infamous photo essay in the Magazine where
the big bad wolf from </span>Progravic<span style="font-size: medium;"> was accused </span>singlehandedly<span style="font-size: medium;"> of setting fire to every
destroyed house; a coverage that did not improve until Steve </span>Erlanger<span style="font-size: medium;">
was made </span>Belgrade<span style="font-size: medium;"> bureau chief - so my question is: wouldn't the salary
of the intrepid threesome pay for one more </span>Erlanger<span style="font-size: medium;">? There sure was a time
when the Times</span> <span style="font-size: medium;">had great station chiefs in Germany.</span><br />
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Here is the link to an archive that misses few if any stories
published in </span>Puntland<span style="font-size: medium;"> on the controversy, and has fair coverage of it in
the English speaking print, that is, also online world.</span><br />
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</span><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</a><br />
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Eine Diskussion </span>ueber<span style="font-size: medium;"> das Thema, mit drei Deutschen + einem
Amerikanischen Psychologen</span><br />
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<a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html" style="font-size: large;" target="_blank">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/psychotherapeutenyahoogroupsde.html</a><br />
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This piece<span style="font-size: medium;"> by the Germanist/ </span>Philosopher Luedkenhaus<span style="font-size: medium;"> at </span></big></b></big></span></big></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime;"> <b style="text-align: center;"><span style="background: yellow; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">DIE
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<b><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: courier new,monospace; text-align: start;">http://www.danielvitalis.com/rewild-yourself-podcast/ronald-goldman-phd-on-the-hidden-trauma-of-circumcision</span></b><br />
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</span><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue;"> <a href="http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/feuilleton/uebersicht/kindeswohl-und-elternpflicht-1.17546099" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/<wbr></wbr>feuilleton/uebersicht/<wbr></wbr>kindeswohl-und-elternpflicht-<wbr></wbr>1.17546099</span></a></span></span></b></big><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222;">
</span><span style="background-color: lime;"><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><big style="color: #222222;">together with Michael Wolfsohn's at Die Welt </big></span><big style="background-color: white; color: #222222;">
<span style="font-size: small;"> </span></big><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222;"><span style="background-color: #66ffff; font-family: Georgia, serif;"><b><a href="http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article108847257/Die-Vorhaut-des-Herzens.html" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.welt.de/print/die_<wbr></wbr>welt/debatte/article108847257/<wbr></wbr>Die-Vorhaut-des-Herzens.html</span></a></b></span>
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<pre cols="72" style="display: inline !important; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><big><big><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #222222;"> </span><big><span style="background-color: lime; color: red; font-size: small;">strike me as two of the most important contributions to the </span></big></big></big></b></pre>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/psychotherapeuten/">yahoo.com/group/psychotherapeuten</a></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">will make
its pertinent material available to the ongoing circumcision
discussion on a site of its own, meanwhile I am providing this provisional
page, a rubric of </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">which memorialize the discussion as
of its mid-August 2012 status.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: lime; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> For -
despite what Gerd Boettcher [see pertinent correspondence below] claimed,
the discussion at Yahoo.Therapeuten had run its course, and had consisted of a
mere four members and had petered out when I sought to alert the German Ethic Council
to its valuable parts and offered the contributors to opt out.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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invited to add to the discussion, no matter my above preference and
suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: lime; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">A colleague of Gerd Boettcher's, a psychologist, a Ms. Sommer writes:</span></b><br />
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"><span style="color: #333399;"><b style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-size: large;">"Wo bleiben die erwachsenen Juden, die ihre Eltern anklagen, sie vor der Beschneidung nicht bewahrt zu haben? Diese hätten allein das Recht dazu und das Recht für sich. Stattdessen singen sie ein Lob auf ihren uralten Brauch, der ihren Bund besiegelt." proving that she ouught maybe change professions. </span></b></span><big><big><big><big><b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: small;"><big><i><span style="font-size: small;"><big><big><big>
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2012.</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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THE LINKS AND PIECES RELATING TO THE GERMAN CIRCUMCISION CONTROVERSY AS IT
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Selbstverständlich! Und deshalb veröffentliche ich hier den Wortlaut meines
Schreibens an Herrn<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388;">Graumann</span></span>, an den
Zentralrat der Juden in<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388;">Deutschland</span></span>. Ich
erhoffe mir, an dieser Stelle, eine fachliche<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388;">Diskussion</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>zu diesem aktuellen Thema.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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sein
können für das, was sie tun, entfernt einen Schlussstein nicht nur aus
unserer Rechtsordnung, sondern aus unserer<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><u><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Welt</span></u></b></span><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">. Er tastet die
normative</span></u></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><u><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Grundlage</span></u></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></u></b></span><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">unseres sozialen Umgangs an, die Anerkennung als Personen.“
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ehemaliger Vize-Präsident des Bundesverfassungsgerichts</span></u></b></em><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">„Wir sind strafrechtlich verantwortlich, wenn
wir imstande
sind, unsere<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><u><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Entscheidungen</span></u></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></u></b></span><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">von vernünftigen Erwägungen abhängig zu machen, wenn wir also
imstande sind, unsere Wünsche kritisch zu bewerten.“
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Professor für Forensische Psychiatrie an der
FU</span></u></b></em><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><i><u><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></u></i></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><i><u><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Berlin</span></u></i></b></span><b><u><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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Landgericht Köln vom 07.05.2012 ) </span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">ist ein unerhörter und
unsensibler Akt. Die</span></b></em><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Beschneidung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">von neugeborenen Jungen ist
fester</span></b></em><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Bestandteil</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">der jüdischen</span></b></em><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Religion</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">und wird seit</span></b></em><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Jahrtausenden</span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">weltweit praktiziert.“
schreiben Sie.</span></b></em><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Landgericht Köln vom 07.05.2012 stellt einen Tatbestand fest, dem Sie und Ihre
Glaubensgemeinschaft eine wohl nur geringe, wenn nicht sogar gar keine
Bedeutung beigemessen haben. Und das, wie Sie selbst feststellen „seit
Jahrtausenden“. Ich möchte Sie bitten, Verständnis dafür zu entwickeln, dass in
einer modernen, offnen und demokratischen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gesellschaft</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">kein Raum
für Körperverletzung geben kann; für</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Rituale</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">die aus
Urzeiten stammen, aus einer Zeit in der sie möglicherweise noch einen Sinn
gehabt haben. Sie sind ganz sicher mit mir der</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Meinung</span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">, dass wir
dankbar sein können, in einen</span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Rechtsstaat</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">zu leben
zu können. Unsere Freiheit kann aber nur dann von Bestand sein, wenn wir die</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Urteile</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">unserer
unabhängigen Gerichte respektieren und religiöse Rechte deren Urteile
unterordnen. </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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kann nicht heißen, sich über das Recht eines demokratischen Staates zu stellen.
Dieses Ansinnen, sich über den Rechtsstaat zu stellen, habe ich bislang nur von
Islamisten wahrnehmen können. Wollen Sie sich, zumindest in der Frage der
Beschneidung, mit denen auf eine Stufe stellen? </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Wie
schrieb</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Rousseau</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">(*1712
+1778): </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">"</span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Alle Bürger schließen
den</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gesellschaftsvertrag</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">mit sich selbst ab und
werden dadurch zum Staatsvolk. Rousseau fordert, dass die Menschen ihre gesamte
materielle und ideelle</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Existenz</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">in den</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Vertrag</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">einbringen: ihre Person,
ihr Eigentum, ihr Vermögen, also alles, was ihre</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">bürgerliche Freiheit</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">konstituieren könnte.
Nichts dürfen sie außerhalb des</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Vertrags</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">belassen, auch ihre
Religion nicht. Denn das hieße, eine über dem Vertrag stehende höhere</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Instanz</span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">anzuerkennen. Es würde
bedeuten, religiösen Haltungen ein höheres als das staatsbürgerliche Recht
zuzubilligen und damit den Gesellschaftsvertrag zu zerstören.“</span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Wie brüchig
Gesellschaftsverträge werden können, haben wir schmerzhaft im letzten</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jahrhundert</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">erleben dürfen. Die für
Deutschland,</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Europe</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und global neu zu
fordernde </span></b></span><span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";">
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<span class="yiv1016794913apple-style-span"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Nicht zuletzt machen
sich m.E. Menschen unglaubwürdig, wenn sie die Würde und die seelische
und körperliche Unversehrtheit eines Menschen verletzen oder solche Taten
befürworten. Nicht was das <span style="color: #282828;">Landgericht
Köln mit seinem Urteil vom 07.05.2012 machte ist </span></span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">unerhört und unsensibel. Es
spiegelt in einem hohem Maße wider, wie sensibel und hellhörig es in Sachen von
Menschenrechten ist. Im Gegenteil dazu blieben bis dahin </span></b></em><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">Verletzungen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;"> </span></b></span><em><b><span style="border: none windowtext 1.0pt; color: #282828; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; font-style: normal; mso-border-alt: none windowtext 0in; padding: 0in;">einen menschlichen
Körpers unerhört, durch archaische unsensible Rituale. </span></b></em><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;">Dipl. Psych. Michael B. Flöter<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Michael B. Flöter<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="mailto:mbfloeter@t-online.de" target="_blank"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388;">mbfloeter@t-online.de</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Sehr
geehrter Herr Flöter,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">der Rechtsstaat war nicht in Gefahr. Nicht bis
zum Juni 2012. Das kann man erst einmal ganz nüchtern feststellen. Jedenfalls
nicht aufgrund der Beschneidung.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Man kann diese Form des positivistischen
juristischen Denkens auch als eine Art Erfassungssyndrom und einen
Gleichschaltungsversuch lesen. Positivistisch, indem es keinen Spielraum lässt
für eine nicht kausalistische, interpretative Herangehensweise.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Nicht das Urteil des Kölner Richters ist zu
kritisieren. Anlass war die Anzeige eines Arztes, der den Eindruck hatte, dass
die Mutter des Kindes nicht einverstanden war. Das Urteil könnte man auch so
lesen: Festgestellt wird, dass dann wenn keine Einigkeit zwischen Eltern über
eine auszuführende Beschneidung besteht, dieses Ritual zu einer Verletzung
führt. Allerdings eher zu einer Verletzung der Mutter als des Knaben. Und erst
dadurch für den Knaben.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Das ist genau der springende Punkt: Das
Ritual, das kann wahrscheinlich jeder bezeugen, der schon einmal zu den Zeuge
gehört hat, ist eine Einschreibung in den Gesellschaftsvertrag, in ein Gesetz.
Dies geht über die Loslösung von der Mutter, die bis dahin die einzige sichere
Beziehung war. Diese Loslösung bereitet Schmerz, führt zu einer Trennung und
ist der Versuch am Realen des Körpers den Buchstaben (des Gesetzes, der
Zugehörigkeit) einzuschreiben. Das ist auch ohne Beschneidung, wenn denn Eltern
und Pädagogen das auf sich nehmen, nie ohne Eingriffe in die Integrität des
Anderen zu haben. Daran gemahnt das Ritual. Ich will keinesfalls bestreiten,
dass das auch anders geht. Nur von der Struktur her braucht jede
Gesellschaft so etwas. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ich bin der Meinung, wenn das nicht
mitdiskutiert wird, verfällt man leicht in den Konkretismus, dass die Welt
besser wird, wenn keine Verletzung erfolgt, die blutet. Die Psychoanalyse hat
mich gelehrt, dass eine bestimmte Handlung, ein bestimmtes Wort, nicht immer
das Gleiche bedeutet und die gleichen Folgen hat.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Wenn ein Schmerz in einen Zusammenhang
eingebettet ist, dann kann er gesellschaftlich notwendige Fiktionen befördern
und das ist unverzichtbar, sonst zerfällt Gesellschaft und / oder es kommt zu
individuellen Leiden oder Explosionen.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Auch ein Gesellschaftsvertrag (das hört sich
so harmlos an) nach Rousseau ist nicht ohne Gewalt zu denken. Auch Vernunft ist
nicht ohne (Siehe Horkheimer / Adorno: Dialektik der Aufklärung und die daran
weitergeführten Überlegungen bis zu Lyotard ...)<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">No doubt
circumcision constitutes an engraving of a law, and an entry into a community.
I tend to doubt its function in separating the boy from mother, it constitutes
an act of taming by the father, a tad more than just a symbolic castration,
since its effect is to eliminate a great deal of future pleasure, and in that
it resembles what is called "female genital mutilation" - which,
however, is again meant to control sexual urges and pleasures, and both are
derivatives of a patriarchal culture. As to separating from the mother, I
loved, in my imagination, the practice of the American Plains Indians, who
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had these strips torn from their chests, drawing blood and inflicting the kind
of pain that can be felt upon separation. Freud as you will recall found that
circumcision and the fantasies associated with it lay at the heart of
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Both at Cicero
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Sincerely,</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Identität, speziell: „Jüdische Identität“</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Der
1923 in Berlin geborene, heute in der Schweiz lebende jüdische Psychoanalytiker
Arno Gruen,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Verfasser zahlreicher psychoanalytischer Grundlagenwerke<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
(Der Verlust des Mitgefühls; Der Fremde in uns; Der Kampf um die Demokratie;
„Ich will eine Welt ohne Kriege“),<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
hat soeben einen lesenswerten autobiografisch getönten Beitrag vorgelegt,
betitelt mit Identität,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
speziell: „Jüdische Identität“. Wir publizieren einige Auszüge hieraus.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Publiziert wurde sie in dem Themenschwerpunktheft Jüdische Identitäten in
Deutschland nach dem Holocaust…</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<em><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Von
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<em><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">WEITER:</span></b></em><b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><br />
</span></i></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2012/07/09/gruen/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2012/07/09/gruen/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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PSYCHIC trauma hat circumcision entails consigns the practice to the
domain of the atavistic An ethnic or religious group that after however
many of thousand years cannot come up with a better unifying practice must be
regarded as forever benighted. Like female circumcision, circumcision exists
not so much to cement a community, but as a patriarchal practice to keep
the sons and daughters in line, and, not so incidentally, eliminate a great
deal of sexual pleasure. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">vor Kurzen stieß
ich hier mittels eines Briefs, an den Bundestagsabgeordneten, Herrn Geis eine
Debatte zum obigen Thema an. Hier ist Debatte etwas abgeflacht. In den Medien
nimmt sie jeden Tag an Fahrt zu.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Hier nun lasse ich
einen Befürworter, den Journalist, </span></b><b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jacques Schuster zu Wort kommen. Er sagt auch was zu den psychologischen Aspekten.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Nach "Ein Geheimnis" schreibt Philippe Grimbert
mit "Ein besonderer Junge" eine weitere subtile Geschichte über das
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Psychoanalytiker auf Schritt und Tritt, den Fachmann für persönliche Krisen,
Zäsuren, Lebensabschnittskonflikte. In "Ein Geheimnis" ist der 1948
in Paris geborene Jugendpsychiater, der erst spät zur Belletristik fand, einem
Familiengeheimnis auf der Spur gewesen. Die Geschichte führte tief in die
komplizierte französische Kollaboration mit dem Faschismus zurück. Sie zeigte
am Beispiel der jüdischen Grinbergs, die vor lauter - man kann durchaus sagen:
Assimilierungswut zu Grimberts werden, dass auch in Frankreich die "zweite
Generation" ihre Schwierigkeiten mit dem Schweigen der Opfer hat......</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Since Jacques
Schuster puts his e-mail address to his piece in die Welt I decided to address
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Lieber Herr
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The PSYCHIC
trauma hat circumcision entails consigns the practice to the domain of
the atavistic An ethnic or religious group that after however many of
thousand years cannot come up with a better unifying practice must be regarded
as forever benighted. Like female circumcision, circumcision exists not so much
to cement a community, but as a patriarchal practice, to keep the sons
and daughters in line, and, not so incidentally, eliminate a great deal of
sexual pleasure. That is scarcely "Kuechen Psychologie" in your piece
you are confusing a number of matters: Inoculations can be administered
painlessly - a mosquito bite is not comparable with the narcissistic and
fundamental Oedipal trauma that is circumcision. Usage, custom could allow all
sorts of other entirely atavistic traditions, no? if you wish to argue the
matter from that angle. To introduce the notion of intolerance into this
discussion, also, is not pertinent to the issue, as well as contradictory,
since a child if he wishes could decide to be circumcised, say, at the time of
Bar Mitzvah. Actually, the elimination of the practice of circumcision would
also go some ways toward abating irrational forms of anti-semitism. </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Very truly
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Debatte um die Beschneidung ist nicht der Anfang. Bei der Recherche fand ich
folgenden Link ein korrespondierendesThema: </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Dear Michael Roloff,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">wie so oft, haben Sie die Geschichte auf den
Punkt gebracht.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Hinzufügen möchte ich noch, dass ich in meiner
psychoanalytisch-psychotraumatologischen Tätigkeit eine große Anzahl
diesbezüglich traumatisierter Muslime kennen gelernt habe, und zwar nicht nur
nach den auf die Brutal-Methode durchgeführten Beschneidungen. Viele konnten
sich dann hinsichtlich der Beschneidung ihrer Söhne nicht gegen die Erwartungen
der Familie stellen. (Dieser Befund deckt sich übrigens mit der weiblichen
Genitalverstümmelung, die meist auch von der Familie gefordert wird.)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Übrigens ist die Traumatisierung auch bei
Deutschen, die aus strikt medizinischer Indikation (Phimose u. ä.)
zirkumzidiert wurden, zu beobachten, wenn auch nicht so krass. Es ist eben ein
höchst sensibles Gebiet, und die Unterwerfungsphantasie ist stets dabei.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">My best regards,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Thomas Soeder</span><br />
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Die
Beschneidung der Vorhaut (Zirkumzision) ist der älteste und am häufigsten
durchgeführte operative Eingriff überhaupt. Prof. Dr. Matthias Franz,
stellvertretender Direktor des Klinischen Instituts für Psychosomatische
Medizin und Psychotherapie, warnt deutlich vor den Gefahren der meist religiös
motivierten Operation: „Die Entfernung der Vorhaut im Säuglings- oder
Kindesalter stellt ein Trauma dar und kann zu andauernden körperlichen,
sexuellen oder psychischen Komplikationen und Leidenszuständen führen. Diese
Problematik wird aus Respekt vor religiösen oder kulturellen Tabus und aus Angst
vor möglichen Konflikten bislang aber vorwiegend in Fachkreisen diskutiert.“</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Die Forschung zeigt, dass die Erfahrung
elterlicher Gewalt während der Kindheit Brüche in der emotionalen Wahrnehmung
und Empathiefähigkeit des später erwachsenen Kindes bewirkt. In der Kindheit
erfahrene Traumata werden verinnerlicht und oft später auch selber wiederholt.
Kollektiv rituell vermittelte traumatische kindliche Erfahrungen führen daher
zu Empathiebrüchen. Die Gruppe der Beschnittenen reagiert mit Abwehr, d.h. sie
verleugnet die erlittenen Schmerzen. Dadurch wird die Einfühlung in das Erleben
der nächsten Opfer desselben Rituals beeinträchtigt: Es kann und darf nicht
schlecht gewesen sein, was die Eltern damals mit mir gemacht haben. Deshalb tue
ich es auch.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Eine derartige Erfahrung führt bei den betroffenen Jungen meist zu einer
Fortsetzung der rituellen Praxis. Die erwachsenen Eltern leugnen aus eigenen
Abwehrbedürfnissen die erlittene Gewalt, deshalb kann das emotionale Erleben
des zu beschneidenden Kindes von den handelnden Erwachsenen nicht empathisch
erfasst werden. So entsteht eine Täter-Opfer-Kette, die sich über viele
Generationen hinweg etablieren kann. Franz: „Eine deutsche Variante, noch gar
nicht so lange her: Eine ordentliche Tracht Prügel hat noch niemandem
geschadet.“<br />
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Unterschieden werden muss zwischen den Auswirkungen der Beschneidung im
Säuglingsalter, wie es das Judentum fordert, und der im Kindesalter, die im
Islam üblich ist.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Jüdische Jungen, die laut Bibel am achten Tag zu beschneiden sind, erleiden bei
der Zirkumzision Schmerzen, die noch nach einem Jahr im Körpergedächtnis
nachweisbar sind als überschießende Schmerzreaktionen auf Impfungen.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Muslimische Jungen werden dagegen meist im Alter von fünf bis acht Jahren
beschnitten. Franz: „Dass die Beschneidung des Jungen auf dem Höhepunkt der
infantilen Sexualentwicklung besondere Entwicklungsrisiken mit sich bringen
kann, erscheint zumindest plausibel. Die Beschneidung kann von Jungen, die sich
in dieser Phase zunehmend auf ihre Genitalität zentriert erleben, wie eine
elterlich herbeigeführte, schwere Sanktion oder Kastrationsdrohung erlebt
werden. Der schmerzlich-traumatische Eingriff erfolgt faktisch, bewusst
wahrnehmbar und unter direktem Zugriff auf den libidinös und narzisstisch hoch
besetzten Genitalbereich. Der ängstigende Gewaltaspekt unterliegt dabei einer
bemerkenswerten Verleugnung durch die beteiligten Erwachsenen. Er wird
rationalisiert als festlich und forciert freudig gestalteter
Männlichkeitsritus. Der kleine Junge, der ja in keiner Weise an der Schwelle
zum Mannesalter steht, wird mit hypermaskulinen Attributen und großen
Geschenken zum Mann erklärt, eigentlich aber von Erwachsenen manipuliert.“<br />
Aus psychoanalytischer Sicht stellt die Zirkumzision bei fünf- bis achtjährigen
Jungen eine kollektive sexualtraumatische Erfahrung dar. Diese kann in
besonders patriarchalisch geprägten Kulturen eine der Ursachen für eine starke
Kontrolle der Sexualität und der Frau sein. So kann das Trauma zur
Stabilisierung von Machtstrukturen führen. Franz: „Aus psychoanalytischer Sicht
resultiert aus dieser definitiven Klarstellung hierarchischer Bezüge eine durch
starke Ängste (vor dem ultimativen Schnitt) fundierte patriarchalische
Loyalität.“<br />
Sowohl Juden als auch Muslime betrachten die Beschneidung als Zeichen ihrer
exklusiven Zugehörigkeit zu Gott. Während die Beschneidung im Alten Testament
ausdrücklich gefordert wird („Das aber ist mein Bund, den ihr halten sollt
zwischen mir und euch… eure Vorhaut sollt ihr beschneiden... Jedes Knäblein,
wenn’s acht Tage alt ist, sollt ihr beschneiden bei euren Nachkommen“) ist sie
im Islam nicht durch den Koran vorgegeben. Sie ist allerdings ein fester
Bestandteil der Ritualkultur. Der Prophet Mohamed wurde nach der Überlieferung
vorhautlos geboren, denen, die diesem Vorbild folgen, werden Belohnungen in
Aussicht gestellt.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Das Ritual der Beschneidung selbst stammt noch aus vorgeschichtlicher Zeit.
Franz: „Es könnte in Jägerkulturen als männlicher Initiationsritus der sozialen
Aggressionskontrolle gedient haben. Die mit der Erlaubnis zur Jagd
erforderliche Überwindung der Tötungshemmung bedingt eine
Aggressionsfreisetzung, vor der die Bezugsgruppe geschützt werden muss. Die
Kontrolle aggressiver (und sexueller) Impulse innerhalb der Gruppe könnte durch
die rituelle Kastrationsandrohung erleichtert worden sein, wenn sich die
kindlich erlittenen Ängste und Schmerzen an das Verbot von
Grenzüberschreitungen gegenüber Gruppenmitgliedern knüpften. Durch ein
demonstratives, öffentlich wiederholtes Ritual mit Drohpotenzial wird ein
Phantasieraum erschlossen, in dem Kastration als Strafe vielleicht doch möglich
ist. Die rigide patriarchalisch geprägte Loyalität, die durch dieses Ritual
erzeugt wurde, diente einerseits also wohl der sozialen Triebkontrolle,
andererseits der Herausbildung einer Gruppenidentität.“<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Zudem kann die Beschneidung auch der von der Mutter trennenden Initiation zum
Mann einschneidenden Ausdruck verleihen: Auf Grund der Anatomie kann die
männliche Vorhaut in den archaischen Schichten des Unterbewusstseins als
„weiblich“ imaginiert werden, ihre Entfernung trennt den Jungen dann endgültig
von der Mutter.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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Für die Zukunft rechnet Prof. Franz mit vermehrten Schadensersatzprozessen
beschnittener Männer, nicht nur gegen die Ärzte, sondern möglicherweise auch
gegen die Eltern.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Medical Studies on Circumcision<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision is Associated with
Adult Difficulty in Identifying and Expressing Feelings<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">This preliminary study investigates what role
early trauma might have in alexithymia (difficulty in identifying and
expressing feelings) acquisition for adults by controlling for male
circumcision. Three hundred self-selected men were administered the Toronto
Twenty-Item Alexithymia Scale checklist and a personal history questionnaire.
The circumcised men had age-adjusted alexithymia scores 19.9 percent higher
than the intact men; were 1.57 times more likely to have high alexithymia
scores; were 2.30 times less likely to have low alexithymia scores; had higher
prevalence of two of the three alexithymia factors (difficulty identifying
feelings and difficulty describing feelings); and were 4.53 times more likely
to use an erectile dysfunction drug. Alexithymia in this population of adult
men is statistically significant for having experienced circumcision trauma and
for erectile dysfunction drug use. (See link to article on our home page.)<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bollinger,
D. and Van Howe, R. , "Alexithymia and Circumcision
Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation," International Journal of
Men's Health (2011);184-195.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Associated with
Sexual Difficulties in Men and Women<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A new national survey in Denmark, where about
5% of men are circumcised, examined associations of circumcision with a range
of sexual measures in both sexes. Circumcised men were more likely to report
frequent orgasm difficulties, and women with circumcised spouses more often
reported incomplete sexual needs fulfillment and frequent sexual function
difficulties overall, notably orgasm difficulties, and painful sexual
intercourse. Thorough examination of these matters in areas where male
circumcision is more common is warranted.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Frisch,
M., Lindholm, M., and Gr</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">nb</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">k, M., "Male Circumcision and Sexual Function in Men and
Women: A Survey-based, Cross-sectional Study in Denmark,"
International Journal of Epidemiology (2011);1</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">15.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision is Associated with
Premature Ejaculation<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Premature ejaculation (PE) is common.
However, it has been underreported and undertreated. The aim of the study was
to determine the prevalence of PE and to investigate possible associated
factors of PE. This cross-sectional study was conducted at a primary care
clinic over a 3-month period in 2008. Men aged 18-70 years attending the clinic
were recruited, and they completed self-administered questionnaires. A total of
207 men were recruited with a response rate of 93.2%. Their mean age was 46.0
years. The prevalence of PE was 40.6%. No significant association was found
between age and PE. Multivariate analysis showed that erectile dysfunction,
circumcision, and sexual intercourse =5 times in 4 weeks were predictors of PE.
These associations need further confirmation.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Tang,
W. and Khoo, E. "Prevalence and Correlates of Premature Ejaculation in a
Primary Care Setting: A Preliminary Cross-Sectional Study," Journal of
Sexual Medicine (2011) Apr 14.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">NOTE:
There have been numerous articles in American media about claims that
circumcision prevents HIV transmission. No mainstream media article has
reported on an opposing view, as described in the findings of the following
five medical articles.</span></strong><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Claim of Circumcision Benefit
is Overstated and Premature<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Further research is required to assess the
feasibility, desirability and cost-effectiveness of circumcision to reduce the
acquisition of HIV. This paper endorses the need for such research and suggests
that, in its absence, it is premature to promote circumcision as a reliable
strategy for combating HIV. Since articles in leading medical journals as well
as the popular press continue to do so, scientific researchers should think
carefully about how their conclusions may be translated both to policy makers
and to a more general audience. The importance of addressing ethico-legal
concerns that such trials may raise is highlighted. The understandable haste to
find a solution to the HIV pandemic means that the promise offered by
preliminary and specific research studies may be overstated. This may mean that
ethical concerns are marginalized. Such haste may also obscure the need to be
attentive to local cultural sensitivities, which vary from one African region
to another, in formulating policy concerning circumcision.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Fox, M.
and Thomson, M., "HIV/AIDS and Circumcision : Lost in Translation,"
Journal of Medical Ethics 36 (2010):798-801.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision/HIV Claims are
Based on Insufficient Evidence<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">An article endorsed by thirty-two
professionals questions the results of three highly publicized African
circumcision studies. The studies claim that circumcision reduces HIV
transmission, and they are being used to promote circumcisions. Substantial
evidence in this article refutes the claim of the studies.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Examples in the article include the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">1.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision is associated with increased
transmission of HIV to women.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-left: 0in; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; tab-stops: list .5in; text-indent: -.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">2.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Conditions for the studies were unlike
conditions found in real-world settings.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-left: 0in; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; tab-stops: list .5in; text-indent: -.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">3.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Other studies show that male circumcision
is not associated with reduced HIV transmission.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin-left: 0in; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; tab-stops: list .5in; text-indent: -.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">4.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">The U.S. has a high rate of HIV infection
and a high rate of circumcision. Other countries have low rates of circumcision
and low rates of HIV infection.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">5.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Condoms are 95 times more cost effective in
preventing HIV transmission.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial;">6.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; font-weight: normal;"> </span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision removes healthy, functioning,
unique tissue, raising ethical considerations.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Green,
L. et al., "Male Circumcision and HIV Prevention: Insufficient Evidence
and Neglected External Validity," American Journal of Preventive Medicine
39 (2010): 479-82.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">In National Survey Circumcision
Had No Protective Effect<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A survey of South African men showed that
circumcision had no protective effect in the prevention of HIV transmission.
This is a concern, and has implications for the possible adoption of mass male
circumcision strategy both as a public health policy and an HIV prevention
strategy.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Connolly,
C. et al., South African Medical Journal 98(2008): 789-794.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision is Not Cost
Effective<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The findings suggest that behavior change
programs are more efficient and cost effective than circumcision. Providing
free condoms is estimated to be significantly less costly, more effective in
comparison to circumcising, and at least 95 times more cost effective at
stopping the spread of HIV in Sub-Saharan Africa. In addition, condom usage
provides protection for women as well as men. This is significant in an area
where almost 61% of adults living with AIDS are women.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">McAllister,
R. et al., "The Cost to Circumcise Africa," American Journal of Men's
Health 7(2008): 307-316.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision/HIV Have
Incomplete Evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The push to institute mass circumcision in
Africa, following the three randomized clinical trials (RCTs) conducted in
Africa, is based on an incomplete evaluation of real-world preventive effects over
the long-term </span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> effects that may be quite different outside
the research setting and circumstances, with their access to resources,
sanitary standards and intensive counseling. Moreover, proposals for mass
circumcision lack a thorough and objective consideration of costs in relation
to hoped-for benefits. No field-test has been performed to evaluate the
effectiveness, complications, personnel requirements, costs and practicality of
proposed approaches in real-life conditions. These are the classic distinctions
between efficacy and effectiveness trials, and between internal validity and
external validity.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Campaigns to promote safe-sex behaviors have
been shown to accomplish a high rate of infection reduction, without the
surgical risks and complications of circumcision, and at a much lower cost. For
the health community to rush to recommend a program based on incomplete
evidence is both premature and ill-advised. It misleads the public by promoting
false hope from uncertain conclusions and might ultimately aggravate the problem
by altering people</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">s behavioral patterns and exposing them and
their partners to new or expanded risks. Given these problems, circumcision of
adults, and especially of children, by coercion or by false hope, raises human
rights concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Green,
L. et al., "Male Circumcision is Not the HIV </span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Vaccine</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> We
Have Been Waiting For!" Future Medicine 2 (2008): 193-199, DOI
10.2217/17469600.2.3.193.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Decreases Sexual
Pleasure<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A questionnaire was used to study the
sexuality of men circumcised as adults compared to uncircumcised men, and to
compare their sex lives before and after circumcision. The study included 373
sexually active men, of whom 255 were circumcised and 118 were not. Of the 255
circumcised men, 138 had been sexually active before circumcision, and all were
circumcised at >20 years of age. Masturbatory pleasure decreased after
circumcision in 48% of the respondents, while 8% reported increased pleasure.
Masturbatory difficulty increased after circumcision in 63% of the respondents
but was easier in 37%. About 6% answered that their sex lives improved, while
20% reported a worse sex life after circumcision. There was a decrease in
masturbatory pleasure and sexual enjoyment after circumcision, indicating that
adult circumcision adversely affects sexual function in many men, possibly
because of complications of the surgery and a loss of nerve endings.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Kim, D.
and Pang, M., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on Sexuality," BJU
International 99 (2007): 619-22.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Removes the Most
Sensitive Parts of the Penis<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A sensitivity study of the adult penis in
circumcised and uncircumcised men shows that the uncircumcised penis is
significantly more sensitive. The most sensitive location on the circumcised
penis is the circumcision scar on the ventral surface. Five locations on the
uncircumcised penis that are routinely removed at circumcision are
significantly more sensitive than the most sensitive location on the
circumcised penis.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">In addition, the glans (head) of the
circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the
uncircumcised penis. The tip of the foreskin is the most sensitive region of
the uncircumcised penis, and it is significantly more sensitive than the most
sensitive area of the circumcised penis. Circumcision removes the most
sensitive parts of the penis.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">This study presents the first extensive
testing of fine touch pressure thresholds of the adult penis. The monofiliment
testing instruments are calibrated and have been used to test female genital
sensitivity.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Sorrells,
M. et al., </span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Fine-Touch Pressure Thresholds in the Adult Penis,</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> BJU
International 99 (2007): 864-869.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Policy Influenced
by Psychosocial Factors<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The debate about the advisability of
circumcision in English-speaking countries typically has focused on potential
health factors. The position statements of committees from national medical
organisations are expected to be evidence-based; however, the contentiousness
of the ongoing debate suggests that other factors are involved. Various
potential factors related to psychology, sociology, religion, and culture may
also underlie policy decisions. These factors could affect the values and
attitudes of medical committee members, the process of evaluating the medical
literature, and the medical literature itself. Although medical professionals
highly value rationality, it can be difficult to conduct a rational and
objective evaluation of an emotional and controversial topic such as
circumcision. A negotiated compromise between polarized committee factions
could introduce additional psychosocial factors. These possibilities are
speculative, not conclusive. It is recommended that an open discussion of
psychosocial factors take place and that the potential biases of committee
members be recognized.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Goldman,
R., </span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Policy: A Psychosocial Perspective,</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">
Paediatrics & Child Health 9 (2004): 630-633.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision is Not Good Health
Policy<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A cost-utility analysis, based on published
data from multiple observational studies, comparing boys circumcised at birth
and those not circumcised was undertaken using the Quality of Well-being Scale,
a Markov analysis, the standard reference case, and a societal perspective.
Neonatal circumcision increased incremental costs by $828.42 per patient and
resulted in an incremental 15.30 well-years lost per 1000 males. If neonatal
circumcision was cost-free, pain-free, and had no immediate complications, it
was still more costly than not circumcising. Using sensitivity analysis, it was
impossible to arrange a scenario that made neonatal circumcision
cost-effective. Neonatal circumcision is not good health policy, and support
for it as a medical procedure cannot be justified financially or medically.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Van
Howe, R., </span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">A Cost-Utility Analysis of Neonatal Circumcision,</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">
Medical Decision Making 24 (2004):584-601.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Pain, Trauma, Sexual, and
Psychological Effects of Circumcision<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Infant male circumcision continues despite
growing questions about its medical justification. As usually performed without
analgesia or anaesthetic, circumcision is observably painful. It is likely that
genital cutting has physical, sexual and psychological consequences, too. Some
studies link involuntary male circumcision with a range of negative emotions
and even post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Some circumcised men have
described their current feelings in the language of violation, torture,
mutilation and sexual assault. In view of the acute as well as long-term risks
from circumcision and the legal liabilities that might arise, it is timely for
health professionals and scientists to re-examine the evidence on this issue
and participate in the debate about the advisability of this surgical procedure
on unconsenting minors.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Boyle
G. et al., "Male Circumcision: Pain, Trauma and Psychosexual
Sequelae," Journal of Health Psychology (2002): 329-343.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Results in
Significant Loss of Erogenous Tissue<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A report published in the British Journal of
Urology assessed the type and amount of tissue missing from the adult
circumcised penis by examining adult foreskins obtained at autopsy.
Investigators found that circumcision removes about one-half of the erogenous
tissue on the penile shaft. The foreskin, according to the study, protects the
head of the penis and is comprised of unique zones with several kinds of specialized
nerves that are important to optimum sexual sensitivity.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Taylor,
J. et al., "The Prepuce: Specialized Mucosa of the Penis and Its Loss to
Circumcision," BJU 77 (1996): 291</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">295.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Affects Sexual
Behavior<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A study published in the Journal of the
American Medical Association found that circumcision provided no significant
prophylactic benefit and that circumcised men were more likely to engage in
various sexual practices. Specifically, circumcised men were significantly more
likely to masturbate and to participate in heterosexual oral sex than
uncircumcised men.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Laumann,
E. et al., "Circumcision in the U.S.: Prevalence, Prophylactic Effects,
and Sexual Practice," JAMA 277 (1997): 1052</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">1057.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Researchers Demonstrate
Traumatic Effects of Circumcision<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A team of Canadian researchers produced new
evidence that circumcision has long-lasting traumatic effects. An article
published in the international medical journal The Lancet reported the effect
of infant circumcision on pain response during subsequent routine vaccination.
The researchers tested 87 infants at 4 months or 6 months of age. The boys who
had been circumcised were more sensitive to pain than the uncircumcised boys.
Differences between groups were significant regarding facial action, crying
time, and assessments of pain.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The authors believe that "neonatal
circumcision may induce long-lasting changes in infant pain behavior because of
alterations in the infant</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">s central neural processing of painful
stimuli." They also write that "the long-term consequences of surgery
done without anaesthesia are likely to include post-traumatic stress as well as
pain. It is therefore possible that the greater vaccination response in the
infants circumcised without anaesthesia may represent an infant analogue of a
post-traumatic stress disorder triggered by a traumatic and painful event and
re-experienced under similar circumstances of pain during vaccination."<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Taddio,
A. et al., "Effect of Neonatal Circumcision on Pain Response during
Subsequent Routine Vaccination," The Lancet 349 (1997): 599</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">603.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision Study Halted Due
to Trauma<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Researchers found circumcision so traumatic
that they ended the study early rather than subject any more infants to the
operation without anesthesia. Those infants circumcised without anesthesia
experienced not only severe pain, but also an increased risk of choking and
difficulty breathing. The findings were published in the Journal of the
American Medical Association. Up to 96% of infants in some areas of the United
States receive no anesthesia during circumcision. No anesthetic currently in
use for circumcisions is effective during the most painful parts of the
procedure.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lander,
J. et al., "Comparison of Ring Block, Dorsal Penile Nerve Block, and
Topical Anesthesia for Neonatal Circumcision," JAMA 278 (1997): 2157</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">2162.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcised Penis Requires More
Care in Young Boys<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The circumcised penis requires more care than
the natural penis during the first three years of life, according to a report
in the British Journal of Urology. The clinical findings of an American
pediatrician showed that circumcised boys were significantly more likely to
have skin adhesions, trapped debris, irritated urinary opening, and
inflammation of the glans (head of the penis) than were boys with a foreskin.
Furthermore, because there are large variations of appearance in circumcised
boys, circumcision for cosmetic reasons should be discouraged.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Van
Howe, R., "Variability in Penile Appearance and Penile Findings: A
Prospective Study," BJU 80 (1997): 776</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">782.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Poll of Circumcised Men Reveals
Harm<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A poll of circumcised men published in the
British Journal of Urology describes adverse outcomes on men</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">s health and well-being. Findings showed wide-ranging physical,
sexual, and psychological consequences. Some respondents reported prominent
scarring and excessive skin loss. Sexual consequences included progressive loss
of sensitivity and sexual dysfunction. Emotional distress followed the
realization that they were missing a functioning part of their penis. Low-self
esteem, resentment, avoidance of intimacy, and depression were also noted.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Hammond,
T., "A Preliminary Poll of Men Circumcised in Infancy or Childhood,"
BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 85</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">92<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Psychological Effects of
Circumcision Studied<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">An article titled "The Psychological
Impact of Circumcision" reports that circumcision results in behavioral
changes in infants and long-term unrecognized psychological effects on men. The
piece reviews the medical literature on infants</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">
responses to circumcision and concludes, "there is strong evidence that
circumcision is overwhelmingly painful and traumatic." The article notes
that infants exhibit behavioral changes after circumcision, and some men have strong
feelings of anger, shame, distrust, and grief about having been circumcised. In
addition, circumcision has been shown to disrupt the mother-infant bond, and
some mothers report significant distress after allowing their son to be
circumcised. Psychological factors perpetuate circumcision. According to the
author, "defending circumcision requires minimizing or dismissing the harm
and producing overstated medical claims about protection from future harm. The
ongoing denial requires the acceptance of false beliefs and misunderstanding of
facts. These psychological factors affect professionals, members of religious
groups, and parents involved in the practice."<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Expressions from circumcised men are
generally lacking because most circumcised men do not understand what
circumcision is, emotional repression keeps feelings from awareness, or men may
be aware of these feelings but afraid of disclosure.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Goldman,
R., "The Psychological Impact of Circumcision," BJU 83 (1999): suppl.
1: 93</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">102<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Serious Consequences of
Circumcision Trauma in Adult Men Clinically Observed<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Using four case examples that are typical
among his clients, a practicing psychiatrist presents clinical findings
regarding the serious and sometimes disabling long-term somatic, emotional, and
psychological consequences of infant circumcision in adult men. These
consequences resemble complex post-traumatic stress disorder and emerge during
psychotherapy focused on the resolution of perinatal and developmental trauma.
Adult symptoms associated with circumcision trauma include shyness, anger,
fear, powerlessness, distrust, low self-esteem, relationship difficulties, and
sexual shame. Long-term psychotherapy dealing with early trauma resolution
appears to be effective in healing these consequences.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Rhinehart,
J., "Neonatal Circumcision Revistited," Transactional Analysis
Journal 29 (1999): 215-221<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Anatomy and Function of the
Foreskin Documented<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A new article describes the foreskin
(prepuce) as an integral, normal part of the genitals of mammals. It is
specialized, protective, erogenous tissue. A description of the complex nerve
structure of the penis explains why anesthetics provide incomplete pain relief
during circumcision. Cutting off the foreskin removes many fine-touch receptors
from the penis and results in thickening and desensitization of the glans outer
layer. The complex anatomy and function of the foreskin dictate that
circumcision should be avoided or deferred until the person can make an
informed decision as an adult.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Cold,
C. and Taylor, J., "The Prepuce," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 34</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">44.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Male Circumcision Affects
Female Sexual Enjoyment<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A survey of women who have had sexual
experience with circumcised and anatomically complete partners showed that the
anatomically complete penis was preferred over the circumcised penis. Without
the foreskin to provide a movable sleeve of skin, intercourse with a
circumcised penis resulted in female discomfort from increased friction,
abrasion, and loss of natural secretions. Respondents overwhelmingly concurred
that the mechanics of coitus were different for the two groups of men.
Unaltered men tended to thrust more gently with shorter strokes.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">O</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Hara,
K. and O</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Hara, J., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on the Sexual
Enjoyment of the Female Partner," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 79</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">�</span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">84<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Male Circumcision and
Psychosexual Effects Investigated<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Infant male circumcision continues despite
growing questions about its medical justification. As usually performed without
analgesia or anesthetic, circumcision is observably painful. It is likely that
genital cutting has physical, sexual, and psychological consequences, too. Some
studies link involuntary male circumcision with a range of negative emotions
and even post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Some circumcised men have
described their current feelings in the language of violation, torture,
mutilation, and sexual assault. In view of the acute as well as long-term risks
from circumcision and the legal liabilities that might arise, it is timely for
health professionals and scientists to re-examine the evidence on this issue
and participate in the debate about the advisability of this surgical procedure
on unconsenting minors.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Boyle,
G., Goldman, R., Svoboda, J.S., and Fernandez, E., "Male Circumcision:
Pain, Trauma, and Psychosexual Sequelae," Journal of Health Psychology 7
(2002): 329-343.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Surveys Reveal Adverse Sexual
and Psychological Effects of Circumcision<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">A survey of the 35 female and 42 gay sexual
partners of circumcised and genitally intact men, and a separate survey of 53
circumcised and genitally intact men, and a separate survey of 30 genitally
intact men themselves indicated that circumcised men experienced significantly
reduced sexual sensation along with associated long-lasting negative emotional
consequences.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Boyle,
G. and Bensley, G., "Adverse Sexual and Psychological Effects of Male
Infant Circumcision,". Psychological Reports 88 (2001): 1105-1106.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Foreskin Reduces the Force
Required for Penetration and Increases Comfort<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Masters and Johnson observed that the
foreskin unrolled with intercourse. However, they overlooked a prior
observation that intromission (i.e., penetration) was thereby made easier. To
evaluate this observation an artificial introitus was mounted on scales.
Repeated measurements showed a 10-fold reduction of force on entry with an
initially unretracted foreskin as compared to entry with a retracted foreskin.
For the foreskin to reduce the force required it must cover most of the glans
when the penis is erect.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Taves,
D., "The Intromission Function of the Foreskin," Med Hypotheses 59
(2002): 180.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Survey of Men Circumcised as
Adults Shows Mixed Results<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Men circumcised as adults were surveyed to
assess erectile function, penile sensitivity, sexual activity and overall
satisfaction. Over 80% of these men were circumcised to treat a medical
problem. The response rate was 44% among potential responders. Mean age of
responders was 42 years at circumcision and 46 years at survey. Adult
circumcision appears to result in worsened erectile function, decreased penile
sensitivity, no change in sexual activity, and improved satisfaction. Of the
men 50% reported benefits and 38% reported harm. Overall, 62% of men were
satisfied with having been circumcised. Note: Results may be affected by the
fact that there was no sample of normal, healthy, genitally intact men for
comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Fink,
K., Carson, C., DeVellis, R., "Adult Circumcision Outcomes Study: Effect
on Erectile Function, Penile Sensitivity, Sexual Activity and
Satisfaction," J Urol 167 (2002): 2113-2116.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Survey Finds Circumcision
Contributes to Vaginal Dryness<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">The impact of male circumcision on vaginal
dryness during coitus was investigated. We conducted a survey of 35 female
sexual partners aged 18 to 69 years who had experienced sexual intercourse with
both circumcised and genitally intact men. Women reported they were
significantly more likely to have experienced vaginal dryness during intercourse
with circumcised than with genitally intact men.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bensley,
G. and Boyle, G., "Effects of Male Circumcision on Female Arousal and
Orgasm," N Z Med J 116 (2003): 595-596.<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
<h3 style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 12.0pt; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Early Adverse Experiences May
Lead to Abnormal Brain Development and Behavior<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; mso-line-height-alt: 14.65pt;">
<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Self-destructive behavior in current society
promotes a search for psychobiological factors underlying this epidemic. The
brain of the newborn infant is particularly vulnerability to early adverse
experiences, leading to abnormal development and behavior. Although several
investigations have correlated newborn complications with abnormal adult
behavior, our understanding of the underlying mechanisms remains rudimentary.
Models of early experience, such as repetitive pain, sepsis, or maternal
separation in rodents and other species have noted multiple alterations in the
adult brain, correlated with specific behavioral types depending on the timing
and nature of the adverse experience. The mechanisms mediating such changes in
the newborn brain have remained largely unexplored. Maternal separation,
sensory isolation (understimulation), and exposure to extreme or repetitive
pain (overstimulation) may cause altered brain development. (Circumcision is
described as an intervention with long-term neurobehavioral effects.) These
changes promote two distinct behavioral types characterized by increased
anxiety, altered pain sensitivity, stress disorders, hyperactivity/attention
deficit disorder, leading to impaired social skills and patterns of
self-destructive behavior. The clinical importance of these mechanisms lies in
the prevention of early adverse experiences and effective treatment of newborn
pain and stress.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Anand,
K. and Scalzo, F., "Can Adverse Neonatal Experiences Alter Brain
Development and Subsequent Behavior? Biol Neonate 77 (2000): 69-82<o:p></o:p></span></h6>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">Note: CRC disapproves of animal studies that
involve inflicting pain.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Am
18.07.2012 um 12:54 schrieb bbpp:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Stellt euch der Debatte!</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Auf das Beschneidungsverbot haben
die Vertreter des organisierten Islam empört reagiert.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Dabei wäre die Diskussion die Chance, eine freiheitliche Islamauslegung zu
etablieren<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Von<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Ahmad Mansour</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Das Vorhaben der deutschen Regierung,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
kurzfristig eine gesetzliche Regelung<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
zur Legalisierung religiöser Zwangsbeschneidungen von Kindern zu erlassen,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
setzt da leider genau das falsche Signal.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Der Autor ist palästinensischer
Israeli und lebt in Deutschland.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Der Diplompsychologe berät die European Foundation for Democracy<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
und ist Mitglied der Arbeitsgruppe "Präventionsarbeit mit
Jugendlichen" der Deutschen Islam Konferenz.</span></i></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article108327689/Stellt-euch-der-Debatte.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">WEITER:</span></a></span></i></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Auch DIE ZEIT meldet sich zu
dem Thema! Weiterverbreitet</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">durch</span><br />
<span style="background: white;"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.presseurop.eu/de/content/article/2381681-warum-beschneidung-wehtut" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">http://www.presseurop.eu/de/content/article/2381681-warum-beschneidung-wehtut</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">Also, die Diskussion, ausgelöst durch
das Kölner Urteil, entfaltet den WUNDEN SCHNITT-PUNKT der
verschiedenen Interessen mit seltener Offen und Vielfältigkeit!!</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;"> </span><br />
<span style="background: white;">MICHAEL ROLOFF</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute and
Society</span> <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="yshortcuts"><span style="background-color: #dceeff; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Offener Brief</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span class="yiv1940766814stichwort"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">zur</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Beschneidung</span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
„</span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Religionsfreiheit</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">kann kein<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Freibrief</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">für<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gewalt</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">sein“<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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<span class="yiv1940766814datum"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">21.07.2012</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">· In der Beschneidungsdebatte appellieren mehr
als 100 Mediziner und Juristen an<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bundesregierung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und</span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bundestag</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">die Kinder</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">stärker zu schützen. Hier ist der volle Brief.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Anschauliches und Hörbares zum
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<span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Zitat</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">aus der Homepage der<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388;">DPtV</span></span>:<span style="color: #454545;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
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<span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Diskussion</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">um<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Beschneidung</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">von Jungen<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">24.07.12</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Brief des Bundesvorsitzenden<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><i><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Dieter
Best</span></i></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></i></b></span><b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">an die<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><i><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bundesregierung</span></i></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">In
dem Brief schließt sich die DPtV, vertreten durch den Bundesvorsitzenden Dieter
Best,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
der Bitte an, keine gesetzliche Lösung ohne eine gründliche Sichtung<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
der Forschungsergebnisse über mögliche somatische und psychische Folgen der
Beschneidung von Jungen zu treffen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://www.deutschepsychotherapeutenvereinigung.de/fileadmin/main/g-datei-download/News/2012/Brief_BMJ_-_Beschneidung.pdf" target="_blank" title="Leitet Herunterladen der Datei ein"><span style="color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">Vollständiger Brief</span><span style="color: #c61b36; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"><br />
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<b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://www.deutschepsychotherapeutenvereinigung.de/fileadmin/main/g-datei-download/News/2012/Literaturhinweise_zum_Thema.pdf" target="_blank" title="Leitet Herunterladen der Datei ein"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">Literaturhinweise</span></span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Es ist schon verwunderlich,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
wie sich ein<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Verbandsvorsitzender</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">im Namen seiner ungefragten<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mitglieder</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
in politische Diskussionen einmischt<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und das im Namen eines Verbandes,
der mit seinem Namen die Öffentlichkeit täuscht,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
indem er vorgibt,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Öffentliche Sitzung des Ethikrates zum Thema Beschneidung im August</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Pressemitteilung Deutscher Ethikrat, Ulrike
Florian, 27.07.2012 10:34</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Öffentliche Sitzung des Ethikrates zum Thema
Beschneidung im August</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Zudem richtet der Ethikrat eine Arbeitsgruppe
zum Thema Biosicherheit und Forschungsfreiheit ein und beschließt Thema der
Jahrestagung 2013.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Am 23. August 2012 wird sich der Ethikrat im
Rahmen einer öffentlichen Plenarsitzung mit dem aktuell diskutierten Thema der
Beschneidung von minderjährigen Jungen aus religiösen Gründen beschäftigen. Die
Ratsmitglieder Peter Dabrock, Wolfram Höfling, Ilhan Ilkilic, Leo Latasch und
Reinhard Merkel werden in Impulsreferaten strafrechtliche, religiös-kulturelle,
medizinische und ethische Aspekte der Beschneidung in den Blick nehmen und im
Plenum zur Diskussion stellen.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Darüber hinaus wird der Ethikrat im Auftrag der
Bundesregierung eine Stellungnahme zum Thema „Biosicherheit und
Forschungsfreiheit – Forschungsförderung und Umgang mit Forschungsergebnissen“
erarbeiten. Hintergrund dieses Auftrags sind Forschungen in den USA und den
Niederlanden, bei denen Grippeviren erzeugt wurden, die im Vergleich zu ihren
Wildformen leichter zwischen Säugetieren übertragbar sind. Im Verlauf seiner
gestrigen Plenarsitzung hat der Ethikrat beschlossen, eine Arbeitsgruppe zu
diesem Thema einzurichten, und die nächsten Arbeitsschritte festgelegt.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Im Mittelpunkt der Jahrestagung 2013 wird die
Forschung am Menschen, vor allem mit Blick auf Fragen des Probanden- und
Patientenschutzes im globalen Kontext, stehen.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Weitere Informationen unter<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.ethikrat.org/" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">http://www.ethikrat.org/.</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Josef Joffe von DIE ZEIT meldet sich zu Worte in der
Beschneidungsangelegehenheit, im WALL STREET JOURNAL, dem nach zu urteilen sind
die Neo-Cons fuer die Beschneidung und ich fuer die Abschneidung der Neo-Cons!</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Urlaubshalber
ein wenig spät reagiere ich auf diese Mail<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Liebe Leser und Seher,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">das Video tönt nur so von
mechanistischer Grausamkeit. Hier will es jemand besonders richtig machen und
Nichtkönner beeindrucken. Wir kennen diese sadistische Version des Lehrens.
Z.B. Lehrer und andere Professoren setzen auf diese Art Anreize, so mal richtig
zeigen, was Sache ist und wie kompliziert das ist, was der Lehrer kann und wie
hart es ist, sich das anzueignen. Das ist Moment eines jeden Initiationsritus.
Auch der Miniinitiationsriten einzelner Lehrstunden.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Zum Vulgärrationalismus großer
Teile der bisherigen Diskussion gesellt sich mit dem Video das<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><u>abschreckende Beispiel</u>, so
isoliert wie die Operationsabdeckung als einfache Fortsetzung der
Argumentation, wenn man das denn so nennen kann.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jedenfalls habe ich andere
Erfahrungen aus dem Miterleben von Beschneidung sammeln können als die hier
isolierten. Das heißt nicht, dass die Beschneidung jeglicher Grausamkeit
entbehrt. Grausamkeit ist zwar nicht die Bedingung, aber der notwendige
Begleiter der Souveränität, der Souveränität der Mitglieder auch einer
demokratischen Gesellschaft. Es bleibt deren Kultivierung. Das heißt im Großen
und Ganzen, dass sie artikuliert werden kann und nicht hinter dem Kitsch des
Menschelns zurücktreten muss.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Meine Erfahrungen haben mich nicht
zu einem Verfechter oder Verteidiger der Beschneidung gemacht, aber sie haben
mir große Achtung vor denen beigebracht, die dafür eintreten (sicher nicht in
dieser bescheuerten klinischen Form, wobei klinisch hier von clean im Sinne der
aseptischen Isolierung zu verstehen ist). Hierbei wird genauso verfahren, wie
es jetzt die Kritiker tun, isolierend und alles richtig machend.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Erfahren konnte ich die
Beschneidung als ein Ritual der Bindung und Entbindung. Der Schmerz ist
sympathetisch und schafft Gesellung bei der Trennung von der Mutter (ich
schrieb hier bereits davon), danach gibt es ein merkliches Aufatmen, der
Schmerz als ein ritualisierter trifft auf unterschiedliche Art und Weise alle
Beteiligten, ebenso die Erleichterung für den Moment weiterem Leiden entronnen
zu sein. (Die im Film gezeigte Ritualisierung ist eine ganz andere. Sie ist die
des Operationssaales, die schon ein Verballhornung des Rituals der Beschneidung
ist. Da ist an sich schon die rationalisierte Form mit der Ausrede alles
richtig zu machen, oft in Fällen, in denen Gesellung nicht mehr herstellbar
ist, also keine 10 Männer zusammenzubringen sind, die beim Ritual dabei sein
sollen. Oder vielleicht sogar schon die eine vorläufige Verheimlichung der
Beschneidung, die dann nur noch als Marke beim Beschnittenen auftaucht, nicht
mehr aber in der Form der Zeugenschaft). Schmerz als überstandener kann, wie
jegliche Schuld, Gesellung bilden. Außerdem kommt der Sohn, als wieder
gewonnener zur Mutter zurück und alle gemeinsam, jedenfalls habe ich es so
erlebt, essen mehr oder weniger feierlich gemeinsam, einige wohl auch mit der
Reaktivierung des Schmerzes oder von Trennungen überhaupt. Manche essen und
trinken dabei etwas zuviel.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Wenn durchaus glaubwürdig später
einige berichten (und vielleicht wären hier die Berichte der Zeugen noch mit
einzuarbeiten), dass sie traumatisiert worden seien, so muss das, ich traue
mich das kaum zu schreiben, nicht mit der Beschneidung zu tun haben, sondern
die Beschneidung kann der „dankbare“ Anlass sein, einen Schmerz von woanders
festzumachen. Die Beschneidung saugt das förmlich auf, um so mehr je mehr,
diese als solcher Auslöser gesellschaftlich angeboten wird. Aber nicht nur
dann. – Bedarf es nicht solcher Marken, die die Aggressivität aufsaugen, die
sie binden und benennbar machen.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mich verwundert bei
Psychoanalytikern die Simplizität der Zuordnung von Ursache und Wirkung, die
Vernachlässigung der immer schmerzlichen und freudigen Arbeit der Trennung und
Gesellung. Es wiederholt sich hier ein ähnlicher Objektivismus wie seinerzeit
in der schwarzen Pädagogik. (Ich konnte miterleben, wie Norbert Elias wütend
über sich hinauswuchs als er Katharina Rutschky begegnete und ihr in aller, mit
Anstrengung hergestellten Ruhe nahebrachte, in Zusammenhängen zu denken und
nicht etwas, was man Faktum zu nennen gewohnt ist, als an sich bedeutsam zu
hypostasieren.)<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Demnächst bekommen wir dann
„grausame“ Filme von Geburten zu sehen mit der Folgerung, dass doch lieber alle
Kinder per Kaiserschnitt geholt würden. Oder besser noch per Kaiserschnittchen.
Es gibt sadistische und einfach blöde Geburtshelfer und Geburtshelferinnen.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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anstößig, weil in der Verurteilung ein humanistisch getarnter Rationalismus
greift, der isoliert, ahistorisch ist, Geschichte und Religion meint
rechtspositivistisch übergehen zu können nach dem Muster wie einst Carnap
nachwies, dass Platon lauter Unsinn geschrieben habe.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Das ist für mich eine in der Tat
gewaltsame Bedrohung, die ich auch aus der Universität im Umgang mit Forschung,
mit Ungewissheit und mit Lehre bestens kenne.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Es geht also bei der Diskussion um
die Beschneidung nicht nur um das Ausgesagte, sondern wie in der Psychoanalyse
um das Aussagen. Und thematisch geht es um die Kultivierung von nicht
vermeidbarer Aggressivität.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Die Verteidiger des Nichteingriffs
in das Leben von Kindern, dass diese später selber entscheiden können sollen in
allen wesentlichen Fragen des Lebens, versuchen auf etwas merkwürdige Weise
einem spätestens seit Rousseau bekannten Paradox zu entkommen, wie es möglich
sei vernünftig zu erziehen, wenn die Vernunft noch nicht da ist.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ich habe es in der
psychoanalytischen Praxis mit Analysanten zu tun, die die Gewalt erlebt haben,
die kaum artikulierbare, die darin liegt, dass kaum ein Erwachsener in ihr
Leben eingegriffen hat, sprich Verantwortung übernommen hat in
unübersichtlichen Situationen – gerade auch nicht gegen den Widerstand der
Analysanten, sich vielmehr haben von jeder Unlustäußerung verführen
lassen. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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ulrich.schultz-venrath:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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danke für dieses Video! Das sollte man allen Befürwortern der Beschneidung im
Säuglingsalter zukommen lassen...<br />
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Mit besten Grüßen<br />
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Ulrich Schultz-Venrath<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Dr. Pazzini,</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Ich hoffe, dass Ihre Ferien erholend waren, denn<br />
- um mein mich sonst beschäftigendes Thema zu streifen - "Die schönen
Tage von Aranjuez"<br />
<a href="http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2011/12/die-schonen-tage-von-aranjuez.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";">http://handke-drama.blogspot.
com/2011/12/die-schonen-tage- von-aranjuez.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><br />
sind jetzt vorbei, eigentlich schon im
Frühling dieser ehemaligen jetzt zu heissen Immobilie der Spanischen
Könige südlich von Madrid.</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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erlaube mir Ihnen anstatt eines weitschweifenden Essay, teilweise nur mit
Annotationen auf Ihr Schreiben zu antworten.</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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die Beschneidung, das Bris, ist Überbleibsel der Opferung, das dann auf
Kastration vermindert wurde, und jetzt nur noch eine ja nicht nur symbolische
Abschneidung der Vorhaut mit ihren 5,000 Nerven besteht, aber als Ritus noch
weiter vermindert werden<br />
könnte auf einen Mückenstich der nur einen Tropfen Blut hinterlässt, und außer
in ganz wenigen, absolute überempfindlichem Wesen, möglicherweise des Autors
des "Die schoenen Tage von Aranjuez", kaum irgendein Trauma
hinterlassen könnte und sich auch deswegen mit der Deutschen Verfassung
vertragen wird.<br />
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Denn [B] den Ritus, von dem Sie ein besonders schönes Bild hier zu sehen bekommen </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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und an dem Ihnen doch viel lag wenn ich mich recht an ihren erste Stellungnahme
zu dem Thema erinnere, kann sich dann als Kern dieser Gemeinde erhalten
und seiner Erinnerungswelt und seines Kompaktes mit Gott, und wie wichtig
es dieser Gemeinde ist ersehen sie aus diesem Dossier<br />
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also, ich jedenfalls sehe da die Möglichkeit zu einem Ausgleich, zu einem
Kompromiss, wenn da mit einem Mindestmaß von "Rationalität" und gutem
Willen gearbeitet wird.<br />
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Ansonsten, habe ich selbst nichts gegen "Vulgär Rationalismus" oder
Vulgär<br />
Marxismus, genau so wenig wie Vulgär Vögel wie den Pelikan, mein
"Primitivo" der sich einfach in das Wasser wirft, es selbst
seine eigne Bombe, und den Fang den Schlund runter, anstatt als
Reiher brav zu warten, und dann Dialektik der Aufklärungartig auf
verfeinerte Art vorzugehen. Each at its own time and place!.</span></b><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/special/2012/dossier-britmila" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New"; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"> </span><span style="color: #1e66ae; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"><br />
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[C] Aber, lieber Professor, wenn Sie wirklich glauben, dass ein acht Tage alter
Bub von seiner Mutter, mit der er gerade im Begriff ist zum liebäugeln und
Spiegelung, und den Tiefen der Übertragung, während er an der Brust traeumt,
getrennt werden soll oder wird durch das Bris, empfehle ich Ihnen schnellstens
einige Nachhol Kurse. Das potentiale Mutter Soehnchen in ihm kann ihm
wohl später auf andere Art ausgetrieben werden.<br />
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[D] Was Sie über "<i><u>Grausamkeit ist </u></i></span></b><b><i><u><span style="background: yellow; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">zwar nicht</span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> die Bedingung,
aber der notwendige Begleiter der Souveränität, der Souveränität der </span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="background: yellow; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mitglieder</span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> auch einer
demokratischen </span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="background: yellow; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gesellschaft</span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"</span></u></i></b><b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> verzapfen ist aber bar sogar des Vulgär Rationalen. Dementsprechend
sollte man wohl jedem Christlichen Bub, spätestens bei der Taufe, kurz an ein
kleine Kreuz nageln um ihn prophylaktisch auf die Grausamkeit die ihn
irgendwann schon erwischt, vorzubereiten, oder mindestens mit ein paar
Heftzwecken an den berühmten INRI [Iron Nails Ran In] vorzubereiten. Ditto wenn
Sie schreiben " <i><u>Analyzanten die die Gewalt erlebt haben, die
kaum artikulierbare, die darin liegt, dass kaum ein Erwachsener in ihr Leben
eingegriffen hat, sprich Verantwortung übernommen hat in unübersichtlichen
Situationen" </u></i>- kann ich mir kaum vorstellen dass Sie in diesen wahrlich unglücklichen
Fällen der Vernachlässigung<br />
und seiner Folgen an den Bris denken.<br />
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Ansonsten munkel Sie so über dis und das, was mit der Sache nichts zu tun hat,
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<span style="background: white;">Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, lieber Herr
Pazzini,</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">was wir auf Thomas Mann's Zauberberg unter
anderem lernen können ist, den schneidenden Einflüsterungen der jesuitischen
Verführer zu mißtrauen. Ein Naphta — dessen Name nicht von ungefähr an's
Rohbenzin erinnert, das man besser nicht ins Feuer gießen sollte — mag zwar
zunächst mit seinen provokativen Tabubrüchen attraktiver erscheinen als der
brave italienische Aufklärer Settembrini, aber am Ende ist es der
Ursprungsmythiker, der sich selbstzerstörerisch die Kugel gibt, während sein
von ihm zum Duell geforderter Gegner verschonend in die Luft schießt. Die Szene
läßt sich, zumindest einseitig, durchaus als Präfiguration des ersten
Weltkriegs lesen, in dem sich die Spur des Hans Castorp, unseres „Sorgenkinds
des Lebens“, später verliert.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Den Apologeten der Grausamkeit aber ist es schon
immer eigen, die konkret sinnlichen Folgen ihrer Brandstiftereien zu verleugnen
und, wenn sie doch mal real oder medial damit konfrontiert werden, dies als
unästhetischen „Vulgärrationalismus“ zu denunzieren. Wie Ernst Jünger vom
Stahlgewitter schreibend zu faseln und es für andere zu inszenieren ist denn
doch etwas anderes, als es selbst zu erfahren. In den Les Chants de Maldoror
von Lautréamont läßt sich der Schiffbruch und Überlebenskampf der anderen
besonders schön vom hohen, sicheren Küstenfelsen aus beobachten und von Mann zu
Mann genießen.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Sie, die Beschneidung, oder die Grausamkeit, die
sie repräsentiert, wird, wie es der redende Lapsus Calami (Neutrum statt
Feminimum) verrät, unambivalent mit dem Es, welches es nach dem Motto similia
similibus curentur zu kultivieren gilt, verwechselt, so daß dann das 'Große und
Ganze' herhalten muß, um die Selbstverständlichkeit einer sich selbst
aufklärenden Aufklärung, daß auch die gewalttätige Grundlage der Zivilisation
„artikuliert werden kann und nicht hinter dem Kitsch des Menschelns
zurücktreten muss", für trübe Absichten zu vereinnahmen. Gerade die
Zweideutigkeit des Triebgrunds, seine gewalttätige und konstruktive Seite, ist
es, die das Bündnis — jene große und unverzichtbare Errungenschaft des
jüdischen Monotheismus, notwendig und möglich macht. Gäbe es nur die Dämonie,
ließe sich kein Vertrag schließen, kein Gesetz errichten. Oder, um es mit
Talleyrand zu sagen: "On peut tout faire avec les baïonnettes, sauf
s'asseoir dessus".</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Doch der ontologiesierende, reritualisierende
Gestus will nichts mehr vom Schibboleth einer Minima Moralia, vermeidbares Leid
zu vermeiden, wissen. Denn jeder Kult, der in Frage gestellt werden kann, hat
seine ursprüngliche, kollektive Verbindlichkeit bereits verloren und verfällt
dem Anachronismus. Deshalb wird er von seinen Parteigängern um so trotziger und
blutiger behauptet. Aus der Notwendigkeit, leidvolle Trennungen (wie die von
der Mutter) zu symbolisieren, konstruieren sie sich die Rechtfertigung einer
Überbietung durch Opfer - statt deren zivilisierende Übersetzung und
Sublimierung zu befördern. Da wird Kunst schlicht mit Kult, aus dem sie zwar
kommt, über den sie aber wesentlich und qualitativ durch die sukzessive
Aufhebung der Opfer hinausgeht, verwechselt und kurzgeschlossen. Welch ein
Unterschied ums Ganze zwischen dem Garnrollenspiel des o-Kindes in „Jenseits
des Lustprinzips“ und der Barbarei, wenn sich Religionsgemeinschaften oder
Stammesgesellschaften festlich und brutal über die Präputien und Labien ihrer
wehrlosen Kinder hermachen! Am Ende läuft es dann doch nur auf die alte, simple
Identifikation mit dem Aggressor hinaus, über die viele in ihrem Leben eben
nicht hinauskommen: das Trauma, das ihnen in passiver Position angetan wurde,
aktiv weiterzugeben.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Insofern ist es vielleicht gar nicht schlecht,
daß heute zu diesem Anlaß und in unserem Gemeinwesen „keine 10 Männer
zusammenzubringen sind“, denn deren ebenso homophobe wie verdrängt homophile
Bündelei ist es ja vor allem, die mit solch affirmativ aufgefaßten
Abraham-Isaak-Unterwerfungen installiert werden soll. Liegt doch der
progressive Sinn dieser alttestamentarischen Geschichte nicht in ihrer
kultisch-initiatorischen pars pro toto Re-Inszenierung, sondern in der
Opfersubstitution, die dort zugunsten einer gesetzlichen Ordnung ermöglicht
wird. In den Worten prophetischer Kritik: „Denn ich habe Lust an der Liebe, und
nicht am Opfer, und an der Erkenntnis Gottes, und nicht am Brandopfer.“ (Hosea
6.6) Unnötig zugefügter, zumal früher Schmerz bildet Kriegergesellschaften,
keine human-erotischen Zivilisationen.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Wenn schließlich in der berechtigten Kritik der
medizinisch-medialen Rationalisierung noch die Phantasie eines ‚Geburtsfilmchens’
herhalten muß, um die sadistisch ausgeübte Praxis der Beschneidung als
unumgänglichen Akt der Subjekt- und Kulturbildung zu rechtfertigen, offenbart
dies in der Tat einen misogynen Platonismus, der die sterbliche, verletzliche
Leiblichkeit haßt und, weil dies glücklicherweise so nicht mehr ganz
gesellschaftsfähig ist, ersatzweise auf den Rechtspositivismus, der sich
erdreistet hat, jene zu schützen, einschlägt.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">So kann übers Ziel in den Abgrund
hinausschießen, wer durchaus sympathisch die Grenzsetzung und die notwendig
schmerzlichen Eingriffe favorisiert, die Erziehung und Psychoanalyse in der
Herausbildung jener leisen „Stimme des Intellekts“, die nicht ruht, „ehe sie
sich Gehör geschafft hat“, tatsächlich erfordern. Damit sich diese für Freud
einzig realistische Hoffnung auf Fortschritt und Zukunft der Gattung erfüllt,
bedarf es eines Geistes, der im Bündnis mit seinen fleischlichen Verkörperungen
und dem Begehren gedeiht. Vernunft aber, die sich zum Anwalt des Opferkults
macht, statt ihn zu transzendieren, zerstört sich, wie Adorno einmal zu Lukcás
bemerkt, selbst. Unseren Kindern die Wahrheiten der Ananke blutig einzubleuen,
statt die nächste Generation durch Zärtlichkeit und Strenge, Lust und wirkliche
Autorität für eine balancierte Auseinandersetzung mit der Not des Lebens zu
gewinnen, wird kein gelingendes Miteinander hervorbringen, da „eine solche
Kultur (…) weder Aussicht hat, sich dauernd zu erhalten, noch es verdient"
(Freud, 1927c, 333).</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Mit freundlichen Grüßen</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Frank Werner Pilgram</span><br />
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lieber Herr Pilgrim,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">vielleicht haben Sie es getroffen. Vielleicht
geht es bei mir um die Identifikation mit dem Aggressor. Aber die Tatsache,
dass das sein könnte, was auch nach Analysen nicht auszuschließen ist, gibt
doch nicht das Recht, dies mir oder jemand anders als Argument überzubraten.
Diese Feststellung kann auch umstandslos gegen Sie gewendet werden: Wurden Sie
vielleicht angegriffen von undialektischen Formen der Vernunft.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Es könnte ja auch um etwas anderes gehen, als um
das, was da schnell identifizierend wahrgenommen wird. Es könnte.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Wieso bringen Sie „Beschneidung“ und „Krieg“
zusammen? Oder haben Sie nicht bei der wahl des Betreffs Ihrer Mail an Erasmus
von Rotterdams Wendung gedacht „Dulce bellum inexpertis“ (Adagia 3001)? In
dieser Adagia stellt Erasmus viele Fragen zum Krieg, zur Demokratisierung.
Unter anderem ist darin die verführerische und zur unmittelbaren Zustimmung
reizende, suggestive Feststellung enthalten: „Der Mensch aber ist nackt, zart,
wehrlos und schwach, nichts kann man an den Gliedern sehen, was für einen Kampf
oder eine Gewalttätigkeit bestimmt wäre“. Und dennoch scheint das manchmal zu
einer Enttäuschung zu werden, obwohl die Beobachtung getroffen etwa an
Kleinstkindern, positivistisch gesehen zutrifft.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">In der Hauptsache wollte ich hinweisen auf die
aus meiner Erfahrung und Überzeugung gefährliche Vereindeutigung von Phänomenen
und ihrer Bedeutung für das individuelle Subjekt. Hier am Beispiel der
Stellungnahmen um die Beschneidung.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Zum Zweiten halte ich es für eine Illusion, dass
man solange ein Kind nicht erwachsen ist, dieses ohne Übergriff erziehen,
(sich) bilden (lassen) oder sozialisieren kann. Der Versuch der Vermeidung von
Übergriffen, Eingriffen scheint mir der Wunsch zu sein, etwas Unberührtes,
etwas Heiles, etwas Unschuldiges zu bewahren (,wenn man es selber schon
verloren hat). Der Anlass ist in der Orientierungsschwierigkeit nach dem
Scheitern von Geschichtsphilosophien, Teleologien aller Art seit dem Ende des
19. Jh. zu suchen. Eine immer noch irritierende Antwort darauf ist die
Psychoanalyse. Eine schlichtere Antwort ist eine Pädagogik vom Kinde aus und
zum Kinde hin, „Kind“ als Ziel, Vorbild und Grund zugleich. Das hat immerhin
neue Aufmerksamkeit gesetzt und z.B. die oft unmittelbar gedachte Umsetzung der
Ziele der Erziehung durch Schläge, also einen direkten, als eindeutig
phantasierten Übergriff als untragbar sanktioniert.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Ich kann hier die Argumentation von Derrida
bezüglich des Zusammenhang von Souveränität und Grausamkeit nur hinweisen.
Derrida, Jacques (2000): Seelenstände der Psychoanalyse. Das Unmögliche
jenseits einer souveränen Grausamkeit. Vortag vor den États généraux de la
Psychanalyse am 10. Juli 2000, Frankfurt/M.: Suhrkamp 2002.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Den Zusammenhang von Souveränität und
Grausamkeit habe ich nicht apologetisch einführen wollen, sondern auf einen
fast tragisch zu nennenden Zusammenhang hingewiesen, der eine Herausforderung
darstellt. Insofern bitte ich zur Kenntnis zu nehmen, dass ich mich ein wenig
von Apologeten der Grausamkeit unterscheide. Ich werde mich voraussichtlich
auch nicht umbringen.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Mit Adorno halte ich Kitsch für einen Versuch
mit der Angst umzugehen, sie gar zu verleugnen, mit der Angst, die etwa die
Konfrontation mit nicht Beherrschbarem macht. Siehe Adorno, Theodor W., Minima
Moralia, Suhrkamp, 1970, S.301-304 (Abschnitt mit der Überschrift:
„Kunstfigur“.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Und ich frage Sie, Herr Pilgrim, über welchen
verborgenen Informationsquellen Sie verfügen, wenn Sie mir zuschreiben, dass
ich vom „sicheren Küstenfelsen aus“ beobachte. Soll ich ein Foto meiner Narben
oder Expeditionen ins wirkliche Leben beilegen?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Es geht sicher darum, vermeidbares Leid zu
vermeiden. Aber wer kann das absehen? Wer kann, wann beurteilen, dass etwas
vermeidbar ist oder war oder sein wird. Geht es um kleineres oder größer Leid?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Wie steht es um den vielleicht etwas zu
einfachen, schrägen Vergleich mit der Impfung? (Auch eine Form des Übergriffs,
meine Kinder haben durchaus nicht freudig gejubelt)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Sie schreiben: „Denn jeder Kult, der in Frage
gestellt werden kann, hat seine ursprüngliche, kollektive Verbindlichkeit
bereits verloren und verfällt dem Anachronismus. Deshalb wird er von seinen
Parteigängern um so trotziger und blutiger behauptet.“</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Welche Muslime oder Juden wollen trotziger und
sogar blutiger die Beschneidung gestalten? Was heißt in Frage stellen? Nicht
dadurch, dass irgend jemand eine Frage stellt oder ein rationalistisch
begründetes Urteil fällt, hat ein Kult seine Verbindlichkeit verloren.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Es geht mir darum, zu sagen, dass es nicht an
sich ein Fortschritt in der Menschlichkeit ist, wenn die Beschneidung
abgeschafft wäre. Nähmen wir es für ein „Symptom“, dann müssten wir doch
konzedieren, dass es sich um eine kreative Lösung eines Konflikt handelt. Was
ist der Konflikt, für was ist die Beschneidung eine Lösung? Ein „Symptom“
bekommt man nicht durch Richtersprüche aus der Welt oder auch nicht durch
Vulgärrationalismus.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="background: white;">Ein Symptom ist verflochten mit einem Kontext;
das direkte Angehen eines Symptoms bringt (psychoanalytisch gedacht) in der
Regel nichts. Und zu dem hier zu verhandelnden „Symptom“ gehört doch auch, dass
es bei Semiten auftaucht. Gegen die einen gab es Kreuzzüge, gegen die anderen
den Versuch der Vernichtung mitten in Europa. Entgleiste Grausamkeit,
Gewalttätigkeit. Und Rechtfertigt wurde das z.T. mit deren Unmenschlichkeit,
Minderwertigkeit, Grausamkeit.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Sie schreiben von der „Überbietung durch Opfer“.
Welches Opfer wird durch Beschneidung überboten?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Ich halte die Beschneidung nicht für notwendig.
Für notwendig halte ich die kulturelle, gesellschaftliche Auseinandersetzung
damit, was meinem Erkenntnisstand nach vermutlich durch Beschneidung
symbolisiert wird. Vielleicht ist im Kern auch bei der Beschneidung ein
Konkretismus zu bemerken, des Versuchs einer wirksamen Einschreibung des Gesetzes
in den Körper.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Übrigens: Was wäre, wenn jener Knabe des
Garnrollenspiels beschnitten gewesen wäre. Wäre es dann ein Agieren?</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Machen sich Muslime und Juden „festlich brutal“
über ihren Nachwuchs her? Wollten Sie das sagen? Dann würde ich sagen, dass mir
dererlei „Argumente“ bekannt vorkommen.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Es ist auch durchaus einer Unterscheidung wert,
ob man vom Homophilie spricht, von gelebter Homosexualität und einer
homosexuellen Struktur. Es ist durchaus einer Überlegung wert, ob nicht alle
Institutionalisierung strukturell pervers ist, im Versuch, etwas mit
wiederholbaren Abläufen zu beherrschen. Das wird misslingen. Aber diese
Differenz im Misslingen, setzt Widerspruchs- und Artikulationspotential frei,
das heißt Kultur und im besonderen auch Kunst.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Vielleicht habe ich im Zorn geschossen. Mein
Zorn speist sich aus den Erfahrungen in unseren Bildungsinstitutionen und aus
der Analyse mit rationalistisch sozialisierten Analysanten, „traumatisiert“
durch Mutlosigkeit, Unabgegrenztheit, Liebenswürdigkeit erheischenden
Erwachsenen. Diese Traumatisierung kann man sich nicht als einen Eingriff von
außen vorstellen, sondern im Fehlen einer deutlich artikulierbaren Spur,
Einschreibung, die es schwer macht, diese zu „lesen“ und eine Differenz dagegen
zu entwickeln. Es fehlt die Erfahrung einer Artikulation der Grausamkeit.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Vielleicht bekommen wir es ja hin, uns
gegenseitig durch die Undeutlichkeiten und Bedrohungen zu begleiten.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Herzliche Grüße</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Karl-Josef Pazzini</span><br />
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"Niemand hat das Recht zu gehorchen" lehnte sie - Hannah Ahrndt alle
Rückgriffe auf religiöse Dogmen zur Begründung von Gewissen und Moral ab, weil
sie zutiefst davon überzeugt war, dass die auf solchen Wegen erzeugten Werte
manipulierbar sind. In religiös organisierten Systemen kann jeder Moralkodex
beliebig umgedeutet werden; wogegen die<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: #D8DBD8; color: #366388; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Vorstellung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background-color: #d8dbd8; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background-color: #d8dbd8; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">einer gemeinschaftlichen<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: #D8DBD8; color: #366388; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ethik</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background-color: #d8dbd8; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background-color: #d8dbd8; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;">immer wieder neu überdacht und ausgehandelt
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">und eine
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es eine kontuierlich blühende Diskussion über das Thema Beschneidung gibt,
in dem sich das gros der Mitglieder, aber auch nicht alle, gegen den
Brauch des Bris wenden. Dies können Sie an der unten beigefügten Auswahl der
glaube ich meisten wichtigsten Stellungnahmen ersehen, numeriert so dass die
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viel Hals und Beinbruch bei einer Versammlung wo es wohl hitzig zugehen wird.
Mir selber, außer Hitzigkeilt, ist ein Kompromiss eingefallen den Sie am Ende
ergattern könne. Ansonsten, sollte ein Mohel des Ratio erwünscht sein, meine
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bbpp entspricht, wenn der Kollege Roloff solche Stellungnahmen abgibt unter
Nutzung von Mauls aus unserer Liste. Ich möchte nicht vor den Karren von Herrn
Roloff gespannt werden, sozusagen als Ausweis seiner Liberalität und auch nicht
in Zusammenhängen publiziert werden, die ich durch die Teilnahme an der
Diskussion in dieser Liste und dem damit verbundenen Vertrauensschutz nicht
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die sich fuer das Thema "Beschneidung" interessieren und
engagieren, dass ich Material, Links und auch die Hauptbeitraege dieser
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> niedergelassen habe. Vorwegs entschuldige
ich mich, oder versuche es jedenfalls, dass ich nicht erst die individuellen
Autoren um Erlaubnis gebeten. Also wenn jemand damit nicht einverstanden ist,
dass die Meinung ausserhalb dieses Gremiums erscheint, brauchen sie mir nur
kurz Nein zu hinterlassen. Auch auf das Dossier der Juedischen
Allgemeinen werde ich zurueckgreifen, da es interessante Standpunkte
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">http://www.facebook.com/mike.roloff1?ref=name</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Also wenn jemand damit nicht einverstanden ist,
dass die Meinung ausserhalb dieses Gremiums erscheint, brauchen sie mir nur
kurz Nein zu hinterlassen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lieber Michael Roloff,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 18.0pt;">die Regel lautet umgekehrt: Wer erlaubt,
dass seine Beiträge in dieser Liste ausserhalb der Liste veröffentlicht werden,
muß dies genehmigen, muß also dazu JA sagen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 18.0pt;">Das Urheberrechtsgesetz erlaubt sogar
die Forderung von Abmahngebühren durch die Autoren oder ihre Rechtsanwälte,
wenn Texte unerlaubt veröffentlicht werden..</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 18.0pt;">Herzliche Grüße</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #1f497d; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gerd Böttcher.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b><br />
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"><big><big><big><big><b><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: small;"><big><i><span style="font-size: small;"><big><big><big>Psychologischer Psychotherapeut
Lehrtherapeut und Supervisor bei der Berliner Akademie für Psychotherapie
Präsident der Gesellschaft zur Förderung der kulinarischen Künste (GFKK)
Herausgeber der „Berliner Blätter für Psychoanalyse und Psychotherapie“ </big></big></big>
<a href="mailto:redaktion@bbpp.org"> </a><a href="http://www.bbpp.de/">http://www.bbpp.de</a></span></i>
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der wohl lieber in der Kueche bleiben sollte anstatt sich mit Seelsorge zu bekuemmern</span></big></b></big></big></big></big></big></big></pre>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">die Art Ihres Zusammenklaubens und der Eifer, dies an den
Ethikrat weiter zu geben, mit einer tendenziösen Zusammenfassung, wo gerade
die, die mit ihrer Meinung nicht übereinstimmen als Glaubwürdigkeitssalz in der
faden Suppe fungieren, finde ich gemein.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Sie entschuldigen sich im Übrigen nicht vorwegs, sondern
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Meine Beiträge zu diesem Thema können Sie, wenn der Zusammenhang
ersichtlich ist, der Antwortcharakter auf eine andere Position und die
Weiterentwicklung im Laufe des Austauschs gerne verwenden. Dies möchte ich aber
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Nicht einverstanden bin ich mit Ihrer Zusammenfassung. Das
klingt so, als wenn sie eine gesicherte Aussage machen könnten über das, was
die Teilnehmerinnen an dieser Liste denken. Und Sie die Erlaubnis hätten diese
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Erbost bin ich auch darüber, dass Sie den einfältig sadistischen
Film wieder im Betreff nutzen, nicht aber, dass ich zB dessen
Kontextualisierung kritisiert habe, sie aber eine andere Passage von mir
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Am 06.08.2012 um 16:59 schrieb Michael
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">Beschneidungen: keine</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;">einheitliche Rechtspraxis</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Das Urteil des Kölner Landgerichts
zur Strafbarkeit<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
religiöser Beschneidungen schlägt politisch große Wellen,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
hat in der Rechtspraxis aber zunächst nur wenig Folgen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Deshalb haben sich die meisten
Staatsanwaltschaften</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">noch nicht festgelegt, wie sie</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">in solchen Fällen entscheiden
wollen. Eine</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ausnahme bildet Baden-Württemberg.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Dort bleibt die religiöse
Beschneidung von</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jungen grundsätzlich straffrei,
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">medizinisch korrekt ausgeführt wird.
Die</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">zuständigen
Generalstaatsanwaltschaften</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">in Stuttgart und Karlsruhe haben
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">angekündigt, in solchen Fällen
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<b><span style="color: #4b4c4e; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">nicht zu ermitteln, sondern die
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<b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://www.arzt-am-abend.de/mail/Arzt_am_Abend_120806.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #666666; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">http://www.arzt-am-abend.de/mail/Arzt_am_Abend_120806.pdf</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Lieber
Herr Pazzini<br />
Sie schreiben " </span></b><b><i><u><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Es geht mir darum, zu sagen, dass es
nicht an sich ein Fortschritt in der Menschlichkeit ist, wenn die Beschneidung
abgeschafft wäre.</span></u></i></b><b><u><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></u></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">" und tun
dass ohne auf den historischen Hintergrund<br />
der Beschneidung einzugehen. Diesen Hintergrund würde ich
selbst als einen aus nicht vollkommen irrationaler Furcht gemachten
Machtanspruch des Patriarchats bezeichnen, so sieht's jedenfalls aus Oedipaler Sicht
aus, also auch aus einer Art "Ratio" die
sich institutionalisiert hat. Ich dagegen halte es für einen
Fortschritt, wie ja auch gewisse Reform Jüdischen Gemeinden die schon
so etwas wie meinen Kompromiss Mückenstich praktizieren. </span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Außerdem schreiben
sie "<i><u> </u></i></span></b><b><i><u><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Zum Zweiten halte ich es für eine
Illusion, dass man solange ein Kind nicht erwachsen ist, dieses ohne Übergriff
erziehen, (sich) bilden (lassen) oder sozialisieren kann.</span></u></i></b><b><i><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">" </span></u></i></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Also, zurück zum Knüppel,
warum nicht unsern Islamischen Citoyen ein bisserl Sharia praktizieren
lassen, und nicht nur bei Bankiers? Meines Erachtens nach sind Kinder sehr wie
Hunde, sie erziehen sich im grossen ganzen<br />
selbst da sie die Eltern und älteren Kinder beobachten wie die's tun.
Nachahmung. Die Lethargie der Geschichte in nuce.<br />
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Wie ich schon einmal andeutete, stimme ich vollkommen mit
ihnen überein in diesem von Ihnen erwähnten Fall "</span></b><b><i><u><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Erfahrungen
in unseren Bildungsinstitutionen und aus der Analyse
mit rationalistisch sozialisierten Analysanten, „traumatisiert“
durch Mutlosigkeit, Unabgegrenztheit, Liebenswürdigkeit erheischenden
Erwachsenen. Diese Traumatisierung kann man sich nicht als einen
Eingriff von außen vorstellen, sondern im Fehlen einer
deutlich artikulierbaren Spur, Einschreibung, die es schwer macht,
diese zu „lesen“ und eine Differenz dagegen zu entwickeln. Es fehlt die
Erfahrung einer Artikulation der Grausamkeit,"</span></u></i></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> außer
eben Ihrer Suggestion dass das Bris dem Fehlen der Grausamkein Abhilfe
schnellstens und fruehenst leistet!<br />
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</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Sie schreiben, dass der Zorn Sie vielleicht geleitet hat.
Mich hat das Mitgefühl motiviert, erhitzt - sowie auch jemand
nur von einem Schnitt erzählt oder eine Narbe zeigt zuckt etwas in
mir, ich kann nicht anders, vollkommen hilflos, aber nicht bei der Besichtigung
eigener Narben, einer am Hals, ein unnötiger Kiemen [leider!] der
als Cyst im Alter von 6 Jahren operiert werden musste - [der Familien
Zweig lebt in Hamburg, Fischer and Schiffsmänner alle]! Ein
Blinddarm Narbe und dann eine scimitarartige an der Außenseite des
kleinen Fingers der linken Hand, den ich mir selber zufügte als ich
einem Herrn Ralph Bunche im Sommer 1953 im Camp Pocono an
dem Lake Wallenpaupack, Pennsylvanien, in einer "lean-to"
scheinbar mit solchem Eifer zuhörte dass ich volkommen vergass dass meine
Rechte Hand mit dem extrascharf geschliffenen Messer einen Stiel für meine
Double-bit Ax bastelte. Also erhitzt mich das Thema auch weil</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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mich beinah mehr aufregt wie Krieg, was ich in Zusammenhang bringe damit dass
einer meiner Großväter, der in Buchenwald torturiert wurde, und danach sich
weigerte sein Hemd vor seiner Frau oder seinen Toechte abzunehmen, auch mich
etwas durchzuckte als ich unvorbereitet davon zu bekam; was man vielleicht in
Zusammenhang bringen kann damit dass ich meine Deutsche Kindheit teilweise als
psychologische Tortur erlebt habe. Opfer aller Art wie Sie doch wohl
beobtachtet und erlebt haben, macht ihr Opfergang kaum zu netteren Menschen.
Warum das "Vimeo" Sie so aufgeregt hat verwundert mich, aber ich
korregiere die Folge in meinem Blog und zeig's Ihnen dann. </span></b><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ich wollte sie alle
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dass ich Material, Links und auch die Hauptbeitraege dieser Gegemeinschaft auf<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;">niedergelassen
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Vorwegs entschuldige ich mich, oder versuche es jedenfalls,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
dass ich nicht erst die individuellen Autoren um<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;">Erlaubnis</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;">gebeten.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;">MICHAEL ROLOFF</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lieber Michael Roloff,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">ich bitte dringend darum, die aus dieser
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">aus der unter</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: purple;">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">veröffentlichten Website sofort zu
entfernen, da Du damit das<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Urheberrecht</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">verletzt.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bis zur<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Entfernung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">dieser
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<span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Maillisten</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">der
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mit freundlichen Grüßen</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="mailto:redaktion@bbpp.org" target="_blank"><span style="color: purple;">redaktion@bbpp.org</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: Consolas; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Von: Ritter [mailto:</span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="mailto:Renate.Ritter%40t-online.de" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #1e66ae; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">Renate.Ritter@t-online.de</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Betreff:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">danke</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Sehr<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">geehrter
Herr</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Böttcher,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">ich bin sehr froh über Ihre so klare Haltung,
Ihr sofortiges Eintreten für</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">die Belange der Liste im<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Falle</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">von Michael Roloff.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Ich finde die Beiträge zum Thema Beschneidung so
vielseitig und bedeutsam,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">eine wirkliche<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Diskussion</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">wird angeregt und es geht nicht an, den</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">geschützten Diskussionsraum durch Hinauszerren
in andere Öffentlichkeiten zu</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">verletzen. Wo sonst könnte Herr Pazzini so frei
heraus seine<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Art</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">des Denkens</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">zeigen, und in mir damit<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Widerspruch</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">wie auch Nachdenken anregen? Das finde</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">ich kostbar.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Die<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Verletzung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">des geschützten Raumes ist genau so schlimm wie die</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">Verletzung des Persönlichkeitsrechts der
Autoren.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">vielen<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Dank</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und viele Grüsse -<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Renate
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<span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Von<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.perlentaucher.de/ptautor/matthias-kuentzel.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff6318;">Matthias Küntzel</span></a></span><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></h5>
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<b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;">08.08.2012</span></b><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;">.
Uralt-Ängste,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ressentiments</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;">und<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Projektionen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;">im
deutschen Beschneidungsdiskurs.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Anmerkungen zu einer laufenden<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Diskussion</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #7c8787; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">63<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jahre lang</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">galt
die<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Beschneidung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">von<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Säuglingen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">und
Kindern als verfassungskonform.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Sie entspreche, so hieß es, dem<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Kindeswohl</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Im<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mai</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">2012
interpretierten<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Kölner</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Richter</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">das<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Grundgesetz</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">neu:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Die Beschneidung laufe dem<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Interesse</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">des<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Kindes</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">zuwider
und<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">sei</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">mithin
ein Verfassungsverstoß.<br />
Diese<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Neubewertung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">setzte
eine<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Welle</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">des<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Abscheus</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">,
der Empörung,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
des<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="color: #366388; font-size: 18.0pt;">Entsetzens</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #222222; font-size: 18.0pt;">über
Säuglings- und Kinderbeschneidungen frei. ...................................</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #666666; font-size: 18.0pt;">Debatte zum Beschneidungsurteil</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 18.0pt;">Nur Minderheit in Israel lehnt Beschneidung ab</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">Die Beschneidung von Jungen ist auch in Israel nicht
unumstritten.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Es gibt Eltern, die sich dagegen entscheiden, weil sie die Prozedur für
überflüssig halten.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Für die Mehrheit aber ist sie Teil der jüdischen Identität.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;">Von Ulrike Schleicher</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.aerztezeitung.de/politik_gesellschaft/gp_specials/beschneidung/default.aspx?sid=820158&cm_mmc=Newsletter-_-Newsletter-C-_-20120823-_-Beschneidung" target="_blank"><span style="color: #1e66ae;">http://www.aerztezeitung.de/politik_gesellschaft/gp_specials/beschneidung/default.aspx?sid=820158&cm_mmc=Newsletter-_-Newsletter-C-_-20120823-_-Beschneidung</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lieber</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Michael Roloff</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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</span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gerd</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">hat uns davon informiert, daß er
Dich aus der bbpp-Liste getrichen hat. Ich finde das richtig, bedaure es aber
auch, denn es war schon interessant, Kommentare vom anderen Ende des großen
Teiches zu lesen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Soweit ich sehe, hast Du die
"Hausregel" verletzt, die da besagt:</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Was hier gesagt wird, bleibt in
diesen vier Wänden!". Kurz: IM </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Haus</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">ist alles erlaubt, aber wenn wer was vor die</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Haustür</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">bringt, muß er den, von dem es stammt, erst um</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Erlaubnis</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">fragen.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Das ist eine</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Regel</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">, die uns ganz geläufig ist, weil
sie in jeder</span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gruppentherapie</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">gleich am Anfang vereinbart wird. Sie ist die</span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Voraussetzung</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">dafür, daß man sich öffnen und dabei sicher fühlen kann.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Du vertrittst aber angeblich die</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Auffassung</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">, daß es schon rechtens ist, über
Beiträge Anderer zu</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">verfügen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und derjenige, der damit nicht einverstanden ist, Dich ja anschreiben
kann und Du dann das, was Du über ihn verbreitet hast, wieder
zurücknehmen kannst.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Ich würde das gerne verstehen.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Kannst Du mir erklären, wie Du darauf kommst,
daß das so, wie Du das handhabst, angemessener ist?</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Mit vielen guten Wünschen</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">und frdl. Gruß</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Christine Jungnickel,Dr. , Dipl.-Pych.,
PPT, </span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Jena</span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">m 19.08.2012 00:08,
schrieb</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Michael Roloff</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">:</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Dear Christine,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Thanks for your query.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> When I put up an entry on circucision at my</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> blog</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> I alerted the membership that if anyone did
not want any</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> of their matters on the subject to be
represented there</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> they ought to</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">let me know</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">. The only replies I had, but for
Pazzini, were</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> from those who did not have anything at the
yahoo groups blog and</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> therefore not on my blog, but who all got
incredibly excited. Meanwhile,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> the blog only has two matters from the
yahoo list, letter by Drs.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Floeter and Pilgram, and I have written to
both to check whether they</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> have any objections, but have not heard
back, as it is the weekend and</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> we have these time differences and we had a
blackout yesterday with that</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> absolute rarity in</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Seattle</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">, a heatwave. Udderwise, all</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">the material</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">on</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> my blog that is not written by yours truly
is in the</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">public domain</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> official pronouncements, medical stuff,
etc. etc. I got a little carried</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> away when I came on the Ethik Rat
opportunity and noticed the position</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> of the Juedische Allgemeine, but I also
alerted the list at once.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Gerd for all this is about to get a piece
of my mind</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> that may not set him straight or straighten
up but sit up! But then I</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> doubt you saw his last letter to me.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Below find my Op-Ed, which reduces the
entire matter to a kind of stub -</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> a stub onto which you can propfen Pazzini's
GESEZTZ INSCRIPTION, the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> entire controversy relating to
Anti-Semitism, and how guilt distorts</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> German ways of handling matters of that kind.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *_ON CIRCUMCISION_____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *______*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *On June 26 of this year a Judge in
Cologne, Germany**____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *condemned a German physician for
violating the German constitution’s</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> guarantee of the inviolability of a person
for having circumcised -</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> it was a four year old Muslim boy.
But the judge did not pronounce a</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> guilty verdict nor administer punishment since
the physician was</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> practicing within a tradition and was
unaware of the conflict of those</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> constitutional guarantees with those
guaranteeing freedom of religion,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> in this instance the Abrahamic religious
practices of Brit</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> **Milah*</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>____</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> in Judaic *and the Islamic practice of
Khitan*____</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">(circumcision)</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_%28circumcision%29" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_%28circumcision%29</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>*____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *Thus ensued a conflict between the Jewish
and Islamic religious in</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Germany and the German legal authorities
that continues to this</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> day. The chief Israeli Rabbi went to
Germany and asserted that the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> prohibition of the Brit Mila constituted a
prohibition of the fundament</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> of Jewish identity and German Jews
therefore would have to leave the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> country. The Bundestag, the German
parliament, responded quickly to</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> calls from the two dominant parties,
Christian and Social Democrats, to</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> pass a resolution, endorsed by Chancellor
Angele Merkel, in favor of an</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> exception for the practice</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> **</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/103/1710331.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/103/1710331.pdf</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/103/1710331.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/103/1710331.pdf</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *Yet the controversy will not be
resolved **until that law has been</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> studied by the German Ethic Council, if
then.**____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *Circumcision, the lopping off of a penis’s
foreskin incises appr. 5,000</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> nerves; for the concentration of nerves at
that region it is one of the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> most excruciatingly painful procedures if
administered without</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> anesthetic, as it is in the Jewish practice
of the Prit Milah, which is</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> celebrated on the 8^th day
extra-uterine. The child is in no position</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> to be consulted, no empathy of its pain can
even be communicated for</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> whatever trauma the procedure will induce.
The child screams holy murder</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> but is then coddled and attempts are made
to reassure it. Islamic</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> practice, which occurs anywhere between the
4^th and 12^th birthday is</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> voluntary and circumcision, there called
Khitan, is administered with</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> anesthesia. Only puncturing of the eardrum,
which has a higher</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> concentration of nerves, is more painful.
However, as I can testify,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> done under emergency conditions at age 8
and with advance warning from a</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> kindly house physician, the shockingly
extreme pain, is exceedingly</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> brief though you remember it forever as the
high point, the lightning</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> strike of the pain continuum when consulted
during later hospital</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> procedures.____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> * Although those who have lost their
foreskin eventually loose</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> recollection of the procedure, it makes the
infant fearful; other</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> subsequent painful procedures, say
inoculations, re-evoke the original</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> trauma for many years. In a mature male,
the trauma can be recovered</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> under psychoanalysis; the lack of the
foreskin, during adolescence,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> tends to suppress premature ejaculation; as
a mature lover the lack will</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> deprive the man of whatever pleasure 5,000
nerve cells can induce.____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *As a religious as distinct from a medical
practice Brit Milah and</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Khitan, like other religious practices, has
a rather dark past; it is</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> the left-over of the original sacrifice of
the first born son, replaced</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> subsequently by his castration. It gives
evidence of the Patriarchy’s</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> fear of generational conflict. Some Jewish
reform congregations merely</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> practice a simulation of the Brit Milah, I
myself have come up with the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> ingenious compromise solution of the
“Mosquito Bite” – one drop of blood</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> to commemorate the dark history while
keeping the name- giving and</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> celebration and compact with God and the
formation of group identity</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> intact in this homogenizing world.____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *The controversy persists to this day in
various forum in Germany. Many</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> resolutions by German psychologists,
lawyers and medical personnel</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> calling for the prohibition of involuntary
circumcision have been</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> addressed to the Bundestag____*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">></span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.welt.de/newsticker/news3/article108343689/Gegner-der-Beschneidung-von-Jungen-reichen-Petition-ein.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.welt.de/newsticker/news3/article108343689/Gegner-der-Beschneidung-von-Jungen-reichen-Petition-ein.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.welt.de/newsticker/news3/article108343689/Gegner-der-Beschneidung-von-Jungen-reichen-Petition-ein.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.welt.de/newsticker/news3/article108343689/Gegner-der-Beschneidung-von-Jungen-reichen-Petition-ein.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>____</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.beschneidung-von-jungen.de/home/gesellschaftliche-aspekte-der-beschneidung/beschneidung-und-politik/petition-gegen-beschneidung-minderjaehriger.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.beschneidung-von-jungen.de/home/gesellschaftliche-aspekte-der-beschneidung/beschneidung-und-politik/petition-gegen-beschneidung-minderjaehriger.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://www.beschneidung-von-jungen.de/home/gesellschaftliche-aspekte-der-beschneidung/beschneidung-und-politik/petition-gegen-beschneidung-minderjaehriger.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://www.beschneidung-von-jungen.de/home/gesellschaftliche-aspekte-der-beschneidung/beschneidung-und-politik/petition-gegen-beschneidung-minderjaehriger.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>**____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *__ __*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *__ __*</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> *The controversy, which has elicited
sometimes heated discussions, also</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> in psychoanalytic circles, has barely
has managed to make a dent on the</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> news media in the U.S. Brief mention in the
Washington Post; the German</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> editor of /Die Zeit /and Neo-Con co-founder
of /The National</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> Interest/ Josef Joffe in the Wall Street
Journal seemed very wrought</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> up**</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443343704577550854160191664.html?KEYWORDS=josef+joffe" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443343704577550854160191664.html?KEYWORDS=josef+joffe</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443343704577550854160191664.html?KEYWORDS=josef+joffe" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443343704577550854160191664.html?KEYWORDS=josef+joffe</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>******____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> * I myself have collected a great
deal of material and links galore,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> both in German and English, both pro and
con, from the various parties</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> at my</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> **</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> <</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"><a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html" target="_blank"><span style="background: white; color: #234786; font-family: "Courier New";">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></a></span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">>**____*</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">> **</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">> MICHAEL ROLOFF<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Lieber Michael,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">vielen</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Dank</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">für die Erläuterungen. Ich kann mir nun ein</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Bild</span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">machen, wie es dazu kommen
konnte, daß Ihr (</span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Gerd</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und Du) das Problem nicht
sachlich lösen konntet.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Ich denke, der ganze Ärger wäre überflüssig
geworden, wenn Du die beiden</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Kollegen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">vorher pm angeschrieben und gefragt hättest, ob sie ihre Beiträge für
die Veröffentlichung auf Deinem Blog zur Verfügung stellen würden. Gegen
Dein Anliegen - und Dein Engagement in der Sache - ist ja nichts einzuwenden
und warum sollten sie es nicht auch unterastützen wollen?</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">Jedenfalls wäre das dann unabhängig von der
bbpp-Liste und den Schweigepflicht-Regeln passiert und so, wie es Gerd Böttcher
will.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Die Moderatoren in den geschlossenen Listen
fürchten solche Regelverletzungen von Mitgliedern, wie sie hier passiert sind,
denn sie müssen ja danach dafür sorgen, daß das mißbrauchte </span></span></b><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Vertrauen</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">wieder hergestellt wird. Ich kenne Moderatoren, die ihre Listen
kurzerhand eingestampft haben, weil sie - wenn sie sich denn auf
Auseinandersetzungen mit den "Sündern" eingelassen haben- ganz
persönlich derart hart angegangen wurden und es fast immer unsachlich und tief
kränkend für sie ausging.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Gerd ist ein erfahrener Listen-Chef, der das in
anderen Listen auch miterlebt hat und keinen im Unklaren gelassen hat, daß er
den Sünder ausschließen wird, der die Schweigepflicht für intern geäußerte
Meinungen in seiner Liste bricht, . Deshalb steht auch dieser Vers ("DAS
IST EINE GESCHLOSSENE LISTE...") hinter j e d e r Mail!</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Im vorliegenden Fall - wo der eingetretene
Schaden noch im Rahmen blieb- wäre es wünschenswert gewesen, daß die
Aufregung mit einer Entschuldigung Deinerseits beigelegt worden wäre.
Jetzt sieht es eher so aus, daß da einer (Du) meintest, die b e s s e r
e Regel einführen zu können und damit die Machtfrage (!) auf den Tisch
kam.</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Ich glaube, wir in</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Deutschland</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">sind ziemlich genervt, wenn jemand daher kommt und sich etwas
zuschreibt, was ihm nicht zukommt. Irgendwie berührt das in uns
eine ´Tellermine´- und wir regen uns noch 70 Jahre nach</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Hitler</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">übermäßig auf über Anmaßung und Machtmißbrauch,- auch wenn das
Ausmaß der Aufregunges in keinem Verhältnis zur Sache steht.</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
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<span style="background: white;">So gibt es für alles Gründe, nicht wahr?</span><br />
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<span style="background: white;">Ich wünsche Deinem Blog eine anregende Wirkung
in der Frage nach der</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Legitimation</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">und Zumutbarkeit solcher in Einzelfällen traumatisie- render Eingriffe
und deren Abgrenzung zum Mißbrauch,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">- einer Frage, die sich ohnehin in jeder
Generation neu stellt</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">und dem</span></span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><span class="yshortcuts"><b><span style="background: white; color: #366388; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Zeitgeist</span></b></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Courier New";"> </span></b></span><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">entsprechend entschieden werden will/soll/muß...</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
<span style="background: white;">wo dann natürlich auch "die Mächte"
aneinander geraden</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">und das Kräftemessen in verbalen Schlachten
enden kann.</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">Viele Grüße aus dem</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">mit Sahara-Luft gesegneten,</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">mit 38 Grad C</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">hochsommerlich aufgeheizten Jena</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">(bislang noch ohne Stromausfall)</span><br />
<span style="background: white;">und nochmals besten Dank!Christine Jungnickel<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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important contributors Pilgram and Floeter would have assented, Floeter still
does, I only removed Pilgram when he agreed with Boetcher, assuming that this
implied that I should. Several folks who had not contributed anything
personally but a link but whose names appeared became highly excited.
However,as matters have evolved, as you will see below, I have no regrets for
the discories I then made.</span></b><b><span style="background: white; color: #454545; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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</span></b><b><span style="background-color: lime; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">You will see it’s not even half a dozen folks who
contributed - W.B.Floeter, Josef Pazzini,
Fink Pilgam and myself - and no one really changed their position. Mine
developed as I became better informed and more and more outraged the better
informed I became. I did not know Boetcher’s position on the matter until the
29<sup>th</sup> of August when he communicated to me that “it should be left up
to the parents” [see below.] Very well, it’s a little late to sacrifice my
first born–illegitimate son, he’s 25 and as the product of a liaison with one
of those marvelous strapping California girls, is 6 inches taller and 60 pounds
heavier and as a really wild hippie requires more than the removal of his
foreskin to get him on the road to civilization. However, that leaves my YOUNGEST that I sacrifice to appease the Gods, and I’ll throw in my
favorite goat, Chiquita, to make amends for being so belated. Maybe I’ll nail
him to a cross briefly and then cut off his head too, to stay attuned with my
friends in Borneo, before running a stake through him and frying him on a spit,
so as to cover all eventualities – after all, I have Gerd Boetcher, a German
Diplom psychologist’s permission to exercise my parental rights!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Boetcher’s other below claims are equally wrong, moreover he uses my analytic
list and has his sidekick Gershmann write that any recipient of an e-mail has
the right to use the names that appear on it. Very well then.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Since Gerd Boettcher of this </span></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: lime;">group </span></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"> cracked my e-mail account? -
states the following matter and wrote </span></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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"Liebe geehrte Frau Dr. Woopen,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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Ich wollte Sie, als Leiterin des Ethikrates,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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<a href="http://www.ethikrat.org/">http://www.ethikrat.org/</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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<a href="http://geschichte-ethik.uk-koeln.de/forschungsstelle-ethik/mitarbeiter">http://geschichte-ethik.uk-koeln.de/forschungsstelle-ethik/mitarbeiter</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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aufmerksam machen darauf dass auch<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
bei der hauptsächlich Deutschen von Dr. Gerd Boettcher<br />
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<a href="http://onlinestreet.de/152663-berliner-blaetter-fuer-psychoanalyse-und-psychotherapie-gerd-boettcher">http://onlinestreet.de/152663-berliner-blaetter-fuer-psychoanalyse-und-psychotherapie-gerd-boettcher</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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geleiteten<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de">psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de</a><br />
es eine kontuierlich blühende Diskussion über das Thema Beschneidung gibt, in
dem sich das gros der Mitglieder, aber auch nicht alle, gegen den Brauch des
Bris wenden. Dies können Sie an der unten beigefügten Auswahl der glaube ich
meisten wichtigsten Stellungnahmen ersehen, numeriert so dass die bisher letzte
Mitteilung am Ende steht.<br />
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Ungeachtet der Vereinbarung, daß es sich um eine geschlossene Liste handelt,
die eine Weiterverbreitung ihrer Inhalte ohne direkte Erlaubnis des
Listenmoderators und der jeweiligen Autoren verbietet, was auf jeder einzelnen
Mail vermerkt wird,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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urteilt Herr Roloff leichtfertig und vorschnell, denn die Diskussion über das
Thema "Beschneidung" hat erst begonnen, so dass ein verfälschender
Eindruck entsteht, wenn Herr Roloff behauptet, dass sich "das gros der
Mitglieder, aber auch nicht alle, gegen den Brauch des Bris wenden".<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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My intention had been to alert the German Ethikrat to the on-going discussion.
As a matter of fact, when Boettcher states that it is not the case that a
majority of the members of his list oppose the Bris, a.k.a. Khitan, he is
correct in the sense that only a single member, Josef Pazzini endorses it!
Boettcher raising the issue of the content of the discussion leaves me no
choice in making it available in due course over the next several days. </span></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: #EEEEEE;">"<i>Da Herr
Roloff inzwischen von der Teilnahme an der Liste wegen Verletzung der
Listenregeln ausgeschlossen wurde, kann er über den weiteren Verlauf der Diskussion
auch gar nicht berichten.</i></span></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: #EEEEEE;">Mit
freundlichem Gruß</span></i></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: #EEEEEE;">Gerd
Böttcher<br />
Herausgeber der "Berliner Blätter für Psychoanalyse und
Psychotherapie"</span></i></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: #EEEEEE;"><a href="mailto:redaktion@bbpp.org">redaktion@bbpp.org</a></span></i></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver; mso-shading: #EEEEEE;"><a href="http://www.bbpp.de/">http://www.bbpp.de/</a></span></i></b><b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: silver; font-family: "Courier New"; mso-highlight: silver;"><a href="http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/psychotherapeuten/"><i>http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/psychotherapeuten/</i></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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bleiben die erwachsenen Juden, die ihre Eltern anklagen, <br />
sie vor der Beschneidung nicht bewahrt zu haben? <br />
Diese hätten allein das Recht dazu und das Recht für sich.<br />
Stattdessen singen sie ein Lob auf ihren uralten Brauch, der ihren Bund
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<span style="color: #1f497d;">Sehr geehrte Kollegin Sommer,<br />Ihren unten zitierten Artikel werden wir in der<br />Liste "Psychotherapeuten" nicht veröffentlichen,<br />da er nicht den Regeln der Liste entspricht.<br />Vielleicht können Sie den Inhalt sachlicher gestalten.<br />Beste Grüße<br />Gerd Böttcher.<br />redaktion@bbpp.org<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;"> Dr.Maria Sommer [<a href="mailto:tux@go4more.de">mailto:tux@go4more.de</a>] <br /><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 29. August 2012 09:56<br /><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:bbpp@bbpp.de">p<span style="color: #1f497d;">sychotherapeuten</span>@<span style="color: #1f497d;">yahoogroups.de</span></a><br /><b>Betreff:</b> Es gibt im Internet ein Monster, das sich Psychophysiker oder Mikorollmops nennt</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">Es gibt im Internet ein Monster, das sich Psychophysiker oder Mikorollmops nennt,<span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span>und viele Seiten in hässlich farbigem Hintergrund vollmüllt,<span style="color: #1f497d;"><br /></span>indem es gegen die Beschneidung wettert.<span style="color: #1f497d;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">Wo bleiben die erwachsenen Juden, die ihre Eltern anklagen, <br />sie vor der Beschneidung nicht bewahrt zu haben? <br />Diese hätten allein das Recht dazu und das Recht für sich.<br />Stattdessen singen sie ein Lob auf ihren uralten Brauch, der ihren Bund besiegelt.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-35429019792865210232012-08-27T13:50:00.000-07:002012-10-17T17:25:07.526-07:00BESCHNEIDUNGS BRIEF AN DEN ETHIK RAT<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;"><span style="color: #330099;"><big><b><big> </big></b></big></span>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><u><b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">DIE FETISCHISIERUNG DER NEUTRALITÄT </span></span></b></u></span><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">Fwd: Lieber Professor Hoefling </span></span></b><br />
<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">re http://www.taz.de/!102878/,</span></span></b><br />
<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">Seit 1998 sind Sie - Wolfram Hoefling - Direktor des Instituts für Staatsrecht der Universität zu Köln und Inhaber des Lehrstuhls für Staats-, Verwaltungs- und Finanzrecht sowie Leiter der Forschungsstelle für das Recht im Gesundheitswesen. Seit 2001 sind sie stellvertretender Vorsitzender der Patientenschutzorganisation Deutsche Hospiz Stiftung. und geben in dem oben zitierten Interview zu dass Sie von Medizin keine Ahnung haben, was Sie aber nicht stört Meinungen dazu zu äußern = also wollen Sie, trotz der jetzt monatenlange Debatte nicht davon gehört haben, dass die Beschnittenen anders sind als die Unbeschnittenen in dem Erlebnis ihrer sexuellen Empfindlichkeit, nichts davon gehört in diesen Monaten der Diskussion das die Beschneidung des Mannes das Gegenstück zu weiblicher Beschneidung ist, und dass wenn man diesen Gesetzvorschlag ernst nimmt, ich meinen Sohn kastrieren und die Tochter beschneiden darf... solange das alles mit ärztlicher Kunst getan! Ein wahrer Hoefling der Regierung der Herr Professor! Der die "Neutralitaet" fetischisiert.,Die Tabuisierung jeglichen Vergleichs von männlicher mit weiblicher Genitalverstümmelung ist der große Skandal der Debatte. In beiden Fällen wird der empfindsamste und erogenste Teil des menschlichen Körpers amputiert oder schwer beschädigt. In beiden Fällen geht es in erster Linie um die Beschneidung menschlicher Sexualität. ,http://evidentist.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/beschneidung-ignoranz-und-sexismus/</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;"> ,es gibt auch andere Ansichten zu dem Thema von Juedischer Seite die selten in den Diskussionen genannnt werden, warum?,,</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html, ,</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/debatte/article108847257/Die-Vorhaut-des-Herzens.html</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">,,http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html,</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">AND DONT FORGET THE ARCHIVE!!! http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">Liebe
Professorin
Woopen , sehr geehrter Ethik Rat.<br />
der von Ihnen vorgeschlagene Kompromiss in der <br />
Beschneidungs Angelegenheit scheint sich nicht<br />
bewusst zu sein, dass auch trotz Anästhesie der Schnitt<br />
ein Trauma hinterlässt. Die Jüdische Gemeinde hat<br />
vor den Schmerz zu lindern, mit einem Tropfen was<br />
uns in the USA als Manischevitz bekannt ist,<br />
also zeigt sie jedenfalls ein Mindesmass an Empathie,<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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Ausgelassen aus ihren Überlegungen ist die Herkunft<br />
der Beschneidung in den Abrahamischen Religionen,<br />
von Opfer des erstgeborenem Sohns, zu dessen Kastration, bis
zur der Beschneidung<br />
der Vorhaut, wobei nur ein Fetzen Haut samt 5000 Nerven daran
glauben müssen. <br />
Da es doch eine langsame Entwicklung in der Verminderung
dieses brutalen Vorgehens
in der Geschichte gibt, kann man sich leicht eine weitere
Verminderung vorstellen. Da das Brit Milah ein Grund für
wahnsinnige anti-Semitische Voruteile gab [Freud fand, dass
die Beschneidung im Unterbewussten, oder halb-bewussten DER
Grund zum Anti-Semitismus - als Furcht, Castrationsangst -
überhaupt bei seinen Patienten war] sollte sich das orthodoxe
Rabbiniat auch diesen Tatbestand in Bezicht ziehen bei<br />
den Überlegungen zu einer Kompromiss Lösung. Ausserdem wird
man Jude durch</span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow; color: #330099;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;">Geburt von einer Jüdischen Mutter; Reform Rabbiniate
simulieren das Brit Milah!<br />
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E<span style="color: #330099;">in Gedankengang der mich besonders bei
ihren Überlegungen aufgefallen ist was </span></span></b><span style="color: #330099;">S<b>trafrechtler und Rechtsphilosoph Reinhard
Merkel, der es zwar „bizarr“ nannte, wenn
Religionsgemeinschaften eine Definitionsmacht über die
Zulässigkeit von Körperverletzungen erhielten, wollte sich
am Ende dem Argument beugen, dass es in Deutschland eine</b></span><i> <b>„weltweit singuläre
Pflicht gegenüber allen jüdischen Belangen“ gebe. Er sagte, im
Konflikt zwischen dem strafrechtlich unzulässige</b></i><b>n
körperlichen Eingriff und der Verpflichtung der deutschen Nation
gegenüber dem Judentum entstehe ein „rechtspolitischer
Notstand“. </b>
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Führt man diesem Gedanken weiter, kommt man dort an, dass
Deutschland nichts unternehmen sollte wenn Israel sich
entchied eine "Endlösung" der Palestinier/ Bedouinen Problems
durchzuführen, da<br />
Deutschland selbst solch eine Schuld trägt. Also, ad absurdum.
Eine schlechte Begründung, besonders von einem Strafrechtler,
aber eine Begründung welche zeigt
was ich besonders bei diesen Überlegungen<br />
vermisse: die wahrlich einzigartige
Schuld, den die Deutsche Gesellschaft in den 20ger bis 40ziger
Jahren des letzten Jahrhunderts auf sich genommen hat als sie
Schritt für Schritt zu der Endlösung, der Shoah zuging ohne
dass die Eliten, das Deutsche Rechtswesen, das Volk, seine
Soldaten sich dagegen auflehnten und diesen einzigartige
selbst<a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html">the-circumcision-debate-links-and.html</a>zerstörerischen Ausbruchs des Hasses und des Neids
verhinderten. Ich fand es absolute
korrekt, dass im <br />
Historiker Streit, es zu dem Ergebnis kam der dieses Vorkommen
nicht relativiert. Auf so eine Art hat der menschliche Hass
sich nie vorher noch nachher manifestiert, was nur Menschen
Menschen antun können.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></span></div>
<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-family: Courier New, Courier, monospace;"><b><span style="color: #330099;">Aber
Überlegungen zu einer Schuld und der Versuch einer
Wiedergutmachung ist kaum Grund oder Pflicht eine andere Art
Schuld zu erlauben oder sich dafür von dem Orthodoxen Rabbiniat
erpressen zu lassen. Schuld verdummt, sie wird / wurde immer von
Eltern missbraucht. Es sollte vielleicht überlegt werden
inwiefern Deutsche Schuld bei diesen Überlegungen verdummt.<br />
<br />
Dieser </span><span style="color: #330099;"><br />
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enthaelt eine reiche Material Sammlung zu dem Thema Beschneidung
und wird taeglich erfrisch.</span></b>
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P.S. Gerd Boettcher of therapeuten yahoo groups made a
communication the other day via my analytic list, to which
had had no access to except by theft or illegal misuse. I
will reply to it separately and in a comment to the above
blog. m.r.<br />
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-39601655258980871142012-08-05T20:18:00.000-07:002014-05-31T11:42:24.546-07:00THE CIRCUMCISION DEBATE - LINKS AND COMMENTS<div style="text-align: center;">
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<b>"<i><span style="color: red;">Derision is the Mohel of Reason's knife."</span></i></b><br />
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">The purpose
of this Weblog is to supply information to help the discussion of the German
Circumcision controversy.</span></b></div>
<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">I initially
threw up the first version of the blog shortly before the German Ethic Council
was to meet to discuss what to do, more on that further down.</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">1) http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html </span><br />
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<b style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: 'courier new', monospace; font-size: large; text-align: start;"><a href="http://www.circumcisioncomplex.com/fundamentals/" style="background-color: yellow; color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">http://www.<wbr></wbr>circumcisioncomplex.com/<wbr></wbr>fundamentals/</a></b><br />
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<b style="background-color: lime;"> The
theory of circumcision however submits that circumcision was caused by a
single dynamic- lack of fresh water- and subsequently the unhygienic
conditions arising from irregular ablution. Irregular ablution causes,
bad odour, thrush, cystitis, and other poor sanitation infections, which
diminish libidos and stifle sexual concert with the main malefactors
being unwashed and accumulated smegma, or poorly managed menstruation.
Relatedly, non-circumcising groups are commonly settled around large
fresh water bodies, as those which practice circumcision are settled far
from fresh water bodies. Indeed, the prescription of mid-teen-age for
circumcision is preemptively designed, to prepare teens for healthy
relationships devoid of stigmatising claims of uncleanliness or sexual
deficiency.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">Read more at: <a href="http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thenairobian/article/2000122911/is-circumcision-a-rite-because-of-lack-of-water">http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thenairobian/article/2000122911/is-circumcision-a-rite-because-of-lack-of-water</a> <a href="http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thenairobian/article/2000122911/is-circumcision-a-rite-because-of-lack-of-water">http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thenairobian/article/2000122911/is-circumcision-a-rite-because-of-lack-of-water</a></b></div>
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<span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><span style="background-color: #33ff33; font-family: arial; font-size: x-small; text-align: start;"><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-family: freesans, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 27.640625px;">The World Health Organization (WHO) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) agree with MC for personal, cultural, financial, and professional reasons. No medical organization finds any proven medical benefit for circumcision, and European organizations are against circumcision. Circumcision is painful and a shock to the system.</span>-</span>- </span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: #ff6666;">Doctors oppose infant circumcision</span></span></h1>
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<span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="background-color: #ff6666;">The circumcision of infants entails a risk of serious physical injury, or even death, and should be banned, according to 38 leading doctors.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><strong style="background-color: #ff99ff; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Circumcision conflicts with children’s rights and doctors’ oath and can have serious long-term consequences, state an international group of 38 physicians from 16 European countries in Pediatrics today. They comment on the American Academy of Pediatrics’ new policy on infant male circumcision.</strong></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><span style="background-color: #ff99ff;">There are no compelling health arguments in favor of circumcision, while it can have serious long-term urological, psychological and sexual consequences. And performing medically unwarranted circumcision of underage boys conflicts with good medical practice. Male infant circumcision conflicts with children’s rights and the doctors’ oath not to do harm. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><span style="background-color: #99ffff;"><span style="color: #2c2c2c; font-size: 13.333333015441895px;">. </span><a class="normal" href="http://knmg.artsennet.nl/web/file?uuid=62e174e8-613e-4d79-910f-747708dbf27a&owner=a8a9ce0e-f42b-47a5-960e-be08025b7b04&contentid=129611" style="color: #153e89; cursor: pointer; font-size: 13.333333015441895px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" title="Pediatrics-131-4-april-2013-Frisch-et-al-v2.pdf">Cultural Bias in the AAP’s 2012 Technical Report and Policy Statement on Male Circumcision. <em style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Pediatrics</em> 2013 131 (4)</a><span style="color: #2c2c2c; font-size: 13.333333015441895px;"> (PDF)</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;"><span style="background-color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New",Courier,monospace;"><b>Making it a taboo
to compare male with female sexual mutilation is the biggest
scandal of the controversy. In both instances the most
sensitive and most erogenous zone of the human bod is
amputated and severely damaged. In both instances, what
counts primarily is the cutting of human sexuality. The
imposition of control by</b></span></span><big><b><big> <span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New",Courier,monospace;">the patriarchy.</span></span></big></b></big></span></span><br />
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Tabuisierung jeglichen Vergleichs von männlicher mit
weiblicher Genitalverstümmelung ist der große Skandal
der Debatte. In beiden Fällen wird der empfindsamste und
erogenste Teil des menschlichen Körpers amputiert oder
schwer beschädigt. In beiden Fällen geht es in erster
Linie um die Beschneidung menschlicher Sexualität. </big></b><br />
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Unausgegoren, katastrophal - die Kritik der Pädiater am
Gesetzentwurf zur Beschneidung ist eindeutig. Sie sehen die
UN-Kinderrechtskonvention verletzt - und das Gesetz quasi
schon zur Verhandlung in Karlsruhe. Aber die Kinderärzte haben
einen Kompromissvorschlag.Von Raimund Schmid<br /><br /><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.aerztezeitung.de/politik_gesellschaft/gp_specials/beschneidung/article/824592/beschneidung-skepsis-paediater.html">http://www.aerztezeitung.de/politik_gesellschaft/gp_specials/beschneidung/article/824592/beschneidung-skepsis-paediater.html</a></span>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Here is my
opening statement which I</span></b><b><span style="background: #33FF33; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> have reduced
it to a kind of stub - a stub onto which one could add back on the entire
controversy relating to Anti-Semitism, and how guilt distorts German ways of
handling matters of that kind, and various defenses made of the practice
for reasons of "inscription of the law onto the body, “the law”, and which
is manifested in its multifariousness below. Towards the end there will be a section devoted to discussions that derive from the German yahootherapeuten group. Section "Yahoo". </span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18pt;"><b style="background-color: magenta;">1= OVERVIEW</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18pt;"><b style="background-color: magenta;">2= LETTER TO THE ETHIKRAT</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18pt;"><b style="background-color: magenta;"> 3= MATERIAL COLLECTION</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18pt;"><b style="background-color: magenta;">4= Original letter to the Ethik Rat</b></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18pt;"><b style="background-color: magenta;">5=yahoo-therapeutengroup</b></span><br />
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<b><u><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">ON CIRCUMCISION</span></u></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">On June 26 of this year a Judge in Cologne,
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">condemned a German physician
for violating the German constitution’s guarantee of the
inviolability of a person for having circumcised - it was a four
year old Muslim boy. But the judge did not pronounce a guilty verdict nor
administer punishment since the physician was practicing within a tradition and
was unaware of the conflict of those constitutional guarantees with those
guaranteeing freedom of religion, in this instance the Abrahamic religious
practices of Brit </span></b><b><span style="color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Milah<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah" target="_blank"><span style="color: #366388;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Brit_milah</span></a></span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">in Judaic <span style="background: yellow;">and the Islamic
practice of Khitan</span></span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Thus ensued a conflict between the Jewish and
Islamic religious in Germany and the German legal authorities that continues to
this day. The chief Israeli Rabbi went to Germany and asserted that
the prohibition of the Brit Mila constituted a prohibition of the fundament of
Jewish identity and German Jews therefore would have to leave the country. The
Bundestag, the German parliament, responded quickly to calls from the two
dominant parties, Christian and Social Democrats, to pass a resolution,
endorsed by Chancellor Angele Merkel, in favor of an exception for the practice<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Yet the controversy will not be
resolved </span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">until that law has been
studied by the German Ethic Council, if then.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Circumcision, the lopping off of a penis’s
foreskin incises appr. 5,000 nerves; for the concentration of nerves at that
region it is one of the most excruciatingly painful procedures if administered
without anesthetic, as it is in the Jewish practice of the Prit Milah, which is
celebrated on the 8<sup>th</sup> day extra-uterine. The child is in no
position to be consulted, no empathy of its pain can even be communicated for
whatever trauma the procedure will induce. The child screams holy murder but is
then coddled and attempts are made to reassure it. Islamic practice, which
occurs anywhere between the 4<sup>th</sup> and 12<sup>th</sup> birthday
is voluntary and circumcision, there called Khitan, is administered with
anesthesia. Only puncturing of the eardrum, which has a higher concentration of
nerves, is more painful. However, as I can testify, done under emergency
conditions at age 8 and with advance warning from a kindly house physician, the
shockingly extreme pain, is exceedingly brief though you remember it forever as
the high point, the lightning strike of the pain continuum when consulted
during later hospital procedures.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> Although
those who have lost their foreskin eventually loose recollection of the
procedure, it makes the infant fearful; other subsequent painful procedures,
say inoculations, re-evoke the original trauma for many years. In a mature
male, the trauma can be recovered under psychoanalysis; the lack of the
foreskin, during adolescence, tends to suppress premature ejaculation; as a
mature lover the lack will deprive the man of whatever pleasure 5,000 nerve
cells can induce.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">As a religious as
distinct from a medical practice Brit Milah and Khitan, like other religious
practices, has a rather dark past; it is the left-over of the original
sacrifice of the first born son, replaced subsequently by his castration. It
gives evidence of the Patriarchy’s fear of generational conflict. Some Jewish
reform congregations merely practice a simulation of the Brit Milah, I myself
have come up with the ingenious compromise solution of the “Mosquito Bite” –
one drop of blood to commemorate the dark history while keeping the name-
giving and celebration and compact with God and the formation of group identity
intact in this homogenizing world.</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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various forum in Germany. Many resolutions by German psychologists, lawyers and
medical personnel calling for the prohibition of involuntary circumcision have
been addressed to the Bundestag</span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #000066; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><span style="color: #1155cc;"><big><b><big><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New",Courier,monospace;"><span style="font-size: small;">Warum wird jemand wie Professor Michael Wolffsohn
nicht ueber andere Juedischen Ansichten befragt?,<br /><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html">http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2012/10/michael-wolffsohns-foreskin-of-heart.html</a></span>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tagesspiegel.de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-family: "Courier New",Courier,monospace;"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.tagesspiegel</span></span></span>.<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="font-size: small;">de/meinung/andere-meinung/gastkommentar-zur-beschneidungsdebatte-danke-deutschland/7160872.html</span></span></a></big></b></big> </span></span></b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b><span style="color: #330099; font-size: 18.0pt;">Liebe
Professorin , sehr geehrter Ethik Rat.<br />
der von Ihnen vorgeschlagene Kompromiss in der <br />
Beschneidungs Angelegenheit scheint sich nicht<br />
bewusst zu sein, dass auch trotz Anästhesie der Schnitt<br />
ein Trauma hinterlässt. Die Jüdische Gemeinde hat<br />
vor den Schmerz zu lindern, mit einem Tropfen was<br />
uns in the USA als Manischevitz bekannt ist,<br />
also zeigt sie jedenfalls ein Mindesmass
an Empathie,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/article/view/id/13831">http://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/article/view/id/13831</a><span style="color: #330099; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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Ausgelassen aus ihren Überlegungen ist die Herkunft<br />
der Beschneidung in den Abrahamischen Religionen,<br />
von Opfer des erstgeborenem Sohns, zu dessen Kastration, bis zur der Beschneidung<br />
der Vorhaut, wobei nur ein Fetzen Haut samt 5000 Nerven daran glauben müssen.
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Da es doch eine langsame Entwicklung in der Verminderung dieses brutalen Vorgehens
in der Geschichte gibt, kann man
sich leicht eine weitere Verminderung vorstellen. Da das Brit Milah ein
Grund für wahnsinnige
anti-Semitische Voruteile gab [Freud fand, dass die Beschneidung im
Unterbewussten,
oder halb-bewussten DER Grund zum Anti-Semitismus - als Furcht,
Castrationsangst - überhaupt bei seinen Patienten war] sollte sich das
orthodoxe Rabbiniat auch diesen Tatbestand in Bezicht ziehen bei<br />
den Überlegungen zu einer Kompromiss Lösung. Ausserdem wird man Jude durch</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #330099; font-size: 18pt;">Geburt von einer Jüdischen Mutter; Reform Rabbiniate simulieren das Brit Milah!<br />
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E<span style="color: #330099;">in Gedankengang der mich besonders bei ihren Überlegungen aufgefallen ist was
</span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #330099;">S<b>trafrechtler und Rechtsphilosoph
Reinhard Merkel, der es zwar „bizarr“ nannte, wenn Religionsgemeinschaften eine
Definitionsmacht über die Zulässigkeit von Körperverletzungen erhielten, wollte
sich am Ende dem Argument beugen, dass es in Deutschland eine</b></span><i> „weltweit singuläre Pflicht gegenüber allen
jüdischen Belangen“ gebe. Er sagte, im Konflikt zwischen dem strafrechtlich
unzulässige</i>n körperlichen Eingriff und der Verpflichtung der deutschen
Nation gegenüber dem Judentum entstehe ein „rechtspolitischer Notstand“.</span><span style="font-size: 18.0pt;"> </span><br />
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Führt man diesem Gedanken weiter, kommt man dort an, dass Deutschland
nichts unternehmen sollte wenn Israel sich entchied eine "Endlösung" der
Palestinier/ Bedouinen Problems durchzuführen, da<br />
Deutschland selbst solch eine Schuld trägt. Also, ad absurdum. Eine
schlechte Begründung, besonders von einem Strafrechtler, aber eine
Begründung welche zeigt was ich besonders bei diesen Überlegungen<br />
vermisse: die wahrlich einzigartige Schuld, den die Deutsche
Gesellschaft in den 20ger bis 40ziger Jahren des letzten Jahrhunderts auf sich
genommen hat als sie Schritt für Schritt zu der Endlösung, der Shoah zuging
ohne dass die Eliten, das Deutsche Rechtswesen, das Volk, seine Soldaten sich
dagegen auflehnten und diesen einzigartige selbstzerstörerischen Ausbruchs des Hasses
und des Neids verhinderten. Ich
fand es absolute korrekt, dass im <br />
Historiker Streit, es zu dem Ergebnis kam der dieses Vorkommen nicht
relativiert. Auf so eine Art hat der menschliche Hass sich nie vorher noch
nachher manifestiert, was nur Menschen Menschen antun können.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<b><span style="color: #330099; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Aber Überlegungen zu einer
Schuld und der Versuch einer Wiedergutmachung ist kaum Grund oder Pflicht eine andere Art
Schuld zu erlauben oder sich dafür von dem Orthodoxen Rabbiniat erpressen zu
lassen. Schuld verdummt, sie wird / wurde immer von Eltern missbraucht. Es
sollte vielleicht überlegt werden inwiefern Deutsche Schuld bei diesen Überlegungen verdummt.<br />
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P.S. Gerd Boettcher of therapeuten yahoo groups made a communication the
other day via my analytic list, to which had had no access to except by
theft or illegal misuse. I will reply to it separately and in a comment
to the above blog. m.r.</big></b></big></span></div>
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heated discussions, also in psychoanalytic circles, has barely has
managed to make a dent on the news media in the U.S. Brief mention in the
Washington Post; the German editor of <i>Die Zeit </i>and Neo-Con
co-founder of <i>The National Interest</i> Josef Joffe in the Wall
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Pressemitteilung<br />
<a href="http://idw-online.de/de/institution223" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999;">Heinrich-Heine-Universität Düsseldorf</span></a>, Dr.
Victoria Meinschäfer, 18.07.2012 11:37</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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bei Jungen</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Die
Beschneidung der Vorhaut (Zirkumzision) ist der älteste und am häufigsten
durchgeführte operative Eingriff überhaupt. Prof. Dr. Matthias Franz,
stellvertretender Direktor des Klinischen Instituts für Psychosomatische
Medizin und Psychotherapie, warnt deutlich vor den Gefahren der meist religiös
motivierten Operation: „Die Entfernung der Vorhaut im Säuglings- oder
Kindesalter stellt ein Trauma dar und kann zu andauernden körperlichen,
sexuellen oder psychischen Komplikationen und Leidenszuständen führen. Diese
Problematik wird aus Respekt vor religiösen oder kulturellen Tabus und aus
Angst vor möglichen Konflikten bislang aber vorwiegend in Fachkreisen diskutiert.“</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Die
Forschung zeigt, dass die Erfahrung elterlicher Gewalt während der Kindheit
Brüche in der emotionalen Wahrnehmung und Empathiefähigkeit des später
erwachsenen Kindes bewirkt. In der Kindheit erfahrene Traumata werden
verinnerlicht und oft später auch selber wiederholt. Kollektiv rituell
vermittelte traumatische kindliche Erfahrungen führen daher zu Empathiebrüchen.
Die Gruppe der Beschnittenen reagiert mit Abwehr, d.h. sie verleugnet die
erlittenen Schmerzen. Dadurch wird die Einfühlung in das Erleben der nächsten
Opfer desselben Rituals beeinträchtigt: Es kann und darf nicht schlecht gewesen
sein, was die Eltern damals mit mir gemacht haben. Deshalb tue ich es auch.
Eine derartige Erfahrung führt bei den betroffenen Jungen meist zu einer Fortsetzung
der rituellen Praxis. Die erwachsenen Eltern leugnen aus eigenen
Abwehrbedürfnissen die erlittene Gewalt, deshalb kann das emotionale Erleben
des zu beschneidenden Kindes von den handelnden Erwachsenen nicht empathisch
erfasst werden. So entsteht eine Täter-Opfer-Kette, die sich über viele
Generationen hinweg etablieren kann. Franz: „Eine deutsche Variante, noch gar
nicht so lange her: Eine ordentliche Tracht Prügel hat noch niemandem
geschadet.“<br />
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Unterschieden werden muss zwischen den Auswirkungen der Beschneidung im
Säuglingsalter, wie es das Judentum fordert, und der im Kindesalter, die im
Islam üblich ist.<br />
Jüdische Jungen, die laut Bibel am achten Tag zu beschneiden sind, erleiden bei
der Zirkumzision Schmerzen, die noch nach einem Jahr im Körpergedächtnis
nachweisbar sind als überschießende Schmerzreaktionen auf Impfungen.
Muslimische Jungen werden dagegen meist im Alter von fünf bis acht Jahren
beschnitten. Franz: „Dass die Beschneidung des Jungen auf dem Höhepunkt der
infantilen Sexualentwicklung besondere Entwicklungsrisiken mit sich bringen
kann, erscheint zumindest plausibel. Die Beschneidung kann von Jungen, die sich
in dieser Phase zunehmend auf ihre Genitalität zentriert erleben, wie eine
elterlich herbeigeführte, schwere Sanktion oder Kastrationsdrohung erlebt
werden. Der schmerzlich-traumatische Eingriff erfolgt faktisch, bewusst
wahrnehmbar und unter direktem Zugriff auf den libidinös und narzisstisch hoch
besetzten Genitalbereich. Der ängstigende Gewaltaspekt unterliegt dabei einer
bemerkenswerten Verleugnung durch die beteiligten Erwachsenen. Er wird
rationalisiert als festlich und forciert freudig gestalteter
Männlichkeitsritus. Der kleine Junge, der ja in keiner Weise an der Schwelle
zum Mannesalter steht, wird mit hypermaskulinen Attributen und großen
Geschenken zum Mann erklärt, eigentlich aber von Erwachsenen manipuliert.“</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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Aus psychoanalytischer Sicht stellt die Zirkumzision bei fünf- bis achtjährigen
Jungen eine kollektive sexualtraumatische Erfahrung dar. Diese kann in
besonders patriarchalisch geprägten Kulturen eine der Ursachen für eine starke
Kontrolle der Sexualität und der Frau sein. So kann das Trauma zur
Stabilisierung von Machtstrukturen führen. Franz: „Aus psychoanalytischer Sicht
resultiert aus dieser definitiven Klarstellung hierarchischer Bezüge eine durch
starke Ängste (vor dem ultimativen Schnitt) fundierte patriarchalische
Loyalität.“<br />
Sowohl Juden als auch Muslime betrachten die Beschneidung als Zeichen ihrer
exklusiven Zugehörigkeit zu Gott. Während die Beschneidung im Alten Testament
ausdrücklich gefordert wird („Das aber ist mein Bund, den ihr halten sollt
zwischen mir und euch… eure Vorhaut sollt ihr beschneiden... Jedes Knäblein,
wenn’s acht Tage alt ist, sollt ihr beschneiden bei euren Nachkommen“) ist sie
im Islam nicht durch den Koran vorgegeben. Sie ist allerdings ein fester
Bestandteil der Ritualkultur. Der Prophet Mohamed wurde nach der Überlieferung
vorhautlos geboren, denen, die diesem Vorbild folgen, werden Belohnungen in
Aussicht gestellt.<br />
Das Ritual der Beschneidung selbst stammt noch aus vorgeschichtlicher Zeit.
Franz: „Es könnte in Jägerkulturen als männlicher Initiationsritus der sozialen
Aggressionskontrolle gedient haben. Die mit der Erlaubnis zur Jagd
erforderliche Überwindung der Tötungshemmung bedingt eine
Aggressionsfreisetzung, vor der die Bezugsgruppe geschützt werden muss. Die
Kontrolle aggressiver (und sexueller) Impulse innerhalb der Gruppe könnte durch
die rituelle Kastrationsandrohung erleichtert worden sein, wenn sich die
kindlich erlittenen Ängste und Schmerzen an das Verbot von
Grenzüberschreitungen gegenüber Gruppenmitgliedern knüpften. Durch ein
demonstratives, öffentlich wiederholtes Ritual mit Drohpotenzial wird ein
Phantasieraum erschlossen, in dem Kastration als Strafe vielleicht doch möglich
ist. Die rigide patriarchalisch geprägte Loyalität, die durch dieses Ritual
erzeugt wurde, diente einerseits also wohl der sozialen Triebkontrolle,
andererseits der Herausbildung einer Gruppenidentität.“<br />
Zudem kann die Beschneidung auch der von der Mutter trennenden Initiation zum
Mann einschneidenden Ausdruck verleihen: Auf Grund der Anatomie kann die
männliche Vorhaut in den archaischen Schichten des Unterbewusstseins als
„weiblich“ imaginiert werden, ihre Entfernung trennt den Jungen dann endgültig
von der Mutter.<br />
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Für die Zukunft rechnet Prof. Franz mit vermehrten Schadensersatzprozessen
beschnittener Männer, nicht nur gegen die Ärzte, sondern möglicherweise auch
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Dipl. Psych. Michael B.
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Medical Studies on
Circumcision</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Circumcision is Associated with Adult Difficulty in Identifying
and Expressing Feelings</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">This
preliminary study investigates what role early trauma might have in alexithymia
(difficulty in identifying and expressing feelings) acquisition for adults by
controlling for male circumcision. Three hundred self-selected men were
administered the Toronto Twenty-Item Alexithymia Scale checklist and a personal
history questionnaire. The circumcised men had age-adjusted alexithymia scores
19.9 percent higher than the intact men; were 1.57 times more likely to have
high alexithymia scores; were 2.30 times less likely to have low alexithymia
scores; had higher prevalence of two of the three</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">alexithymia factors
(difficulty identifying feelings and difficulty describing feelings); and were
4.53 times more likely to use an erectile dysfunction drug. Alexithymia in this
population of adult men is statistically significant for having experienced
circumcision trauma and for erectile dysfunction drug use. (See link to article
on our home page.)</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Bollinger, D. and Van Howe, R. , "Alexithymia and
Circumcision Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation," International
Journal of Men's Health (2011);184-195.</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Circumcision Associated with Sexual Difficulties in Men and
Women</span></b><span style="font-size: 16.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;">A new national survey
in Denmark, where about 5% of men are circumcised, examined associations of
circumcision with a range of sexual measures in both sexes. Circumcised men
were more likely to report frequent orgasm difficulties, and women with
circumcised spouses more often reported incomplete sexual needs fulfillment and
frequent sexual function difficulties overall, notably orgasm difficulties, and
painful sexual intercourse. </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 36.0pt;"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Frisch, M., Lindholm,
M., and Gr</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">nb</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">k, M., "Male Circumcision and Sexual Function in Men and
Women: A Survey-based, Cross-sectional Study in Denmark,"
International Journal of Epidemiology (2011);1</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">15.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision is
Associated with Premature Ejaculation</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;">Premature ejaculation
(PE) is common. However, it has been underreported and undertreated. The aim of
the study was to determine the prevalence of PE and to investigate possible
associated factors of PE. This cross-sectional study was conducted at a primary
care clinic over a 3-month period in 2008. Men aged 18-70 years attending the
clinic were recruited, and they completed self-administered questionnaires. A
total of 207 men were recruited with a response rate of 93.2%. Their mean age
was 46.0 years. The prevalence of PE was 40.6%. No significant association was
found between age and PE. Multivariate analysis showed that erectile
dysfunction, circumcision, and sexual intercourse =5 times in 4 weeks were
predictors of PE. These associations need further confirmation.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Tang, W. and Khoo, E. "Prevalence and Correlates of
Premature Ejaculation in a Primary Care Setting: A Preliminary Cross-Sectional
Study," Journal of Sexual Medicine (2011) Apr 14.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">NOTE: There have been numerous
articles in American media about claims that circumcision prevents HIV
transmission. No mainstream media article has reported on an opposing view, as
described in the findings of the following five medical articles.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Claim of Circumcision
Benefit is Overstated and Premature</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Further research is required to assess
the feasibility, desirability and cost-effectiveness of circumcision to reduce
the acquisition of HIV. This paper endorses the need for such research and
suggests that, in its absence, it is premature to promote circumcision as a
reliable strategy for combating HIV. Since articles in leading medical journals
as well as the popular press continue to do so, scientific researchers should
think carefully about how their conclusions may be translated both to policy
makers and to a more general audience. The importance of addressing
ethico-legal concerns that such trials may raise is highlighted. The
understandable haste to find a solution to the HIV pandemic means that the
promise offered by preliminary and specific research studies may be overstated.
This may mean that ethical concerns are marginalized. Such haste may also
obscure the need to be attentive to local cultural sensitivities, which vary
from one African region to another, in formulating policy concerning
circumcision.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Fox, M. and Thomson, M., "HIV/AIDS and Circumcision : Lost
in Translation," Journal of Medical Ethics 36 (2010):798-801.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision/HIV Claims
are Based on Insufficient Evidence</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">An article endorsed by thirty-two
professionals questions the results of three highly publicized African
circumcision studies. The studies claim that circumcision reduces HIV
transmission, and they are being used to promote circumcisions. Substantial
evidence in this article refutes the claim of the studies.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Examples in the article include the
following:</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">1.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision is
associated with increased transmission of HIV to women.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">2.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Conditions for the
studies were unlike conditions found in real-world settings.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">3.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Other studies show that
male circumcision is not associated with reduced HIV transmission.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">4.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The U.S. has a high rate
of HIV infection and a high rate of circumcision. Other countries have low
rates of circumcision and low rates of HIV infection.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">5.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Condoms are 95 times
more cost effective in preventing HIV transmission.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">6.</span></b><span style="color: #454545; font-size: 7.0pt;"> </span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision removes
healthy, functioning, unique tissue, raising ethical considerations.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Green, L. et al., "Male Circumcision and HIV Prevention:
Insufficient Evidence and Neglected External Validity," American Journal
of Preventive Medicine 39 (2010): 479-82.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">In National Survey
Circumcision Had No Protective Effect</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A survey of South African men showed
that circumcision had no protective effect in the prevention of HIV
transmission. This is a concern, and has implications for the possible adoption
of mass male circumcision strategy both as a public health policy and an HIV
prevention strategy.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Connolly, C. et al., South African Medical Journal 98(2008):
789-794.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision is Not Cost
Effective</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The findings suggest that behavior
change programs are more efficient and cost effective than circumcision.
Providing free condoms is estimated to be significantly less costly, more
effective in comparison to circumcising, and at least 95 times more cost
effective at stopping the spread of HIV in Sub-Saharan Africa. In addition,
condom usage provides protection for women as well as men. This is significant
in an area where almost 61% of adults living with AIDS are women.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">McAllister, R. et al., "The Cost to Circumcise
Africa," American Journal of Men's Health 7(2008): 307-316.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision/HIV Have
Incomplete Evaluation</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The push to institute mass
circumcision in Africa, following the three randomized clinical trials (RCTs)
conducted in Africa, is based on an incomplete evaluation of real-world
preventive effects over the long-term </span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> effects that may be quite
different outside the research setting and circumstances, with their access to
resources, sanitary standards and intensive counseling. Moreover, proposals for
mass circumcision lack a thorough and objective consideration of costs in
relation to hoped-for benefits. No field-test has been performed to evaluate
the effectiveness, complications, personnel requirements, costs and
practicality of proposed approaches in real-life conditions. These are the
classic distinctions between efficacy and effectiveness trials, and between
internal validity and external validity.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Campaigns to promote safe-sex
behaviors have been shown to accomplish a high rate of infection reduction,
without the surgical risks and complications of circumcision, and at a much
lower cost. For the health community to rush to recommend a program based on
incomplete evidence is both premature and ill-advised. It misleads the public
by promoting false hope from uncertain conclusions and might ultimately
aggravate the problem by altering people</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">s
behavioral patterns and exposing them and their partners to new or expanded
risks. Given these problems, circumcision of adults, and especially of
children, by coercion or by false hope, raises human rights concerns.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Green, L. et al., "Male Circumcision is Not the HIV </span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Vaccine</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> We
Have Been Waiting For!" Future Medicine 2 (2008): 193-199, DOI
10.2217/17469600.2.3.193.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Decreases
Sexual Pleasure</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A questionnaire was used to study the
sexuality of men circumcised as adults compared to uncircumcised men, and to
compare their sex lives before and after circumcision. The study included 373
sexually active men, of whom 255 were circumcised and 118 were not. Of the 255
circumcised men, 138 had been sexually active before circumcision, and all were
circumcised at >20 years of age. Masturbatory pleasure decreased after
circumcision in 48% of the respondents, while 8% reported increased pleasure.
Masturbatory difficulty increased after circumcision in 63% of the respondents
but was easier in 37%. About 6% answered that their sex lives improved, while
20% reported a worse sex life after circumcision. There was a decrease in
masturbatory pleasure and sexual enjoyment after circumcision, indicating that
adult circumcision adversely affects sexual function in many men, possibly
because of complications of the surgery and a loss of nerve endings.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Kim, D. and Pang, M., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on
Sexuality," BJU International 99 (2007): 619-22.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Removes the
Most Sensitive Parts of the Penis</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A sensitivity study of the adult penis
in circumcised and uncircumcised men shows that the uncircumcised penis is
significantly more sensitive. The most sensitive location on the circumcised
penis is the circumcision scar on the ventral surface. Five locations on the
uncircumcised penis that are routinely removed at circumcision are
significantly more sensitive than the most sensitive location on the
circumcised penis.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">In addition, the glans (head) of the
circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the
uncircumcised penis. The tip of the foreskin is the most sensitive region of
the uncircumcised penis, and it is significantly more sensitive than the most
sensitive area of the circumcised penis. Circumcision removes the most
sensitive parts of the penis.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">This study presents the first
extensive testing of fine touch pressure thresholds of the adult penis. The
monofiliment testing instruments are calibrated and have been used to test
female genital sensitivity.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Sorrells, M. et al., </span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Fine-Touch
Pressure Thresholds in the Adult Penis,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> BJU
International 99 (2007): 864-869.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Policy
Influenced by Psychosocial Factors</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The debate about the advisability of
circumcision in English-speaking countries typically has focused on potential
health factors. The position statements of committees from national medical
organisations are expected to be evidence-based; however, the contentiousness
of the ongoing debate suggests that other factors are involved. Various
potential factors related to psychology, sociology, religion, and culture may
also underlie policy decisions. These factors could affect the values and
attitudes of medical committee members, the process of evaluating the medical
literature, and the medical literature itself. Although medical professionals
highly value rationality, it can be difficult to conduct a rational and
objective evaluation of an emotional and controversial topic such as
circumcision. A negotiated compromise between polarized committee factions
could introduce additional psychosocial factors. These possibilities are
speculative, not conclusive. It is recommended that an open discussion of
psychosocial factors take place and that the potential biases of committee
members be recognized.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Goldman, R., </span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Circumcision
Policy: A Psychosocial Perspective,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Paediatrics
& Child Health 9 (2004): 630-633.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision is Not Good
Health Policy</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A cost-utility analysis, based on
published data from multiple observational studies, comparing boys circumcised
at birth and those not circumcised was undertaken using the Quality of
Well-being Scale, a Markov analysis, the standard reference case, and a
societal perspective. Neonatal circumcision increased incremental costs by
$828.42 per patient and resulted in an incremental 15.30 well-years lost per
1000 males. If neonatal circumcision was cost-free, pain-free, and had no
immediate complications, it was still more costly than not circumcising. Using
sensitivity analysis, it was impossible to arrange a scenario that made
neonatal circumcision cost-effective. Neonatal circumcision is not good health
policy, and support for it as a medical procedure cannot be justified
financially or medically.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Van Howe, R., </span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">A
Cost-Utility Analysis of Neonatal Circumcision,</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Medical
Decision Making 24 (2004):584-601.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Pain, Trauma, Sexual,
and Psychological Effects of Circumcision</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Infant male circumcision continues
despite growing questions about its medical justification. As usually performed
without analgesia or anaesthetic, circumcision is observably painful. It is
likely that genital cutting has physical, sexual and psychological
consequences, too. Some studies link involuntary male circumcision with a range
of negative emotions and even post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Some circumcised
men have described their current feelings in the language of violation,
torture, mutilation and sexual assault. In view of the acute as well as
long-term risks from circumcision and the legal liabilities that might arise,
it is timely for health professionals and scientists to re-examine the evidence
on this issue and participate in the debate about the advisability of this
surgical procedure on unconsenting minors.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Boyle G. et al., "Male Circumcision: Pain, Trauma and
Psychosexual Sequelae," Journal of Health Psychology (2002): 329-343.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Results in
Significant Loss of Erogenous Tissue</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A report published in the British
Journal of Urology assessed the type and amount of tissue missing from the
adult circumcised penis by examining adult foreskins obtained at autopsy.
Investigators found that circumcision removes about one-half of the erogenous
tissue on the penile shaft. The foreskin, according to the study, protects the
head of the penis and is comprised of unique zones with several kinds of specialized
nerves that are important to optimum sexual sensitivity.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Taylor, J. et al., "The Prepuce: Specialized Mucosa of the
Penis and Its Loss to Circumcision," BJU 77 (1996): 291</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">295.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Affects
Sexual Behavior</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A study published in the Journal of
the American Medical Association found that circumcision provided no
significant prophylactic benefit and that circumcised men were more likely to
engage in various sexual practices. Specifically, circumcised men were
significantly more likely to masturbate and to participate in heterosexual oral
sex than uncircumcised men.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Laumann, E. et al., "Circumcision in the U.S.: Prevalence,
Prophylactic Effects, and Sexual Practice," JAMA 277 (1997): 1052</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">1057.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Researchers Demonstrate
Traumatic Effects of Circumcision</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A team of Canadian researchers
produced new evidence that circumcision has long-lasting traumatic effects. An
article published in the international medical journal The Lancet reported the
effect of infant circumcision on pain response during subsequent routine
vaccination. The researchers tested 87 infants at 4 months or 6 months of age.
The boys who had been circumcised were more sensitive to pain than the
uncircumcised boys. Differences between groups were significant regarding
facial action, crying time, and assessments of pain.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The authors believe that
"neonatal circumcision may induce long-lasting changes in infant pain
behavior because of alterations in the infant</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">s central neural processing of painful
stimuli." They also write that "the long-term consequences of surgery
done without anaesthesia are likely to include post-traumatic stress as well as
pain. It is therefore possible that the greater vaccination response in the
infants circumcised without anaesthesia may represent an infant analogue of a
post-traumatic stress disorder triggered by a traumatic and painful event and
re-experienced under similar circumstances of pain during vaccination."</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Taddio, A. et al., "Effect of Neonatal Circumcision on Pain
Response during Subsequent Routine Vaccination," The Lancet 349 (1997):
599</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">603.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcision Study
Halted Due to Trauma</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Researchers found circumcision so
traumatic that they ended the study early rather than subject any more infants
to the operation without anesthesia. Those infants circumcised without
anesthesia experienced not only severe pain, but also an increased risk of
choking and difficulty breathing. The findings were published in the Journal of
the American Medical Association. Up to 96% of infants in some areas of the
United States receive no anesthesia during circumcision. No anesthetic
currently in use for circumcisions is effective during the most painful parts
of the procedure.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Lander, J. et al., "Comparison of Ring Block, Dorsal Penile
Nerve Block, and Topical Anesthesia for Neonatal Circumcision," JAMA 278
(1997): 2157</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">2162.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Circumcised Penis
Requires More Care in Young Boys</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The circumcised penis requires more
care than the natural penis during the first three years of life, according to
a report in the British Journal of Urology. The clinical findings of an American
pediatrician showed that circumcised boys were significantly more likely to
have skin adhesions, trapped debris, irritated urinary opening, and
inflammation of the glans (head of the penis) than were boys with a foreskin.
Furthermore, because there are large variations of appearance in circumcised
boys, circumcision for cosmetic reasons should be discouraged.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Van Howe, R., "Variability in Penile Appearance and Penile
Findings: A Prospective Study," BJU 80 (1997): 776</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">782.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Poll of Circumcised Men
Reveals Harm</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A poll of circumcised men published in
the British Journal of Urology describes adverse outcomes on men</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">s health and well-being. Findings
showed wide-ranging physical, sexual, and psychological consequences. Some respondents
reported prominent scarring and excessive skin loss. Sexual consequences
included progressive loss of sensitivity and sexual dysfunction. Emotional
distress followed the realization that they were missing a functioning part of
their penis. Low-self esteem, resentment, avoidance of intimacy, and depression
were also noted.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Hammond, T., "A Preliminary Poll of Men Circumcised in
Infancy or Childhood," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 85</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">92</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Psychological Effects of
Circumcision Studied</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">An article titled "The
Psychological Impact of Circumcision" reports that circumcision results in
behavioral changes in infants and long-term unrecognized psychological effects
on men. The piece reviews the medical literature on infants</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">�</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> responses to circumcision and
concludes, "there is strong evidence that circumcision is overwhelmingly
painful and traumatic." The article notes that infants exhibit behavioral
changes after circumcision, and some men have strong feelings of anger, shame,
distrust, and grief about having been circumcised. In addition, circumcision
has been shown to disrupt the mother-infant bond, and some mothers report
significant distress after allowing their son to be circumcised. Psychological
factors perpetuate circumcision. According to the author, "defending
circumcision requires minimizing or dismissing the harm and producing
overstated medical claims about protection from future harm. The ongoing denial
requires the acceptance of false beliefs and misunderstanding of facts. These
psychological factors affect professionals, members of religious groups, and
parents involved in the practice."</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Expressions from circumcised men are
generally lacking because most circumcised men do not understand what
circumcision is, emotional repression keeps feelings from awareness, or men may
be aware of these feelings but afraid of disclosure.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Goldman, R., "The Psychological Impact of
Circumcision," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 93</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">102</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Serious Consequences of
Circumcision Trauma in Adult Men Clinically Observed</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Using four case examples that are
typical among his clients, a practicing psychiatrist presents clinical findings
regarding the serious and sometimes disabling long-term somatic, emotional, and
psychological consequences of infant circumcision in adult men. These
consequences resemble complex post-traumatic stress disorder and emerge during
psychotherapy focused on the resolution of perinatal and developmental trauma.
Adult symptoms associated with circumcision trauma include shyness, anger,
fear, powerlessness, distrust, low self-esteem, relationship difficulties, and
sexual shame. Long-term psychotherapy dealing with early trauma resolution
appears to be effective in healing these consequences.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Rhinehart, J., "Neonatal Circumcision Revistited,"
Transactional Analysis Journal 29 (1999): 215-221</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Anatomy and Function of
the Foreskin Documented</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A new article describes the foreskin
(prepuce) as an integral, normal part of the genitals of mammals. It is
specialized, protective, erogenous tissue. A description of the complex nerve
structure of the penis explains why anesthetics provide incomplete pain relief
during circumcision. Cutting off the foreskin removes many fine-touch receptors
from the penis and results in thickening and desensitization of the glans outer
layer. The complex anatomy and function of the foreskin dictate that
circumcision should be avoided or deferred until the person can make an
informed decision as an adult.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Cold, C. and Taylor, J., "The Prepuce," BJU 83 (1999):
suppl. 1: 34</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">44.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Male Circumcision
Affects Female Sexual Enjoyment</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A survey of women who have had sexual
experience with circumcised and anatomically complete partners showed that the
anatomically complete penis was preferred over the circumcised penis. Without
the foreskin to provide a movable sleeve of skin, intercourse with a
circumcised penis resulted in female discomfort from increased friction,
abrasion, and loss of natural secretions. Respondents overwhelmingly concurred
that the mechanics of coitus were different for the two groups of men.
Unaltered men tended to thrust more gently with shorter strokes.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">O</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Hara, K. and O</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Hara,
J., "The Effect of Male Circumcision on the Sexual Enjoyment of the Female
Partner," BJU 83 (1999): suppl. 1: 79</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">�</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">84</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Male Circumcision and
Psychosexual Effects Investigated</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Infant male circumcision continues
despite growing questions about its medical justification. As usually performed
without analgesia or anesthetic, circumcision is observably painful. It is
likely that genital cutting has physical, sexual, and psychological
consequences, too. Some studies link involuntary male circumcision with a range
of negative emotions and even post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Some
circumcised men have described their current feelings in the language of
violation, torture, mutilation, and sexual assault. In view of the acute as
well as long-term risks from circumcision and the legal liabilities that might
arise, it is timely for health professionals and scientists to re-examine the
evidence on this issue and participate in the debate about the advisability of
this surgical procedure on unconsenting minors.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Boyle, G., Goldman, R., Svoboda, J.S., and Fernandez, E.,
"Male Circumcision: Pain, Trauma, and Psychosexual Sequelae," Journal
of Health Psychology 7 (2002): 329-343.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Surveys Reveal Adverse
Sexual and Psychological Effects of Circumcision</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">A survey of the 35 female and 42 gay
sexual partners of circumcised and genitally intact men, and a separate survey
of 53 circumcised and genitally intact men, and a separate survey of 30
genitally intact men themselves indicated that circumcised men experienced
significantly reduced sexual sensation along with associated long-lasting
negative emotional consequences.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Boyle, G. and Bensley, G., "Adverse Sexual and
Psychological Effects of Male Infant Circumcision,". Psychological Reports
88 (2001): 1105-1106.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Foreskin Reduces the
Force Required for Penetration and Increases Comfort</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Masters and Johnson observed that the
foreskin unrolled with intercourse. However, they overlooked a prior
observation that intromission (i.e., penetration) was thereby made easier. To
evaluate this observation an artificial introitus was mounted on scales.
Repeated measurements showed a 10-fold reduction of force on entry with an
initially unretracted foreskin as compared to entry with a retracted foreskin.
For the foreskin to reduce the force required it must cover most of the glans
when the penis is erect.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Taves, D., "The Intromission Function of the
Foreskin," Med Hypotheses 59 (2002): 180.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Survey of Men
Circumcised as Adults Shows Mixed Results</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Men circumcised as adults were surveyed
to assess erectile function, penile sensitivity, sexual activity and overall
satisfaction. Over 80% of these men were circumcised to treat a medical
problem. The response rate was 44% among potential responders. Mean age of
responders was 42 years at circumcision and 46 years at survey. Adult
circumcision appears to result in worsened erectile function, decreased penile
sensitivity, no change in sexual activity, and improved satisfaction. Of the
men 50% reported benefits and 38% reported harm. Overall, 62% of men were
satisfied with having been circumcised. Note: Results may be affected by the
fact that there was no sample of normal, healthy, genitally intact men for
comparison.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Fink, K., Carson, C., DeVellis, R., "Adult Circumcision
Outcomes Study: Effect on Erectile Function, Penile Sensitivity, Sexual
Activity and Satisfaction," J Urol 167 (2002): 2113-2116.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Survey Finds
Circumcision Contributes to Vaginal Dryness</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">The impact of male circumcision on
vaginal dryness during coitus was investigated. We conducted a survey of 35
female sexual partners aged 18 to 69 years who had experienced sexual
intercourse with both circumcised and genitally intact men. Women reported they
were significantly more likely to have experienced vaginal dryness during
intercourse with circumcised than with genitally intact men.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Bensley, G. and Boyle, G., "Effects of Male Circumcision on
Female Arousal and Orgasm," N Z Med J 116 (2003): 595-596.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #720000; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Early Adverse
Experiences May Lead to Abnormal Brain Development and Behavior</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Self-destructive behavior in current
society promotes a search for psychobiological factors underlying this
epidemic. The brain of the newborn infant is particularly vulnerability to
early adverse experiences, leading to abnormal development and behavior. Although
several investigations have correlated newborn complications with abnormal
adult behavior, our understanding of the underlying mechanisms remains
rudimentary. Models of early experience, such as repetitive pain, sepsis, or
maternal separation in rodents and other species have noted multiple
alterations in the adult brain, correlated with specific behavioral types
depending on the timing and nature of the adverse experience. The mechanisms
mediating such changes in the newborn brain have remained largely unexplored.
Maternal separation, sensory isolation (understimulation), and exposure to
extreme or repetitive pain (overstimulation) may cause altered brain
development. (Circumcision is described as an intervention with long-term
neurobehavioral effects.) These changes promote two distinct behavioral types
characterized by increased anxiety, altered pain sensitivity, stress disorders,
hyperactivity/attention deficit disorder, leading to impaired social skills and
patterns of self-destructive behavior. The clinical importance of these
mechanisms lies in the prevention of early adverse experiences and effective
treatment of newborn pain and stress.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Anand, K. and Scalzo, F., "Can Adverse Neonatal Experiences
Alter Brain Development and Subsequent Behavior? Biol Neonate 77 (2000): 69-82</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">Note: CRC disapproves of animal
studies that involve inflicting pain.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Am 18.07.2012 um 12:54 schrieb bbpp:<br />
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</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><br />
Auch DIE ZEIT meldet sich zu dem Thema! Weiterverbreitet<br />
durch<br />
<a href="http://www.presseurop.eu/de/content/article/2381681-warum-beschneidung-wehtut" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">http://www.presseurop.eu/de/content/article/2381681-warum-beschneidung-wehtut</span></a><br />
Also, die Diskussion, ausgelöst durch das Kölner Urteil,
entfaltet den WUNDEN SCHNITT-PUNKT der verschiedenen Interessen mit seltener
Offen und Vielfältigkeit!!</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"><br />
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<b><span style="background: #DCEEFF; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Offener
Brief</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;"> zur <span style="color: #366388;">Beschneidung</span>„</span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;">Religionsfreiheit</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;"> kann kein <span style="color: #366388;">Freibrief</span> für <span style="color: #366388;">Gewalt</span> sein“</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">21.07.2012 · In der
Beschneidungsdebatte appellieren mehr als 100 </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Mediziner</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> und </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Juristen</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> an </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Bundesregierung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> und</span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Bundestag</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">, </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">die Kinder</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> stärker zu schützen.
Hier ist der volle Brief.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/?selectedTab=article&showMarginalSlot=1" target="_blank"><span style="color: #366388;">Artikel</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/?selectedTab=comments&tabCounter=1&showMarginalSlot=1&commentsCount=23" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999;">Lesermeinungen (23)</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/offener-brief-zur-beschneidung-religionsfreiheit-kann-kein-freibrief-fuer-gewalt-sein-11827590.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999;">http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/offener-brief-zur-beschneidung-religionsfreiheit-kann-kein-freibrief-fuer-gewalt-sein-11827590.html</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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==================================</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Anschauliches und Hörbares zum
Thema "</span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Beschneidung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">"</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"><a href="http://vimeo.com/22940047" target="_blank"><span style="color: #366388;">http://vimeo.com/22940047</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> ======================================</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="background: #DCEEFF; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Zitat</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> aus der Homepage der <span style="color: #366388;">DPtV</span>:</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Diskussion</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> um </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif";">Beschneidung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif";"> von Jungen</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">24.07.12</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">Brief
des Bundesvorsitzenden <span style="color: #366388;">Dieter Best</span> an
die <span style="color: #366388;">Bundesregierung</span></span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt;">In
dem Brief schließt sich die DPtV, vertreten durch den Bundesvorsitzenden Dieter
Best,<br />
der Bitte an, keine gesetzliche Lösung ohne eine gründliche Sichtung<br />
der Forschungsergebnisse über mögliche somatische und psychische Folgen der
Beschneidung von Jungen zu treffen.</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><a href="http://www.deutschepsychotherapeutenvereinigung.de/fileadmin/main/g-datei-download/News/2012/Brief_BMJ_-_Beschneidung.pdf" target="_blank" title="Leitet Herunterladen der Datei ein"><span style="color: #999999;">Vollständiger Brief</span><span style="color: #c61b36; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"><br />
</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><a href="http://www.deutschepsychotherapeutenvereinigung.de/fileadmin/main/g-datei-download/News/2012/Literaturhinweise_zum_Thema.pdf" target="_blank" title="Leitet Herunterladen der Datei ein"><span style="color: #366388;">Literaturhinweise</span></a><br />
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</span></b><span style="background: #D8DBD8; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Mit dem Credo "Niemand hat das Recht zu
gehorchen" lehnte sie - Hannah Ahrndt alle Rückgriffe auf religiöse Dogmen
zur Begründung von Gewissen und Moral ab, weil sie zutiefst davon überzeugt
war, dass die auf solchen Wegen erzeugten Werte manipulierbar sind. In religiös
organisierten Systemen kann jeder Moralkodex beliebig umgedeutet werden;
wogegen die Vorstellung einer gemeinschaftlichen Ethik immer wieder neu
überdacht und ausgehandelt werden müsse.</span><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 18.0pt;"><br />
</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;"><br />
</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;"><a href="http://derstandard.at/1343743502670/Kein-Anlass-fuer-religioese-Erpressung" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;">http://derstandard.at/1343743502670/Kein-Anlass-fuer-religioese-Erpressung</span></a><span style="color: #454545;"><br />
<br />
</span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.cicero.de/salon/toleranz-gehoert-nicht-zu-deutschland-beschneidungsurteil/49859?seite=3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Courier;">http://www.cicero.de/salon/toleranz-gehoert-nicht-zu-deutschland-beschneidungsurteil/49859?seite=3</span></a><br />
</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;"><br />
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</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;"> The
Cologne judgment has also sparked a fine debate </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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psycho-analytic and medical circles</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 13.5pt;">The
PSYCHIC trauma that circumcision entails consigns the practice to the
domain of the atavistic An ethnic or religious group that after however
many of thousand years cannot come up with a better unifying practice must be
regarded as forever benighted. Like female circumcision, male circumcision
exists not so much to cement a community, but as a patriarchal practice, to
keep the sons and daughters in line, and, not so incidentally, eliminate
a great deal of sexual pleasure. That is scarcely "Kuechen
Psychologie"! A number of matters are are being confused here:
Inoculations can be administered painlessly - a mosquito bite is not comparable
with the narcissistic and fundamental Oedipal trauma that is circumcision.
Usage, custom could allow all sorts of other entirely atavistic traditions, no?
Headhunters anyone? if someone wishes to argue the matter from that angle. To
introduce the notion of intolerance into this discussion, also, is not
pertinent to the issue, as well as contradictory, since a child if he wishes
could decide to be circumcised, say, at the time of Bar Mitzvah, or equivalent
Islam rite. Actually, the elimination of the practice of circumcision would
also go some ways toward abating irrational forms of anti-Semitism, both
Judaism and Islam being Semitic religions. That some of the Religious will be
narcissistically mortified once one of their practices is prohibited - all I
can say: EDUCATE yourselves, empathize with the child and the trauma it suffers
so that you THE BELIEVER can regard its continuance as sacred! Or: get over it!<a href="http://www.facebook.com/mike.roloff1?ref=name" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999; font-size: 12.0pt;">http://www.facebook.com/mike.roloff1?ref=name</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Öffentliche </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Sitzung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> des
Ethikrates zum Thema </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Beschneidung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> im
August<br />
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Pressemitteilung </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Deutscher Ethikrat</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">,
Ulrike </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Florian</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">, 27.07.2012 10:34<br />
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Öffentliche Sitzung des Ethikrates zum Thema Beschneidung im August<br />
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Zudem richtet der Ethikrat eine </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Arbeitsgruppe</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> zum
Thema </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Biosicherheit</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> und </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Forschungsfreiheit</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> ein
und beschließt Thema der </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Jahrestagung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> 2013.<br />
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Am 23. August 2012 wird sich der Ethikrat im Rahmen einer öffentlichen </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Plenarsitzung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> mit
dem aktuell diskutierten Thema der Beschneidung von minderjährigen Jungen aus
religiösen Gründen beschäftigen. Die Ratsmitglieder Peter Dabrock,</span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Wolfram</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> Höfling,
Ilhan Ilkilic, </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Leo</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> Latasch und Reinhard Merkel
werden in Impulsreferaten strafrechtliche, religiös-kulturelle, medizinische
und ethische Aspekte der Beschneidung in den </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Blick</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> nehmen
und im </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Plenum</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> zur </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Diskussion</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> stellen.<br />
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Darüber hinaus wird der Ethikrat im </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Auftrag</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> der </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Bundesregierung</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> eine
Stellungnahme zum Thema „Biosicherheit und Forschungsfreiheit –
Forschungsförderung und Umgang mit Forschungsergebnissen“ erarbeiten. </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Hintergrund</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> dieses
Auftrags sind Forschungen in den USA und den Niederlanden, bei denen Grippeviren
erzeugt wurden, die im Vergleich zu ihren Wildformen leichter zwischen
Säugetieren übertragbar sind. Im Verlauf seiner gestrigen Plenarsitzung hat der
Ethikrat beschlossen, eine Arbeitsgruppe zu </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">diesem
Thema</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> einzurichten, und die nächsten Arbeitsschritte festgelegt.<br />
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Im Mittelpunkt der Jahrestagung 2013 wird die Forschung am </span></b><b><span style="background: #DCEEFF; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Menschen</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">, vor
allem mit Blick auf Fragen des Probanden- und Patientenschutzes im globalen
Kontext, stehen.<br />
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Weitere </span></b><b><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;">Informationen</span></b><b><span style="color: #454545; font-family: "Georgia","serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"> unter </span></b><b><span style="color: #666666; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 16.0pt;"><a href="http://www.ethikrat.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #366388; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">http://www.ethikrat.org/.</span></a></span></b><b><span style="color: #666666; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><br />
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: Courier; font-size: 13.5pt;">Herr Josef Joffe von DIE ZEIT meldet sich zu Worte in der
Beschneidungsangelegehenheit, im WALL STREET JOURNAL, dem nach zu urteilen sind
die Neo-Cons fuer die Beschneidung und ich fuer die Abschneidung der Neo-Cons!</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 16.0pt;">Die Juedische Allgemeine berichtet
von der Aufregung ueber</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 16.0pt;">die Beschneidungs Debatte in ihrer
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<a href="http://derstandard.at/1343743502670/Kein-Anlass-fuer-religioese-Erpressung" target="_blank">http://derstandard.at/1343743502670/Kein-Anlass-fuer-religioese-Erpressung</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 13.5pt;">und
eine laufende grosse Diskussion </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 13.5pt;">und
auch </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 13.5pt;"><a href="http://www.cicero.de/salon/toleranz-gehoert-nicht-zu-deutschland-beschneidungsurteil/49859?seite=3" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999; font-size: 14.0pt;">http://www.cicero.de/salon/toleranz-gehoert-nicht-zu-deutschland-beschneidungsurteil/49859?seite=3</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="background: lime; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">When
got wind of the impending Ethik Council meeting I initially contacted
Frau Dr. Woopen of the Ethic Council<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: #D0D0D0; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16.0pt;">Liebe geehrte
Frau Dr. Woopen,</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="background: #D0D0D0; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">Ich
wollte Sie, als Leiterin des Ethikrates,</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.ethikrat.org/" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: #999999;">http://www.ethikrat.org/</span></b></a> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://geschichte-ethik.uk-koeln.de/forschungsstelle-ethik/mitarbeiter" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999;">http://geschichte-ethik.uk-koeln.de/forschungsstelle-ethik/mitarbeiter</span></a> </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="background: #D0D0D0; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;"> aufmerksam
machen darauf dass auch<br />
bei der hauptsächlich Deutschen von Dr. Gerd Boettcher </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://onlinestreet.de/152663-berliner-blaetter-fuer-psychoanalyse-und-psychotherapie-gerd-boettcher" target="_blank"><span style="color: #999999;">http://onlinestreet.de/152663-berliner-blaetter-fuer-psychoanalyse-und-psychotherapie-gerd-boettcher</span></a> </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="background: #D0D0D0; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 18.0pt;">geleiteten
psychotherapeuten@yahoogroups.de<br />
es eine kontuierlich blühende Diskussion über das Thema Beschneidung gibt,
in dem sich das gros der Mitglieder, aber auch nicht alle, gegen den
Brauch des Bris wenden. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b style="background-color: white; line-height: 14.65pt;"><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: Courier; font-size: 13.5pt;">entirely at</span></b></div>
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SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com1622tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-86451844836459767992012-03-15T04:49:00.001-07:002012-03-15T04:50:01.239-07:00PART II - NOTES TOWARD A PSYCHOANALYSIS OF READING [HANDKE]<br />
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
was going to open Part II with a list of books that I can read repeatedly, in
some instances yearly, and I will do so, but I have been busy, and have been
reflecting, have had time to, which means that I don't feel satisfied with Part
I, and need to amplify as I do at length in the first and second footnote where
put a lot of stuff about books I read that was becoming a big buffer to what I
want to focus on in Part II and that really belong at the end of Part I, the
personal part.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">For
one I forgot this romantic’s adolescent love of Saint Exupery’s <u>Wind, Sand
& Storm</u>. I re-iterate mention of the various incursions of what is
known as the Psychopathology of the Everyday into reading which could fill an encyclopedia
of Ripleys’ Believe it or Not: mis-readings, also called misprisions, all kinds
of hallucinations that enter readings, especially at times of tiredness, or
under the impulses of wishes becoming manifest in the course of reading – the
phenomenon known as transference I will address anon, perhaps it is implicit in
mention of projection! Mistakes also occur while translating, the funniest of
that kind that I am guilty of is translating a Handke sentence in his <u>Self-Accusation</u>
that means to say that the character, the man of the two-some, “lay down on the
floor during the months that lacked the letter “R”, that is, an utterly
inconsequential infraction, as “I lay with R while she had her period” – a
simple misreading of what the noun “Monate/ Months” can imply; which means that
having sex on my mind as I still do a lot at an age that I had hoped I would
not, seized that moment back in the late 1960s - In the Caribbean – I used to
repair briefly to Boqueron in Puerto Rico in winter - its inhabitants are so
inured to warm water they only go swimming in the months that lack the letter
“R” – May through August: at other times
the water is too cold for them. The Psychopathology of the Everyday
Reading in other words opens up a major can of worms – not where I am going
fishing here.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">If
I reflect on the books that affected me within just a few years of having
learned to read, that is to decipher, unconsciously, quickly as though second
nature - Deists would use the simile of gears, in a clock, whirring, con-currently,
with MIRs being taken of brain activity the pretty analogies, color patches of
chemo-electric activities serve the literal-minded phrenologists as crutches of
what transpires as mind is generated and expires in brawling hockey players -
the numerous signals conveyed by text, I reach the conclusion that these first
books – Fridjof Nansen’s <u>The Voyage of the Fram</u>, Dostoevsky’s <u>Crime
and Punishment</u> and the apparently sexy <u>Kleine Brise</u> and its solitary
kiss, reached rather deeply into me, what a surprise at the time, what I need
to call “my self,” its shallows and depths.
Nansen’s account of his ship, the <i>Fram</i>,
locked in ice, slowly crushed, apparently elicited a deep projection on my
part, it connected, the story, the images it evoked, about which I as an
analyst have a great deal to say, but not here. That is not what I am after.
Ditto for <u>Die Kleine Brise</u>, the first instance of reading having a
consciously remembered pornographic effect, which in a few more years would be
succeeded by leching for the unexpurgated version of <u>Lady Chatterly</u> and
of Henry Miller’s <i>Sexus</i>. Meanwhile… but never mind. I did publish
George Bataille’s <i>Story of the Eye</i>
with unforeseeable consequences, at least for the love life in the once Tribeca
of the 70s and 80s. Or I could cite fellow consumer of pornography’s great <u>Don
Juan [As told by himself]</u>. Ditto for Crime and Punishment. Numerous books
would affect me in the future, lastingly, especially during adolescence and
other early years. Books became orientation points for self-discovery - not
invariably a pleasant experience. Most of these books belong to the repertoire
of a liberal education, and it is within that realm that this standard exerts a
kind of general frame of reference, exerts its aura. It would entirely divert
from the focus on very special experiences to be had with Handke’s art and
possibly prove tiresome if I gave an account of all the reading I did until I
got lucky with Handke, but if you are interested, there’s always Part I of this
essay and my appendices to it [1] + [2] here which I will join soon.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">As
noted: some books you can read again and again, <u>Under the Volcano</u>, lots
of Conrad, Goethe’s <u>Wilhelm Meister</u>, <u>Elective Affinities</u>,
Nossack’s <u>The Impossible Proof</u>, Flaubert’s <u>Sentimental Education</u>,
<u>Madame Bovary</u>, Lampedusa’s <u>The Leopard</u>, the only novel I know
that engages your [my] sense of smell: it appears to exude the entirety of the
Sicilian bouquet: look how suggestible a reader can be, even one who still
smokes half a dozen little cigars a day! Most of Shakespeare, Gertrude Stein,
Hesse’s <u>Steppenwolf</u>, Ford Maddox Ford’s <u>The Good Soldier</u>,
Novalis, Eichendorf, Cervantes, the
Greeks, the Romans, the Russkies… lots of poets, etc., etc. Of Handke’s for me
the book I reread nearly every few years is the title novel of the trilogy
published in the U.S.as <u>A Slow Homecoming</u>. I have my hunches as to why I
re-read this particular Handke book more than any of the others, it’s the
opening chapter: I think what counts in this instance isn’t so much whatever
sensitivity I bring to the text, nor any special reading ability, but a shared
experience of having been in Alaska that reaches deep. Handke’s very sparseness
in not naming makes it so effective for me: nothing idiosyncratic intervenes,
stands between me and the world the words evoke. The seismographer’s lens is
set right. The first time I read that chapter was a major event, since,
evidently, I with my nine months in Alaska and a few dozen major experiences
there had been waiting for a response to its very immensity,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
writing in the aforementioned, or these kinds of titles, appears to remain
fresh, it keeps eliciting fresh responses, an entirely subjective experience
shared by many readers, sometimes for entirely subjective, at other times for
shared reasons. The resources in your brain where reading has become quasi
second-nature are doing their deciphering translating work in the background at
a perfect clip, the rules are being obeyed but not in a hackneyed fashion, the
writer’s melody his whatever sings exerts itself through the text, perhaps you
even become engaged in a dialogue with the text, annotate it, the more the more
you noice on repeated readings; there are no unaesthetic intrusions, Gerald
Manley Hopkins “sprung rhythm does not appear like a Billy goat in these
proceedings, these readers are all rapt attention, utterly absorbed, the world
outside their reading is entirely forgotten, at most peripherally present.
Animals can be like that when they are hunting. Handke himself has a fine
description of a reader like that, a young woman on a train, in his 2007
MORAVIAN NIGHTS. A “reader” is one of the six Artists, his own six artistic
sides, that become characters in NO-MAN’S-BAY, a Hoelderlin reader unless
fantasy betrays me. Photos of the inside of Handke’s house show him living in a
chaos of books. Also a great editor since early on.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">https://picasaweb.google.com/106505819654688893791/CHAVILLEPHOTOS<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
critical faculties, the gloomy grammarians’ demands for numerous interlocking
rules have all been met; those dogs are sleeping dogs, lie well fed in their
cubicles. The state of mind during this kind of reading is a kind of dreaming
while awake. It is, I believe, incomparable to any other state of mind, as this
kind of reading experience is to any other experience or all the other reading
experiences that we have day in day out.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">At
some point in your life you can trust your ability to judge a text because you
have cracked certain other difficult texts, not just Finnegan’s Wake, or
Beckett but, say, Uwe Johnson’s <u>Speculations About Jakob, The Third Book
About Achim</u> which made great but justifiable and rewarding demands on me.
As an editor I once had one truly amazing experience. The writer Michael
Brodsky by way of Patricia Highsmith met Handke who then sent him to me.
Brodsky arrived late one afternoon with a maroon leather satchel, large enough
to hold five manuscripts. After he left I opened the satchel and took a look at
the first page of each manuscript: four novels and one collection of novellas,
and was astounded: there it was, the real thing, the raison d’etre of the
existence of the firm. A unique experience, but one that confirms me in my
suspicion that I could trust my judgment in that respect. Subsequently a few
“cliff hangers” reached me that we
declined.[3] <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Had
it not been that I had translated a number of Handke works, especially WALK
ABOUT THE VILLAGES, and had some interesting experience with its author, I
don’t think I would have been obsessed with Handke and his texts for 20 + years
at around the time my own analysis was completed to the extent that it never is
and I found a subject aside myself and noticed how some of Handke’s later mid-life texts, starting with THE REPETITION,
began to affect me. Not that the earlier one, say <u>Moment of True Feeling</u>
or <u>Der Hausierer</u> or <u>Sorrow Beyond Dreams</u> and <u>Weight of the
World</u> had not induced states of mind. [4]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">“A quarter of a century or a day has passed
since I arrived in Jesenice on the trail of my missing brother.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> I was
not yet twenty and had taken my final school examination. I ought to have felt
free, for afer months of study the summer months lay open before me. But I had
set out with mixed feelings what with my old father, my ailing mother and my
confused sister at home in Rinkenberg. Besides, after being released from the
seminary I had got used, during the past year, to my class in the state school
in Klagenfurt where girls were in the majority, and now suddenly found myself I
alone. While my classmates piled into the bus and set out for Greece, I played
the loner who peferred to go to Greece by himself. The truth was I simply did
not have the mone for the grpup trip. Another reason for my unease was that I
had never been outside Austria and knew very little Slovene, though it was
hardly a foreign language for an inhabitant of a village in southern Austria. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> After
a glance at my newly issued Austrian passport, the border guard in Jesenice
spoke to me in his language. When I failed to understand he told me in German
that Kobal was a Slavic name, that the word meant the span between parted leg,
a "step", and consequently a
person with legs outspread, so that my name would have better suited him
the border guard. The elderly official beside him, white haird, in civilian
clothes, with the round rimless glasses of a scholar, explained with a smile
that the related verb meant to "ride", to "climb"; thus my
given name, Filip, "lover of horses", fitted in with Kobal and he
felt sure I would some daydo honor to my name.” <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Meanwhile, I have realized – that famous
bitterness! - that although some friends share the experience I have had with
Handke texts, others are entirely obtuse. The most depressing experience along
that line was my use of my translation of Handke’s richest work, WALK ABOUT THE
VILLAGES [5] – it contains all of him and can draw everything out of a involved
translator - as a kind of heart test. This ultimately depressing test confirmed
the suspicion that at least in that respect this is to, too large an extent for
my liking, the frequently described heartless world, a world without
imagination, crow greedy! Gnat spannish! No wonder, really, that you can win an
election with a single slogan, repeated over and over. The few did not make up
for the great majority. But at least I was not entirely alone in my mad liking!
As I proceeded in my testing with various Handke texts I kept losing or being
disappointed in more and more friends. Who experiences reading? Speed readers!
Thus one of my favorite Adorno’s statements - degustibus disputandum est -
holds to a catastrophic degree. Chacun sa gout! However, no one can dispute my
experience, only my attempt to account for them, which might be inept,
insufficient, biased, incomplete. There were a handful of happy surprises, but
too few to build a culture on. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Many of Handke’s works, not all, provide
absolutely unique experiences, of and on a different order altogether from my
other reading experiences and most theatrical experiences. To explain to myself
how Handke’s plays work I found it easier to think of him as a composer than a
writer, and of course in that respect I am not the only one. Early on there
were those who described the musical compositional forms of these plays. Now
some dissertations are beginning to appreciate the sound of his ear,too. [6]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Reading
Handke affords experiences and pleasures
that are unavailable in any other way. Anyhow, I at least have not had them,
although I have to admit that my way of reading changed, became more complex I
think, after, not that there really is an after to an ongoing experience such
as a psychoanalysis.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Although I don’t think Handke is ever sublime,
no matter how angelic or joyous the sheer writing, once he matured to the
height of his self he became a writer in the great tradition, with some major
twists and enhancements.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Handke was a virtuoso from early on,
occasionally he has been shaken to the core, but he has recovered. Handke can
re-magick the world, as in <u>Crossing the Sierra del Gredos,</u> his use of
the filmic can have a kinesthetic effect on one’s perceptions, because Handke
is so much more precise also in his use of vagueness… and I will provide a
series of examples of what I mean in addition to my account of the experiences
I have had with some of his plays. However, since I make such heavy use of the
concepts experience and state of mind I want, before I continue on to a number
of specifics - and an attempt to account for these particular Handke
experiences - to provide a riff on each of those concepts, and also on the
all-important concept of “The Dream Screen.” <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> I have had all other kinds of state of
mind altering experiences, none but one is comparable to the experiences I have
had with Handke texts and plays. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Since I was given a placebo at Menlo Park
Veterans Hospital in 1960 my experience of acid comes by way of Tom Wolfe’s
mimicry of that experience in his <u>Electric Cool Aid Acid</u> <u>Test</u>, a
novel use of language tricks if nothing else; and the unhappy one of having
noted what too much acid did to the brains of some friends. Marijuana either
puts me to sleep, or turns me into a rapist, even at this late and unexpected
age, thus I only partook when ladies who know their pleasures suggested so, and
even then I might, subsequently, feel painfully disassociated from myself. However,
Mary Jane certainly alters your sense of time, and allows the mind to become
very focused, to the point of even greater imbecility. Cocaine energizes and
disinhibits and so Eros may easily misuse it. That of course was the great fear
in the South during the 19th century. But aside from certain intensifications I
cannot say that it has state of mind altering properties, at least for me.
Grandiosity? A friend once had me take half a line of heroin, I promptly fell
asleep and don’t recall anything else. The experience with Donnotal, a pill
that consists of equal parts Bella Donna, which calms your heart, and
Phenobarbital, a barbiturate, is not to be recommended when evaluating texts:
you [I] respond to cliches as though you had never seen them before, the world
is blue and pink, delightful, even more girls look beautiful, at least they did
to me while I took Donnatal for some months to assuage a pain in my gut that
would have been better relieved by seeing a lawyer. I was drunk maybe once or
twice in my life and did not enjoy the experience, and with an alcoholically
unhappy stepfather felt nothing but aversion to the likes of him in that state;
although prior to having Donnatal prescribed for about a year I drank half a
bottle of brandy and then went to dance it off. That way I made acquaintance
with no end of great brandies, but only once needed to be walked home, by Gena
and Lisa Giobbi, who were laughing their pretty heads of as the supported the
weaving ship. Thus the most pleasurable experiences I have had were of various
arts, and these were always unexpected, especially music I, too, may have
experienced most of the states of mind that flesh is heir to. Great joy, fear,
the horrors of abandonment at too early an age, mental torture. [7]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> One marvelous experience that is akin to
some experiences with Handke texts was navigating the Straits of Hormuz – the entrance to the
Gulf of Persia - on a full moonlit nite, the Persian gulf a silvery mirror of
the sea, the metal of the 12 thousand ton freighter barely communicating the
tremors from the engine room, trembling as the engine worked at low speed, and
half a dozen porpoises riding, gliding, surfing the bow wave, they too like a
free ride if they can catch one, and I and the 2nd Lieutenant in the wheelhouse
and my then walking down to the deck and out to the bow, the sandy high cliffs
on both sides of the strait, moonlit tan, with a long curved island in the
middle, the islands make navigating tricky, also lighted by the moon, as the
Hellenic Splendor glided on the Mirror of the Sea; that kind of “nunc stans”
experience you can also have at moments with Handke texts except that the
moment extends – especially in Crossing the Sierra del Gredos so that you can
surf for hours at a time and become a Handke porpoise! I could see why Conrad
liked the sea so much. This child who absorbed his mother’s optimism
intra-uterine probably lacks the courage to despair, but certainly not for
disgust. Handke who was born near congenitally depressive and only later repaired
to a kind of defiant optimism and joi de vivre, a joyfulness I encountered
in his now 2011 latest novel <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">http://goaliesanxiety.blogspot.com/2011/07/peter-handkes-latest-novel.html<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> would seem better suited for realistic
assessments than I. But all other above enumerated experiences are entirely
different from my experiences with Handke texts and plays.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Excursi
On<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">EXPERIENCE<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">&<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">STATE
OF MIND<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> My frequent use of the word
"experience" requires...not a whole book, the re-invention of the
wheel... you know what I mean, experience! someone hits you over the head, you
have a head ache. One experience leads to another. You are born! What an
experience that is, most likely you have forgotten, after all your skin was
insensate,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">but
your body has not, it is an experience that can be retrieved under
psychoanalysis. Most likely that will take a while until you get to it! And the
process of getting there will be quite an experience, for sure. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">ER-LEB-NIS<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Is
the German for experience - something that you have lived, that has lived you,
that has made a memorable impression, which leads to the expression lived
experience, indicating a weakening of the word experience by its lonely elf.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Dreams, too, are<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">experiences.
<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Some
are so powerful that<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
‘wolfman’<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">will
have fallen ill <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">from
the fright dream:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">wolves
in a window! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Your
[my] first dream is especially memorable.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Sleepwalking
will not be.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Here
I am discussing very particular experiences,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">experiences
while reading texts.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Not
quite the same as “reading”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">animal
traces<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">or
“traces of the lost.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">That
is, during a state of concentration, perhaps a very entranced and leisurely
one, in a state of pleasure at how series of sentences and words effect, create
your state of mind,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">affecting
it.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Shared
experiences<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">with
fellow readers, friends,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">liking
or hating a text can break or make for friendships, differentiate,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
small difference! A small difference that no longer<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">matters
now. Wish it were so with the Sunnis and the Shiites!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
19th century had the warring camps of Brahms<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">and
Wagner acolytes. We had the warring factions of those who swore by the Beatles
or the Stones.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Reading
experiences, translating<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">experiences,
<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">experiences
in the theater are simultaneously<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">shared
experiences, communal, <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">as
well as private. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">At
the first performance of<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Handke's
RIDE ACROSS LAKE CONSTANCE<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">at
the Vivian Beaumont<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">at
Lincoln Center,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
chiefly subscription audience,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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of premieres, revolted<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">at
being involved in a piece without a story, <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">confronted
with pure<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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with a verbal game. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"George: And have you ever heard of a
"fiery Eskimo"<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: Not that I know<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: If you don't know it, then you
haven't heard of it either. But the expression "a flying ship" - that
you have heard?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: At most in a fairy tale.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: But scurrying snakes exist?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: Of course not.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: But fiery Eskimos - they exist?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: I can't imagine it.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: But flying ships exist?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: At most in a dream.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: Not in reality?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: Not in reality.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">pause<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: But born losers?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: Consequently they exist.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: And born trouble makers?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: They exist.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: And therefore there are born
criminals.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: It's only logical.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: As I wanted to say at the time...<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: [interrupts him] "At the time"?
Has it been that long already?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George [hesitates, astonished] Yes, that's
odd! [Then continues rapidly] Just as there are born losers, born
troublemakers, and born criminals, there are [he spreads is fingers.] born
owners. Most people as soon as they own something are not themselves any
more.[Those who are familiar with the subsequent, what I call "the
transitional play", THEY ARE DYING OUT [1973]will note the similarity
between RIDE and DYING in an instance like this one.] “They lose their balance
and become ridiculous. Estranged from themselves they begin to squint. Bed
wetters who stand next to their bed in the morning. [The bed signifies
possession. Or perhaps their shame?] [brief moment of confusion, then he
continues at once]. I, on the other hand, am a born loser: only when I possess
something do I become myself...<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: [interrupts him] "Born
owner" I've never heard that expression.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">pause<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: [suddenly] "Life is a
game..." You must have heard people say that?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">P. 77<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: Only one thing I don't understand. Of
what significance is the winter evening to the story? There was no need to
mention it, was there? [Jannings closes his eyes and thinks] Are you asleep?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: [opens his eyes] Yes, that was it!
You asked me whether I was dreaming and I told you how long I sleep during the
winter nights and that I then begin to dream toward morning and as an example I
wanted to tell you a dream that might occur during a winter night.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: Might occur?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: I invented a dream. As I said, it was
only an example. the sort of thing that goes through one's head... As I said -
a story?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: But the kidneys flambe?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: Have you ever had kidneys flambe?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: Not that i know.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Jannings: If you don't know, then you haven't
had them....<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Von Stroheim: Did you dream about it?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Porten: Someone mentioned it in a dream [she
hands the pin to Bergner] When I saw the pin just now, I membered it again. And
I had thought about it as also just another word.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">George: Once someone told me about a corpse
with a pinhead-sized wound on his neck [pause] [to Jannings] did you tell me
about that?”<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
above might also be regarded as a children's language game except that the
language routines they employ are Wittgensteinian in nature. Moreover, RIDE
plays right on the threshold between dream and waking as is evident from these
quotes and is announced at the very beginning of the play, right after the
Woman in Blackface has vacuumed up the "old theater"; and this dream
quality/ possibility/ switching back and forth further disrupts whatever firm
orientation the audience may have about the trip on to which this play takes
them.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">lacking
a strap<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">to
hang their minds on to! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Stories,
diverters from writing, from reading closely! Thomas Bernhard, famously, fled a
story as soon as he’d got its mere whiff!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Going
back<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">to
Susan Sontag's famous essay: she did not mean that as you<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">read
you necessarily would turn into a burning bush as you<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">read
Kafka, as I did <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">during
my Sophomore year in college,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
appear to have the capacity to be a sponge, also for other<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">experiences
along the line. Freshman year had been Faulkner. The text captivates you.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
had started to write in the wild and wooly way that Faulkner<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">did
in certain books. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Sontag
did not mean "just dig" as that expression<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">in
the Sixties and Seventies may still have it.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Interpretation<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">is
part of understanding, <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">reading
is deciphering, the experience<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">occurs
during the deciphering, which becomes automatic as of a certain point,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Subliminally.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">What
a whirring of brain cells<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">What
chemo-electric action<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">That
the M.I.R. detects!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
critical faculties are awake, or more or less somnolent.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> But Susan Sontag did mean a particular
eschewal of a kind of interpretation that shortcuts the deep deciphering
experience.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Her
attack was on the academy, <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
taxidermists, the neutralizers of the danger that lurks in texts.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">That
is, her attack <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">was
at a really long line<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">of
interpreters who had lost all enthusiasm,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">against
the scholar who has one shoe of Kafka's and<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">chews
on it all his life!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">She
opposed the kind of devotion that <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Hans
Georg Gadamer describes in<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Truth
and Method</span></u></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">,<u><o:p></o:p></u></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">or
think of Maimonides,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
interpretation for generations on end<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">of
religious and legal texts, <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
mice chewing them apart, infinite disputations.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Councils,
schisms, war! The bloody Supremes and their interpetations favored by obvious
discernable political interests each and every time.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Of
course it will happen to Handke, too.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
philoligisation is well underway. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">State
of Mind<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> A state of mind is something that you are
always in as long as you are alive<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">it
prevails,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">intrauterine,
too<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">you
may be conscious of it<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">or
oblivious
say because you are intensely involved<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> in… whatever.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">You
cannot account for it<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">unless
you ingest certain substances<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">to
which you then attribute<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> STATE OF MIND changes
state of mind as you wake up<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">especially
when you<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">have
been seized by a dream<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">that
has literally possessed you<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">like
another state of mind... you feel one self fading but a more familiar one
taking possession of you, your are beginning to be your “old self” again!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">You
feel that state of mind that possessed you fading,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">irretrievably<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">it
loses its hold <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">a
matter <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">that
might give you the idea that<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">now
another possesses you, but you are not conscious of being so possessed as you
were of the fading dream.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Where
has it gone? what rabbit hole is the dream tyrant hiding in?<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
then you get used to the state of mind of being awake<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">perhaps
you need coffee or tea<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">perhaps
you will be joyful at the beginning<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">of
another day<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">but
where have you been during your sleep<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">in
what realm of a consciousness<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">during
which so many thoughts were processed<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">undistracted
by the day,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Wishes
were fulfilled!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Or
punished.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
you long that all language turned into Lewis Carrol’s <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">JABBERWOCKY<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">' WAS brillig, and the slithy toves<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">All mimsy were the borogoves,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And the mome raths outgrabe.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Beware the jubjub bird, and shun<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The frumious Bandersnatch!"<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">He took his vorpal sword in hand:<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Long time the manxome foe he sought--<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">So rested he by the Tumtum tree,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And stood awhile in thought.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And, as in uffish thought he stood,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And burbled as it came!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">One, two! One, two! And through and through<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">He left it dead, and with its head<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">He went galumphing back.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Come to my arms, my beamish boy!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">O frabjous day! Calloh! Callay!"<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">He chortled in his joy.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">All mimsy were the borogoves,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And the mome raths outgrabe.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
dream feels like a baby going back into the womb, into what Freud called the
navel, whence it arose to possess us. States of mind alter while a jongleur
hypnotizes you, subliminal changes of which you are barely conscious subliminal
is what you call them and think you have done with them by having named them.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Cathartic
changes are emotionally intense, but you feel
cleansed. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Less
powerful, emotionally neutral events, it appears, based on certain film
experiences and those of the Handke plays esthetically pleasing but also
demanding concentration it turns out can have a similar cathartic effect, we
see more clearly, we feel cleansed as though we had a dream and awoke from it
refreshed. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Catharses
in the theater are supposed to be a good thing especially if experienced
communally. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
Oedipus tragedy constitutes<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">the
first scientific theater as it were.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">It
is a family tragedy<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">A
tragedy of symbolic body parts<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">It
would become Freud’s chief lens into the psyche. The only other time I had
proximate experiences than those with Handke’s Ride and Hour We knew nothing of
Each Other was at the Berliner Ensemble in 1957, with several Brecht plays,
although everything the Ensemble put on, even horrors such as Becher’s <u>Stalinschlacht</u>
[The Battle of Stalingrad] were so well done as to appear magical! From that I
conclude that Handke not only fulfills Brecht’s striving for an estranging
aware making aesthetic experience, but does so in such a way that it does not
require the immense efforts of a Berliner Ensemble, Ride & Hour do not
require the world’s greatest actors and directors to have that effect, these
two plays are inherently estranging as happenings. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
Amerian writer Edmond Caldwell discovered something similar in several Handke’s
prose texts: [FN 8] or you can go to: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">http://thechagallposition.blogspot.com/2008/10/viewer-is-diverted-or-handke-effekt.html<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Living
in the St. Monica Mountains in the late 80s, a Peppertree shedding its corns
and a huge Juniper its sap onto the tin roof of my totally bucolic loft at 1500
feet above the Pacific only half a mile away, at the end of a dirt road, with
Agave plants, I was walking ever more slowly on the dirt paths of the chaparral,
the surf pounding out the name of the place to me in Chumash: Ma-Li-Bu… a
south-facing beach on which the swells
south-sea storms were breaking, pounding the beach at long intervals.
WUM. BOOM. I read where Handke wrote that he had become “the king of slowness”
as he was writing THE REPETITION which I was reading at that time, a
memorialization with an imagined second go around of his graduation walk
through the Slovenian part of Carinthia and the Dolminen in its Carso into
Slovenia all the way to Ljubljana, its unobtrusively slow syntax entering,
syncing with my becoming a king of slowness too, a slowness amplified [!] by
reading this text.[see quote above at page 5]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Not
only is Handke a writer whose pace and touch can affect your breathing, unless
he wants to be loud, he insures a wonderful quiet in his text. Proof of that
pudding can be found in the quietest of all his books, the film/novel ABSENCE:
as that troupe wanders through the Spanish steppe, meseta I think it is,
suddenly there comes a tank. I who have familiarity with tanks since early in
life, have never heard a TANK, the essence of tank, that loud: single perfect
proof the parallel worlds of the imagination, of the as if world of the spirit,
and the world of real tanks! [Absence quote at about p.50]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Quite
aside what Handke wrote in THE REPETITION, his way of writing seemed to affect
the pace at which my heart beat, my very being, how I walked. It also was a
time of a lot of re-reading it was, and of reading in the field of
psychoanalysis. All of Freud, three times, each volume of the annual The
Psychoanalytic Studies of the Child, founded in 1947 and unread at the Malibu
library all those years! I read my way through a lot of the psychoanalytic
literature of the then nearly 100 years, following up the bibliographies as I
had once followed up the ABC of Reading’s suggestions. These certainly were
becoming unusual reading experiences as I look back at all the reading I had
done up until that point, appr. 50 years of fairly variegated reading of some
extraordinary authors and encounter with minds. However, I am as aware of the
huge gaps as much of what eyes have covered, and editing the translation of
Georg Gadamer’s Truth & Method was one of the most useful actions I have
committed to introduce puzzlement into acts of interpretation, of reading,
because each mental act that we call understanding might not be just
insufficient…<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Something about Handke, the person caught
my attention, and I continued my psychoanalytic education by following up his
“caseness” from every angle that opened up to me; and so my reading was
amplified without lessening any of the pleasures of making my reading and
hearing and listening more precise. Anyhow, so it seemed.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Ought, I perhaps, also have an “excursus” on
what is meant by the mental phenomenon that we describe with the words “clear”
“precise” when it comes to words?<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Eventually
I would conclude that his need to write so much of the time – especially during
the period during which he presented himself as the 2nd coming of Franz Kafka
- was productively related to overcoming
fear. See:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">In
a different context I had noted, much earlier, that Wim Wender’s film of
GOALIE’S ANXIETY AT THE PENALTY KICK was no equivalent for the way the text of
that book involves the reader via the legerdemain of syntax [which I happen to
have translated these dog ages ago and which has given my friend and fellow
Handke translator Scott Abbott the title for his blog where last <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">we
discussed Handke's latest novel, the 2011 DER GROSSE FALL.] Something similar
to the dichotomy between text and film of <u>Goalie</u> can be observed when
comparing the text of <u>Die Stunde Als Wir nichts von einander Wussten</u>
with a performance. Whereas the text takes the reader by the their syntax, the
very scruff of it, and never lets go, especially in German and even in this
inadequate Gitta Honegger translation: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Then another, from the other direction, the
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Then two pass each other, the same way, each
followed by a third and fourth, diagonally.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">In the background someone walks across the
open square. As he is strolling along, he continuously opens and spreads all
his fingers and at the same time slowly stretches and lifts his arms until he
has completed a full circle above the crown of his head. Then he lowers them
again at the same leisurely pace, as he ambles across the plaza. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Just
before he disappears up a street behind the square, he stirs up some wind with
his walk, fans it towards him with both hands, tilts back, his head face up,
then finally swerves off.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> When
he reappears, instantly, in exactly the same rhythm, someone else comes toward
him in the center of the square, marking, while moving, a silent beat, first
with one hand, then in harmony with the other, and by the time he turns from
the square into yet another street, his whole body has joined in, his gait,
too, has finally picked up the beat.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">and
let’s go as little of that braid as the sadistic class mate does of the braid
of the girl in front, images in succession, fabulous in many cases, remagicking
the ordinary, may possibly spell-bind you as you watch them; however, images by
themselves, do not, or no longer – do we
know whether animals have a grammar for images? – hook us in that fashion.
Image, chiffre - Chinese and Japanese writing still contain more than a
vestigial hint of the representational aspect of words. Chinese masters called
for periodic renewal of the language. There, in ideograms, image is the
signifier of what is signified… My Chumash called Ma-li-bu what they heard: Loud pounding surf. Accurate, simple,
straight forward. Perhaps “Malibu” even then had a certain enviable caché for
more desert tribes, which in this case is one mountain range further east, the
desert, the St. Maria valley! Kern County. What might a Japanese representation
of that name have been, since I don’t believe the Chumash - although I came on
the usual petroglyphs in the caves in the St. Monica preserve - had yet a
written language, but they were on their way, they, too, beseeched wales and
deer, protein. A wave like a hammer pounding a beach might be an apt
representation in a language that used such means for the symbolic. Dreams of
course still use images as a representation of what we call thoughts, a series
of images tells a story, conveys a state of mind, constitute a pun, usually
condensed, telegrams from the otherwise unconscious, the basic language
formulator, or at any event unconscious unless you start analyzing your visual
fantasies. Handke to my immense surprise wrote in dream syntax in the 1996
novel ONE DARK NIGHT I LEFT MY SILENT HOUSE. Well, he had already written in
the form of dream images, in AFTERNOON OF A WRITER in the sequence after “the
writer” has passed through the city and its gossip has injured him and he feels
like a hit and run victim, a woman wounded in a ditch.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">A
Necessary [?] Digression<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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to linking up with my initial entry into the maze of language, that huge river delta of language streams,
let me divert briefly into another kind of reading experience, of texts going dead
under your/ my eyes, texts that were alive as you were reading them going dead,
turning into what I call “dead skin,” as most journalism is and it is taken for
granted that it will be, when the music went out of the text, when it stopped
breathing, when it lost all rhythm and poetry and turned into journalism, when
you disconnected from the author. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The first time this happened to me was
around 1960 with James Baldwin's <u>Giovanni's Room</u>. I much liked Baldwin's
work, but about a third of the way through, Giovanni expired, that book went
dead, and it never came alive again. Textually it went dead. A memorable experience I had not had before.
It was a real shock. I double-checked myself. And I probably could find the
page now. I can think of only two other instances of that kind. The last was in
the bowling alley section, 3/4th of the way through of Jim Krusoe’s<u> Erased,</u>
but he recovered after a few pages and the book came alive again in its
particular mind-shifting way and its roustabout ending. I asked Jim whether he
had had a bad hair day, and he responded that he had scarcely any hair left. So
we both at least had a laugh. Something of the kind happens a few times, not as
radically, in that long slog with the greatest ending of any book I have ever read,
Handke's Crossing the Sierra del Gredos, not as radically as in Baldwin's book,
but it happens. Handke has mentioned something to the effect that if he is not
breathing right, doesn't wake up with gold on his tongue, he is a sorry
critter. [12] However, Handke - if the magic of making magic is not upon him -
is at least always a pro, a carpenter roofer who goes to work each day and lays
the timbers. But I at least feel the absence of the old magic. I have no idea
whether Handke’s first reader, Peter Hamm, or his nearly life-long editor
Raimund Fellinger notice these instances – but what could they or Handke do
even if they did? Handke works of more than 100,000 words – <u>The Repetition</u>
[1986], <u>Noman’s-Bay</u> [1993], <u>Del Gredos</u> [2003],<u> Morawian Night</u>
[2007] - each has a few faults, blemishes – and what counts for me in this
instance of pure reading that these represent breaks in the dureé, the
continuity, the screen [see anon] on which reading transpires. Also, for <u>Moravian</u>
I failed to find the ineluctable formal law that usually governs a Handke text <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2009/12/morawian-night-tough-love-for-peter_22.html
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">for
a long review which will be revised upon several further readings on
publication of the American translation.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> However, <u>Moravian</u> is unique in Handke’s
prose work for being a kind of calling card, a demonstration of just about
everything he can do: [a] great series, Handke has been doing series since the
very beginning, and these are their culmination – three of them: for the Noise
Congress; for the reasons that he beat up girl-fiend [Marie Colbin]– it is done
to the ultimate choking point where the ex-girl-fiend isn’t left the air to
voice a single objection; and a Jew’s Harp competition, apparently one of
Handke’s favorite instruments; [2] a demonstration of immense, barely contained
rage by a bus driver to the Kosovo who keeps shouting “Apache” – it would be
possible to go further here, and make the text rumble, treating words as
physical entities, something Josef Winkler or I myself might have done; [3]
marvelous wandering sections as only Handke does them; [4] nature descriptions,
say of the Morava reeds in which the houseboat is anchored; [5] an
extraordinary dramatic section set in the island Krk/ Cordular where Handke
wrote his first novel, DIE HORNISSEN in the summer of 1964, that features his
first girl fiend haunting him like the smell of rotting fish as an old accusing
drone for having abandoned her with child – Dostoyevsky cum el Greco is my
formula for the achievement; [6] a tad of futurism which has a more convincing
ring than it does elsewhere in his work – in this instance the “ex-author’s”
home village now has minarets sprouting in it; nearly all that was within my
range of experience of Handke texts, except that at one quiet entirely
unshowoffy stretch – it comes just after the tunnel section in the middle of
the book, which itself comes after a long wandering section in northwest Spain
that connects the novel’s intimate romantic theme as it is played out on board
the houseboat to a preceding series of events, I was just reading quietly along
the plain perfect laconic classical formulations…when I quaked, I realized that
it was the text mysteriously had elicited that interior quaking – and I am
someone who during his first stretch on the West Coast lived right on top of
that major fault that runs south of San Francisco, the St. Andreas I think it
is, poor Andreas to have his name used like that, and , during his second
stretch on the west coast, living in the St. Monicas Mountains stepped outside,
instinctively it seemed, whenever the birds fell quiet shortly before a tremor
ran through the region, and whom the Northridge quake of 1994 caught entirely
unawares during a midnight dream, eliciting the
bombing nightmares of my youth, an event that left me listing like a
torpedoed ship that is taking on water, for about two weeks. The small sharp
entirely interior quake that reading that section of Moravian Night elicited in
me, made me look up and check my surround – I was reading outside, in a prairie
adjacent to Lake Washington, which if “the big one” hits, as it has every few
hundred years, will liquefy. Thus the tension that the quake released inside me
was I suspect due to an excess of beauty, but an unobtrusive one subliminally
experienced. The analyst and former translator of Adorno Shierry Weber
Nicholson has a fine piece in the IJPA, trying to account for the pain that an
excess of beauty can produce. [9]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
am not interested, here, in the overall formal perfections or lack thereof of
these Handke’s works, or the satisfaction the like provide the reader, but in
the effect of certain kinds of sheer writing, in how his being exerts itself
through his syntax on the reader as it does in<u> The Repetition</u>, how his
sheer love of writing or joy manifests itself for some stretches in the second
half of <u>Der Grosse Fall</u> which Scott Abbott and I discussed in great
detail and length at his: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Bemerkenswert wieder, dass der einstige
Blickfreund einerseits bei jeder Begegnung ungestalter geworden war, anderseits
- anfangs der Schöne, behaust in der tiefsten Tiefe der Wälder - von Mal zu Mal
sich deren Rändern und damit den Ausläufersiedlungen der Megepole angenähert
hatte. Inzwischen die Ungestalt selbst, war er eine Hörweite (Sicht oder
überhaupt Sehen, das schien bei ihm auf immer vorbei) naeher an die Häuser und
Straßen gerückt, dass ihm kein Geräusch von denen daher entgehen konnte. Nicht
nur die Rasenmäher und Presslufthammer, auch die Staubsauger..."<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Just
the way the comparisons are made in time and space, the transformations within
a few words, the locations, how they become present in a reader's mind, how the
senses are employed... all in a single small ball of wax... how the obvious old
designations are avoided and new ones created: Ungestalt instead of hässlich,
Rasenmäher instead of Mähmaschine... and the way the gramatical constructions
move you around - thus I am reminded of the original title for my project: “The
dictator of syntax.” If we are its prisoners, let us take charge of the prison,
some such thought must have passed through Handke's mind on the way from KASPAR
to WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES and the turn to the classics, was implicit of course
in that demonstration. And here it is merely a case of the caterpillar of
narration moving forward with great efficiency... I can imagine no end of
writers taking pages to account just for the information that is conveyed into
the readers mind with these few words… and with such alacraty, playfully. So
this gives me a certain pleasure. But is not really what I am after either, it
does not alter my state of mind very deeply…..<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">But
look at the following, the masterly way he STITCHES past present and everything
together! I admired his weaving as the THREE ASSAYINGS culminated in that of
NO-MAN'S BAY; now, about 20 years later, the weaving has become a well-tempered
stitching on the trembling broken trunk of language! The immensity of
achievement! Of course I knew that it would come to something as unimaginable
as this when the <i>rotznasige</i> Count von
und zu Griffen wrote me around 1975 that he was now capable of everything!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"<i>Er, der Wald Tölpel, war unfähig zu
gleichwelcher Gewalttätigkeit, und hatte niemandem ein Haar gekrümmt, und war
vielleicht auch so zum Ausgestoßenen geworden. Und sein Erschrecken ueber den
da, der die Gewalt in der Menschenwelt darstellte, ging Hand in Hand mit dem
Ausdruck eine Beschwichtigenwollens. Das Erschrecken, das hilflose, und das
Beschwichtigenwollen, das ebenso hilflose, brachte beide zusammen das
Kindergesicht hervor. Da stand er und ließ sich sehen, in seinem Versuch der
Beschwichtigung halb die Hände gehoben."</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">First
of all I am reminded of Handke calling himself "schreckhaft" - as he
might well, which indeed he is as I once found out when I sent him my friend
Boris "Policeband" Pearlman, a six foot four "Latte"
dressed in Punk black and dark shades, to look him up in Paris,<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">http://artscritic.blogspot.com/
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">for
Dike Blair's and my memorialization of this punk violinist who dressed that way
and had that NY mouth because he was equally "schreckhaft"!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">This
scared, somewhat impotent "Halt's Maul/ ta geule/ shut up" forest
critter is called a "mama's boy" a page or so ago, as Handke has
started to call himself as of MORAWISCHE NACHT. Reading IMMER NOCH STURM I
realized that he was also aware that he had been/ was a "love child"
to the nth power, in GREDOS, someone like me, a careful, analytically schooled
reader could not but help be surprised by two or three mentions of "the
unconscious" -- ha ha I laughed! - those AWESOME depths, has my man
acquaintance with that realm. Here in just a few formulations I feel that our
man is as a great as any living analyst, but does not need to use what he
regards as their "dog language." <i>"Halb
die Hände hoch</i>." I nearly break out in tears at that<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"Ungegrüsst wegschauen und weitergehen,
es gab nichts zu sehen. Und zugleich wurde ihm bewusst, dass er den, der auf
der Busbank hockte und durch ihn, und nicht bloß durch ihn hier, durchstarrte,
kannte. Das wusste er in einem Nu, so klar wie nur bei einer nie und nimmer für
möglich gehaltenen Sache. Der Fremde da, im fremden Land, war einmal, in ihrer
beider gemeinsamen Land, war einmal, in ihrer beider gemeinsamen Land, sein
Nachbar gewesen, ein guter. Fast ein Freund. Ein Freund. Mit einem Ausruf zu
dem herumgefahren, mit dem Ausruf seine Vornamens: >>Andreas!<< -
der erste Name für eine Person der dem Schauspieler an jenem Tag über die
Lippen in den Sinn kam. Die Frau hieß bei ihm, seit Beginn, nur <> - was
in seiner Herkunftsgegend bei den Männern ein Ausdruck der Ehrerbietung war,
gewesen war, hatte sein können; und sein ferner Sohn war am heutigen Tag sein Sohn
gewesen, oder auch nur <>.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Keine Reaktion von dem Angerufenen.
Bestätigung dafür auf den in Frageform wiederholten Vornamen mit dem
Nachnamenzusatz, von der Mitsitzerin auf der Busbank, in einem Gemisch von
mindestens drei Sprachen. Ja, das sei er. Und es sei vorbei mit diesem Andreas.
>>Der wird nicht mehr. Sagen Sie ihm, was Sie wollen: es kommt nicht an
bei ihm. Es ist aus mit dem. Ende!<< Und im Blick auf den anderen kehrte
dem Schauspieler, in wieder so einer Sekunde, die gemeinsame Zeit zurück: durch
ihre so verschiedenartigen Berufe - nie hatte er sich als Nachbar oder Freund
seinesgleichen vorstellen können - waren sie einander näher gekommmen und gute
Nachbarn geworden, was zeitweise genausoviel zählte wie eine Freundschaft. Er
hatte sogar eine Verwandtschaft zu dem andern gespürt und die wiederum
verstärkt durch die Berufe, die nach außen hin kaum zusammen gingen....<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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THE FIRST PARAGRAPH note the directionals they are implicit but evident: in a
film or on stage you would see the pointing the closeups, hear the languages
which, here, are left to the imagination. And within that one second we are in
the past, the past is now the reader's present, closeness of the two men, that
has been interrupted by time... what a wealth of information is being conveyed
and in alacritous fashion. I am calling this the "Handke Caterpillar"
because it slows the reader down, somewhat, to be able to take in the unusual -
comparatively - amount of information that is being conveyed, playfully, but
also because a Caterpillar machine has tracks has gears, grammatical ones in
this case.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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also are certain moments such as "über die Lippen in den Sinn kam."
The awareness of the fact that "über die Lippen," although it implies
consciousness, it is such a usual phrase meanwhile that it needs to be made
clear that it also enters his noggin. Have fun Krishna Winston solving what are
huge problems in a language that has not as many hooks as German.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"Zeitnot, Notzeit: ohne es eilig zu
haben, hatte man es eilig. Oben wurde unten, recht wurde links, vorne wurde
hinten, vor schien zurück und umgekehrt, und wieder umgekehrt, und so fort
Durcheinander. Die kleinsten der Häuser unten ragten himmelhoch über ihm auf,
der Fluss strömte aufwärts, und im nächsten Moment <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">werweissswohin..." Nüchternwerden war
die Zeitnot auch endlich zu bedenken: Sie war zugleich begleitet gewesen von
einer monströsen Langeweile, und die
Langeweile war in eins gegangen mit Hektik und vor allem Unaufmerksamkeit.
In der Zeitnot war die Erde nicht nur ein fremder, sonder darüber hinaus ein
feindlicher Stern. Und seltsam wieder, dass diese Not nur auftrat an Tagen des
Müessiggangs. Aber war Müssiggehen denn nicht eine Notwendigkeit? Und so auch
die Zeitnot<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">But
it is a section such as the following that I am after in this instance of being
affected on a pure reading level, the joy of being affected by such
playfulness. There are several stretches of page-length of the pure joy that
Handke takes in writing, so it strikes me who reads joyfully, further on in the
book:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">So grüsste meinen Schauspieler, unter
anderen: eine Reiterin (jung und blond); ein patrouillierendes Polizistenpaar;
ein Läufer mit untertassengrossen Hörern über beiden Ohren; ein Priester, im
Ornat, mit Ministrant im Ministrantengewand (unterwegs durch das hohe Gras zu
einer letzten Ölung?); ein anderer Schauspieler, der im Kreuz- und Quergehen
auf de Lichtung laut seine Texte lernte; a Balkan Prostituierte, die vor der
Nacht unten in der Megapole dahier ein wenig Luft zu schöpfen versuchte, oder
sich versteckte vor ihrem Zuhälter;...<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">There
are some pages of these kinds of joyous
irruptions such as the brief section that I quote, or even more joyous
ones that really affect me, and they
affect me as music can, this is nearly jazzy writing, or as jazzy as Handke
will allow himself to become or can be [FN-10-CONROY], thus I am not surprised
that Peter Strasser, already some years ago, wrote a book about Handke’s prose
entitled <u>Freudenstoff</u> – <i>The Stuff
of Joy</i>: the joy is conveyed in the writing, no matter that, e.g. <u>Der
Grosse Fal</u>l contains some grim visions and encounters or call them
projections, but look at the discussion if you don’t have German. I then wonder
whether these outbursts of joy – of joy in writing, yet joy is joy, channel the
admitted love child’s love that he inherited, mother-imbued. Neither love nor
hate come ex nihilo, and I guess they require a responder, which happens to be
me, whose general preference is for shrieking dissonance a la the Herbie
Hancock of around 1970 at the Vanguard. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
now the section of recognition:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"Er sah den auch schon, erkannte den,
der still und hoch aufgerichtet dastand, an seinen starren Augen und,
deutlicher noch, an seinen gespannten Wangen.Und indem er ihn auf sich
übergehen ließ, merkte er, dass das da er selbstwar, sein Spiegelbild in den
schwarzen Waggonfenstern. Verwunderlich eigentlich, dass so wenige Amok liefen.
Und wenn, jäher Gedanke, einer, der Amok lief, sich zugleich opfern, jemandem
oder was retten wollte? Wäre so die Geschichte, der Film, doch darstellbar? Und
die Untergrundgesichter zeigten sich dann von solcher Phantasie seltsam
besänftigt.."<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">"He
already saw him, recognized him, standing there quietly and upright, with that
rigid look in his eyes and, more precisely, his tensed up cheeks. And by
letting him be absorbed by himself, he noticed, that that that was him himself,
his mirror image in the black windows of the metro car. It was odd, actually,
that it was so few were running amok. And if, abrupt thought, if someone who ran
amok simultaneously sacrificed himself or be acting in order to save? Would
that story, that film, still be something that could be represented? And that
fantasy then, oddly, seemed to soothe the subterranean faces ..."<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
will approach instances where the magic is upon Handke and his translator
mediums transmits it, Handke’s prose is such that he takes his prose lends his
translators elbow support, if elbows they have. But first, Handke at just his
craftsman’s best. After all, Handke was not born a classical narrator. Having
learned to weave on a small canvas Handke, subsequently wove six panels into
one large fabric:<u> My Year in the Nomans-Bay </u>[1992] and it would seem
with DER GROSSE FALL is venturing into new narrative territory once again. Like
the subsequent 2002 <u>Crossing the Sierra del Gredos</u>, this large
undertaking, too, has a merely craftsman-like, sober beginning. These are not
the spectacular openings of some of his other prose texts or plays, the Fifth Symphony
opening of the as yet untranslated PREPARATIONS FOR IMMORTALITY, of GOALIE,
most recently of DER GROSSE FALL, a lightning strike: e.g. the melodious
melancholy opening, with hints of Bob Dylan and Credence Clearwater Revial of
the 1981:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">“"Man from overseas, spectator mask over
your cheeks. You had no ear for the surge of the subterranean homesickness
dirge. Blind to the drops of blood in the snow, wanderer without shadow. Hand
among hands on bus straps you stand. Northsoutheastwest sire, but now I'm
getting mired.” <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Here
the sober opening of Crossing the Sierra del Gredos, a 350,000 word undertaking
that had the greatest ending that I and my friend the Winters-trained poet
Marty Abramson and I have ever come upon.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">“She wished this were her last journey. The
place where she had lived and worked for a long time now always offered more
than enough new experiences and adventures. The country and the region were not
the ones in which she had been born, and starting in childhood she had lived in
several altogether different lands and landscapes. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Raised by grandparents who were avid
travelers, or vagabonds, to be more precise, who seemed to change their
nationality with every border they crossed, she had pined for a while in her
youth for the long-lost land of her birth in eastern Germany, familiar to her
not from her own memories but rather from stories, and later from dreams as
well. </span></i></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">[This
quote of several thousand words continues at FN # 11]<i><o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Something
transpires in the continuous absorption of a text that remagicks the world, or
at least the world of words. However, as the concepts of experience and state
of mind have come into play, no matter that my reader may think I am being a
pain in bothering with matters all that obvious, let me, before proceeding,
also add a few other playful definitions.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Varieties
of Experiences with Handke Texts & Plays<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
started to translate Peter Handke’s early plays in the late 60s, an experience
I have memorialized here: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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will define with whatever precision I am capable of the experience of the how
these plays affect an audience and me. But before I do that I will indicate on
what linguistic musical level Handke operates: A composer starts with a single
“note” – its equivalent in writing is a syllable, even if he wakes up with a
melody in a lucky morning beak. Handke’s first play, Prophecy, 1965,
demonstrates these simple building blocks, and his life-long, ever more varied
use of the serial principle.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The stuck pick will bleed like a stuck pig.
A: The average person will behave like an average person B:The bastard will
behave like a bastard. C: The man of honor will behave like a man of honor. D:
The opera hero will behave like an opera hero. A: The heart will be heartsick.
D: The skin will be skin-deep. C: The bloodsucker will be bloodthirsty. B: The
threads will be threadbare. A: The stone will be stone-hard. ABCD: Every day
will be like every other."<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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way Handke’s first play without words but with sounds MY FOOT MY TUTOR is
written it might as well be scored as <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Ditto
for HOUR WE KNEW NOTHING OF EACH OTHER. Not plays for the flatfooted in other
words. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Handke
it turns out is a species of romantic who seeks to turn the world into music,
but does so in such a different way from 19th century – say Swinburne’s rich
bed of assonances and sibilants - attempts along that line. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
had planned a long essay, perhaps a monograph, on how Handke’s prose procedures
have changed, from the initial novel, DIE HORNISSEN, and virtuoso stories, to MORAVIAN NIGHT and DER
GROSSE FALL, but it is my hunch that unless someone pays me a few shillings,
the various stabs I have taken in that direction - all accessible via: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">-
in the long essays on NO-MAN’S BAY and CROSSING THE SIERRA DEL GREDOS and
elsewhere along the way of this fascinating project and of this essay, which is
really an off-shoot from an entirely personal Part I, this will be the extent
of it. See:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">For
the entire lecture on Handke’s dramas, from which I am quoting here.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">PROPHECY,
it turns out, does, it is a very active piece, pretty much the same thing,
playfully, as Susan Sontag would, in such a different fashion, in her Illness
as Metaphor, in exploding the misuse of false analogies, a mental habit that
will reassert itself no matter. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">After
the performance of Handke’s PUBLIC INSULT, as I now call <u>Offending the
Audience</u> [Publikumsbeschimpfung] in my translation at the Goethe House,
1969, a psychoanalyst mentioned that the audience had received an hour’s worth
of the best group therapy in making it so utterly self-conscious. Right on! The
insults at the end are the joke, the Surprise Symphony effect, the bait to get
the audience to attend the scandal, but it is the hour of being addressed,
being told everything it did, every thing that it feels and thought that
produces self-consciousness, about being addressed, about being in the
crossfire of words, about being in the world, on the world stage. In other
words, P.I. has a profound didactic and psychological impact. That constitutes
its experiential component. The experience of SELF-ACCUSATION, aside the
enjoyment of how its series work, would be of the sheer excess, to the point of
utter ridiculousness that self-berating can be taken. It makes you conscious,
consciously, or at least subliminally of that feature of the working of our
conscience. The fact that it does so playfully works to its advantage. My Foot
My Tutor, Handke’s first play of pure action but no words, demonstrates a
sado-masochistic power relationship, master slave, with all kinds of sounds –
sawing, water trickling, cutting – acquiring quite sinister associations.
QUODLIBET [As You Like It] works on the principle of auditory hallucination –
the king’s conscience it wants to catch with its ambiguities is that of the
audience’s mishearing. KASPAR works as a word torture that an audience
empathizes with - or not I suppose; it also functions as an education in the
tragedy of the prison house, the labyrinth of grammar into which Goalie puts
you, dangerously, with its first few paragraphs. Overall, these texts show us
an astonishing control over language, Handke could be a prison builder for
Josef Goebbels and his many kin I realized 25 years ago. Even then, however, he
could be entirely playful, a virtuoso, as in WELCOMING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
and as he has become again, joyfully so, in his 2011 narrative DER GROSSE FALL.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The effect of the 1970 RIDE ACROSS LAKE
CONSTANCE is very different. The play presents itself as that of actors
assuming the roles of older actors, a kind of KASPAR <i>en masse</i> on first blush, everyone wants to be “someone who was
somebody once upon a time,” and they act as if; they are young and are trying
out roles and they are grandiose! But RIDE is chiefly a language game where
sentences are handed off and queried, a kind of wild ride of associations, the
danger being that you cannot hand off a sentence, will be left without a
repartee, drop the baton and that the ice of language on which you ride
shatters and you will drown. Your mind will freeze up. As compared to the other
early Handke plays I had not the faintest how it would play or what my
experience of it would be: Handke's other early texts I knew what they would do
to an audience not only because I had translated their serial procedures but
because I had directed them and had seen Herbert Berghof direct them. Nor had I
participated in rehearsals of Ride at the Vivian Beaumont – I was more
interested in a woman and spending time with her in Woodstock. It happens. I
took Max and Marianne Frisch to the premiere as well as my woman. Max did not
care for the play at all. It seemed to make him angry. Was it the plays
implicit promiscuity, the aggressive and sinister undertone? I forgot what
Marianne’s and Cathy’s reactions were. Me, however, the performance transported
into a state of pure stasis. The 90 minute juggling act, the various, sometimes
sinister games that the half dozen actors playing actors had played – “The
drawer is stuck”, “Let the drawer be stuck.” – had the effect of cleaning all
the crap in my mind out of it. It was not a sublime experience, it was one of
pure stasis, of pure being you might say, as some of Handke’s texts, too, have
effected, a benign form of dissociation, as compared to several other painful
ones I experienced as the after effect of marijuana<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">That
is why I am trying to formulate this particular RIDE experience, which Handke
achieves once more in the summa of his early happenings - for that is what THE
HOUR WE KNEW NOTHING OF EACH OTHER is of all the former, what genius it takes
to find that solution [!]. There, in <u>Hour</u>, using nothing but images, a
succession of them, to discombobulate the inured mind into experiencing it as
something fabulous. There is something very positivistic about that kind of
experience, and it might be an instance where Adorno and Popper would find rare
agreement. Adorno prior to his death in 1969 expressed his admiration of
Handke’s work, at least to me.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> I saw that Lincoln Center production of
RIDE a few more times full length, and then only needed to go for a ten minute
"hit" as it were, homeopathic, to feel liberated during its five week
run. I couldn't account for the experience, as I might for a drug hit, and did
not experience anything like it until what is called "a good hour" in
analysis. The experience of stasis was produced by the sheer playfulness of the
illogicality, or new, inverted kind of logic, of what transpired on stage, that
might also be called an utter anti-boulevard boulevard play. Richard Gilman
pointing out that Handke in RIDE used Wittgensteinian querying of language does
not really help, and Dick wrote his piece without having seen the performance.
Handke might have used inverted legal procedures, the resulting absurdity does
the trick of being utterly liberating, of wiping the slate clean. Is it the
liberation from the querying that existentially is always with us? Of the
inured logic of our daily lives? Perhaps so, if we take Handke’s great The Art
of Asking as the answer to that questions as to “when and wherefore and why”
not being the questions to posed. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> <i>»In uns
die Fragezeichen sind heutzutage krank. Können keine richtigen Fragen mehr
bilden. Sind deshalb in unseren Köpfen ausgebrochen als die Pein des Geredes.
Welches jede Frage erstickt. Welches die Herzen auffrisst. Welches mit uns
aufräumen wird, wenn wir, statt von der Wunde abzulenken, ihr nicht auf den
Grund zu gehen versuchen.«</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Not
that I would say that Handke has sought out the ground of his wound, rather he
avoids facing it, even avoids it in his 2011 play FOREVER STORM, a ¾
biographically based drama of Austro-Slovenian resistance to Nazism <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> http://handke-drama.blogspot.com/2011/08/handke-immmer-noch-sturm-still-storm.html<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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BEIHNAHE ALLER REZENSIONEN/ REVIEWS<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">for
an extensive discussion, background material and reviews]. What he avoids is
the fact that his mother was married to a German soldier, thus avoiding the
littoral, the frontera, the middle ground! where such mingling is normal, and
the very ground on which conflict, the ambivalence becomes fraught with
tensions – my guess is that the mere idea of his gruesome stepfather having
been married to his mother is too much too bear, too painful; however, the
avoidance leaves a gap in the play which turns a bit agitprop towards the end,
otherwise Shakepearean. [I myself am someone who once in his life slithered on
answers for years on end as though they were nubile breasts and who once worked
on sub-atomic particles with a <u>Quark</u> - Nonsense, requeson - specialist!]
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> <u>Ride’s</u> closest affinity would be
Ionesco’s absurdities, but that is a first hand, a superficial affinity only.
Ionesco’s <u>Cantrarice Chauve & La Leco</u>n do not perform a catharsis,
which is what <u>Ride</u> and <u>Hour</u> do, which are not absurd in the
least. The “cleaning of your clock” which these plays achieve is not performed
by purely aesthetic means, although you are sensitized to aethetic experience
subsequently, but in the instance of <u>Ride</u> by means of a counter-logic to
the everyday logic, that is to an inversion, which is you experience it for a
certain length of time, that is both duree and some variation are are required
within a musically arranged space time; and in the instance of <u>Hour</u> by
means of a continuous variation of images on a stage in the same bright light!
The audience undergoes a voluntary entrancing, and if you are entranced a number
of matters occur intra-psychically of which you are quite unaware. I happen to
think that nonetheless Handke’s theater is part of the enlightenment, but it is
right at the edge; for unfortunately, the spectacular spectacles that the
Disneys and Dreamworks of this world put on the multiplexes also have a kind of
clock-cleaning effect, but scarcely an enlightening one.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Pure
playfulness is not absurd. The effect of THE HOUR WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT EACH
OTHER is the same. Clean, reborn. With the effect of Handke's texts on his
readers’ state of mind, these qualities need to be a major aspect of reviewing
his ever more artful and emotionally deeper works. Playfulness, musicality –
are there reviewers, critics around who can actually do that job?<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Handke’s
plays – <u>Ride, Hour</u> - do not play on an undifferentiated continuum, they
have a movement: see the quote above at about p.30] And note that Handke’s
procedure differs rally not one iota from the musical scoring for MY FOOT MY
TUTOR [above]: each has that moment - the party moment, when a party has its
high-point, nearly every party has it, and it is entirely unpredictable but for
the fact that is hasn’t been a party if there has not been a memorable
high-point. One reviewer in Chicago got it right, and wrote: "Just
describe the experience." Not that easy is it? Much easier to dish out
impressionistic mumbling or, by default, Barnes and Nightingale respectively
for the NY Times straddle the fence and admit that they don’t get it: they
don’t get it because their minds are so primed for their range of what
constitutes a theatrical experience: ditto for the great majority of reviewers
of Handke’s prose. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">It
is there that Handke's work intersects with "happenings" and with
Susan Sontag's AGAINST INTERPRETATION and with McLuhan’s notion about medium,
yet at such a concrete artistic level, but the experience, say of Handke
providing what Peter Strasser called "FREUDENSTOFF" [the stuff of
joy], can be detailed in this instance, at least I think I can and I hope I
have detailed the different magical experiences to be had with some of Handke’s
texts, and with a few further instances to come,and mysticism and mystical
experiences are my last resort, as it is of the great physicists with one of
whom, a Quark specialist, I once worked so intensely that the little beasties,
Charmers all, Muons Glouns, Mesons, Bosons, don’t say that physicists don’t
have a sense of humor about the <i>requeson</i>
the world is made of, entered my dreams, and whether I stand on any kind of
solid ground I suppose depends on whether I also imbibed Higgs’ Boson during
that intellectual adventure. At any event, though there may have been a limit
on what was called “Kraft durch Freude”, there is no disputing that some of
Handke’s texts can put his readers into a joyful state, as of about his “Slow
Homecoming Period” but especially in instances of the kinds of monstrums he
once claimed he would never write, not wanting these albatrosses to weigh him
down, I am talking about <u>My Year in the No-Man’s-Bay</u> and <u>Crossing the
Sierra del Gredos,</u> <u>Morawian Night</u> and <u>Der Grosse Fall</u>.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">There
are few people in the world who love an answer to a question more than I do, no
matter how difficult the algorithm [s], and in that respect, as a rationalist,
I am evidently the very opposite of the aspect of Peter Handke who admits to a
tendency to denial, to beautifying the world, manicuring his injured
self-image, although I respond very nicely to his remagicking, which seems to
require the ability on his part to have learned his craft from the masters, and
constitutes a very different form of “magic realism” than what those words
usually refer to, although I certainly respond powerfully to the master of that
craft as well, Gabriel Marquez.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">But
I also like the state of mind - not just the state of mind: the innocence of no
answer and no querying and of admitting the possibility that each answer might
also be the wrong one, misformulated. Or that there are no answers at all! “Let
the drawer be stuck.” That is why I like Handke’s <u>The Art of Asking</u>, not
just for its poetry and marvelous characters, its metaphoric stage. No whys
wheres whens or wherefores, the mind is quieted, no internal dialogue of any
kind!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">No
matter the extraordinary experiences that Handke’s plays can be for an audience,
translating them was just a lot of verbal fun that involved little emotional
investment. See:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">for
an account. I was not all that surprised that for the insults at the end of <u>Publikumsbeschimpfung</u>,
Handke, too, as I read recently, had made long lists and put them up on a
clipboard beside his type-writer. The translations of <u>Innerworld</u> – I am
trying to think if emotion came into play. Perhaps at moments, say in <i>Singular & Plural</i> [Die Einzahl und
die Mehrzahl] which I analyzed much later and found to be an example of a piece
of writing in which I at least can see Handke overcoming anxiety through the
act of writing, this is the period that he felt he was the second coming of
Kafka, and DER HAUSIERER is the largest scale example of this, but so is the
translated RADIO PLAY I: See:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Otherwise,
the translation work was a question of finding a way of duplicating these texts
in American. I did not feel I succeeded with all of them at the time of
publication of the book, so some were only completed afterward and only
appeared in various magazines. I still find <u>Innnerworld</u> utterly
delightful: but I can’t say I appreciated the depth of Handke’s “innerworld of
the outerworld of the innerworld” procedure until much later. <u>Goalie’s
Anxiety at the Penalty Kick</u>, too, involves little emotional empathy, but
that, since translating is a sentence by sentence problem solving, merely
involved linguistic and aesthetic judgments. I did not reflect until much later
on what kind of person that might be who conceived of such a story and why.
With the three long poems in <u>Nonsense and Happiness</u> emotions, stormy
feelings flooded into play, and I welcomed it when they became “musical” as it
says at one point in work that becomes deeply personal.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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I read the Handke texts subsequent to <u>Goalie’s Anxiety</u>, the books of his
critical first Paris period, <u>A Moment of True Feeling, Weight of the World,
Left-Handed Woman</u> I noticed that these texts seemed to induce depression
which the end of these books then seemed to lift, I noticed but did not give,
probably also lacked time at the time, to delve more deeply aside from noting
the why and wherefores of what I had noted. Meanwhile I have given a lot of thought
why Handke, at least initially, was of a depressive disposition, and during
that panicky Paris time he had ample reason to be depressed, quite aside the
fundamental disposition. The “Weight of the World” indeed.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">I
recall novelist Jim Krusoe telling me of having a similar experience with these
texts, that was in the late 80s, on the West Coast. But the first really major
experience with a Handke text – right, I had had these amazing experiences with
some of the plays - was with the title novel of the triptych that is published
in the United States as<u> A Slow Homecomig:</u> and its opening, the Alaska
chapter. I try to account for this by telling myself that although I had spent
nine months in the interior, as a forest fire fighter and as a geological
surveyor’s assistant and have dozens of anecdotes of that experience, the
totality of that experience remained inarticulatable. But something in me,
evidently pre-conscious, that is dimly, had been seeking such articulation. I
recall walking with Handke across the Brooklyn Bridge on a night that a light
snow was falling as he was about to write that chapter in the Hotel Adams at
86th Street and Fifth Avenue. Idyllic as hell of course. But the mother hen in
me became worried on hearing that after just a few visits of a few weeks each
he was going to write about Alaska, the immensity of that. Yes, he had at least
read John McPhee’s big book about that region I was relieved to hear. The
immensity of it – when I finally read that chapter about two years later, in
Vienna, on my way back from a hard-working month in Bulgaria, and on my way to
visit Handke in Salzburg, it really hit me, the expression “bowled over” fits
for once, that in one chapter he had articulated its immensity, in part by
being very sparing in his naming. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">A
SLOW HOMECOMING<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Sorger had outlived several of those who had
become close to him; he had ceased to long for anything, but often felt a
selfless love of existence and at times a need for salvation so palpable that
it weighed on his eyelids. Capable of a tranquil harmony, a serene strength
that could transfer itself to others, yet too easily wounded by the power of
facts, he knew desolation, wanted responsibility, and was imbued with the
search for forms, the way to differentiate and describe them, and not only out
of doors [“in the field”], where this sometime tormenting and often gratifying
and at its best triumphant activity was his profession.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> <i>At the end of the working day, in the light-gray gabled wooden house at
the edge of the mainly Indian settlement in the Far North of the other
continent, which for some months had been serving him and his colleague Lauffer
as both laboratory and dwelling, he slipped the protective on the microscopes
and binoculars he had been using alternately and his face still distorted by
the frequent changes from short view to long view and back, peered through the
episodic space created by the sunset light and the hovering wooly-white seeds
of the dwarf poplars, an after-work corridor, as it were to “his” bench.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Thus,
reviewers of Handke’s prose texts, too, might want to articulate the
experience, preferably without resorting to their pitiably small repertoire of
impressionistic adjectives, all those who suffer from adjectivitis; they might
describe his growing artfulness, how his texts dance, calm. Of his texts, the
sheer writerliness and the machinery of a text as we find it in, say <u>Don
Juan [as told by himself]</u> or in his latest novel <u>Der Grosse Fall</u>
see:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> http://goaliesanxiety.blogspot.com/2011/07/peter-handkes-latest-novel.html<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">for
a long discussion of that also tantalizing conundrum with many fine insights
from Scott Abbott.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Subsequent to the utterly astonishing
experience I had with A Slow Homecoming, which I suspect requires acquaintance
with Alaska, came the major experience of translating, for voice, of Handke’s
WALK ABOUT THE VILLAGES during the heights and depths of psychoanalysis, at a
moment of complete regression: all defenses were down. I have written up that
experience, too, at the above translation site. That work exhausted every
aspect. What a totality it was! Which left me as a verbal husk, palpitating for
oxygen! Completely re-sensitized, and in the brutality of New York City. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Although
there exist no end of books where a recounting of the action, the story does
the trick, it does not do for texts that translate the innerworld into the
outerworld into the innerworld of the reader, something I realized long before
I became acquainted with Handke’s work, in the instance of Virginia Woolf’s <u>The
Waves</u> especially not in an instance such as GOALIE, where syntax and
grammar involve a reader's consciousness. Phenomenology evokes, but that is all
it does, it does not have a hammer-lock
on the mind unless it be wielded by a great poet, a great imagistic poet,
Pound, Transtroemer, Ponge. Li Po and Handke as he makes his peace with and
masters the available tools. “In the gloom gold gathers the light.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The interaction between reader and text - that
is what I propose to do using my reading experience with NO MANS BAY &
SIERRA DEL GREDOS, and Bertram Lewin's concept of the dream screen, a procedure
that also allows me to examine the filmic element in Handke’s work.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> That experience is most strikingly overt in
the screenplay novel ABSENCE, a book that I for my part experienced also as a
film as I read it, a rather spooky experience it was too, since I had no idea
that Handke also meant to make a film of the book and had also written it as a
screenplay. The becoming conscious of the subliminal was what spooked me. My
experience of ABSENCE was something like an Antonioni film as I read of the
wandering of that odd group of people, Handke’s taking up the Parsifal theme. I
had read quite a few screenplays by the time I read ABSENCE and written a few
myself, but none of the screenplays I read, although they allowed me to imagine
a film, also were experienced as a film as I read them, induced that
experience. However, since the book ABSENCE is a book and not a film, the
spooky experience of it being a film created the freshening synesthetic effect, a sine qua non for works of art to be
experienced as authentic and sense-freshening. Synesthesia is a neurologically
based condition in which stimulation of one sensory or cognitive pathway leads
to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway
and is a major feature of all of Handke’s work.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">“Late one Sunday afternoon the statues on the
city squares are casting long shadows and the humped asphalt of the deserted
suburban streets is giving off a bronze glow. The only sounds from inside the
café are the hum of the ventilator and an intermittent clatter. A glance goes
up to the branches of a plane tree, as if someone were standing under it,
watching the countless incessantly swinging seedpods, the large-lobed,
long-stemmed leaves, which move spasmodically, all together, like a semaphore,
and the swaying deep-yellow nests of sunlight in the foliage; where the blotchy
trunk forks there is a hollow that might be home of some animal. Another glance
goes down to a fast-flowing river, which, as seen from the bank, the sun shines
through to the bottom, revealing a long fish, light-gray like the pebbles
rolling in the current below it. At the same time, the rays of the sun reach
the wall of a basement room, filling the entire pictureless surface and giving
he whitewash a grainy look. The room is neither abandoned nor uninhabited; it
is populated, always at eye level, by the silhouette of flying birds and, at
intervals, of passersby on the road, for the most part bicyclists. Likewise, at
eye level, a lone Far Eastern Mountain appears on the horizon, lit by the last
rays of the sun. The picture comes closer, bringing into prominence at its
rounded upper edge the precipitous summit which, with its crags and chimneys,
ledges and glassy walls, suggests an impregnable and inaccessible castle. The
sun has set; here and there a light in a house; on the blank wall of the
basement room the reflection of the yellow sky is traversed by patterns that
have now lost their outlines. The wall is now so totally blank….<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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THE DREAM SCREEN<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">1<i>] It was Bertram D. Lewin, in his article
"Sleep, the Mouth and the Dream Screen," who proposed calling upon
"an old familiar conception of Freud's —the oral libido— to elucidate
certain manifestations associated with sleep" (1946, p. 419)."The
dream screen, as I define it," wrote Lewin, "is the surface on which
a dream appears to be projected. It is the blank background, present in the
dream though not necessarily seen, and the visually perceived action of
ordinary manifest dream contents takes place on it or before it. Theoretically
it may be part of the latent or the manifest content, but this distinction is
academic. The dream screen is not often noted or mentioned by the analytic
patient, and in the practical business of dream interpretation, the analyst is
not concerned with it" (p. 420).<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">In developing his argument Lewin referred to
the Isakower phenomenon, recalling that psychoanalyst Otto "Isakower
interprets the large masses, that approach beginning sleepers, as breasts"
(p. 421). Lewin expanded on this insight as follows: "When one falls
asleep, the breast is taken into one's perceptual world: it flattens out or
approaches flatness, and when one wakes up it disappears, reversing the events
of its entrance. A dream appears to be projected on this flattened breast—the
dream screen—provided, that is, that the dream is visual; for if there is no
visual content the dream screen would be blank, and the manifest content would
consist solely of impressions from other fields of perception" (p. 421).
At the end of his article, Lewin offered this summary: "The baby's first
sleep is without visual dream content. It follows oral satiety. Later
hypnagogic events preceding sleep represent an incorporation of the breast
(Isakower), those that follow occasionally may show the breast departing. The
breast is represented in sleep by the dream screen. The dream screen also
represents the fulfillment of the wish to sleep" (p. 433). Today, over and
above the attempt to link sleep and oral libido, the notion of the dream screen
should no doubt be viewed in conjunction with the idea of the introjection of
"containers," and with Didier Anzieu's discussion of the "skin
ego," with his concepts of the skin as a "projective" or
"writing surface" (1985, p. 40), and even with his view of the
dream's function as a film or pellicle [a thin layer supporting the cell
membrane in various protozoa]. At all events, the dream screen is an aspect of
the dream-work which operates as a "non-process," and which as such
calls for no specific interpretation.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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GOLSE<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">See
also: Cinema and psychoanalysis; Dream; Dream work; Isakower phenomenon,
Negative hallucination; Skin-ego; Sleep/wakefulness.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Among
the many interesting notions here I want to emphasize that the dream screen
fuses with the mother’s face as the suckling pig reveries and that the
dream-screen is "non-process" - that is, it does not appear to be
changed or change as the movie house projection house screen is not by what is
projected on to it; except during those extraordinary events that bear the name
“the blank dream”, which occur at momentous moments in one’s emotional life: a
blank dream ends in a tabular rasa, a new canvas, a new breast! These phenomena
are not solely interesting for my suggestion that Handke, when he is writing
well, dream breathes his texts, that is, he is in something akin to a
paradisiacal state that he was in as a love child, what he calls a “threshold”
state [see FN], and I further suggest that being the love child of a beautiful
mother whose face you absorb as you project your self onto her breast as a
beloved nursing baby focusses and delimits your aesthetic perceptions forever
after, and even more so I expect in an instance such as Handke’s who is endowed
with not only qualitatively but also quantitatively - the combination of the
two is what counts – higher degree of perception in each and every sense – thus
his nauseas: nausea is a defense against excess; thus his problematics with
loud and unpleasant sounds, which becomes a <i>sujet</i>
of his, especially in <u>Moravian Night</u>; written proof of Handke’s simply
seeing more – and being able to record it verbally is clearest perhaps in that
5,000 word section at the beginning of Crossing the Sierra del Gredos that
describes the aftermath of the hurricane that struck Northern France around the
year 2000: think of it this way: would you notice as intritaley as a matter of
course as does Handke’s surrogate, the ex-Bankieress?? As affectionately,
possibly; as delicately? As precisely yet without becoming pedantic as a
botanist might.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">We
also project our fantasies, which are more susceptible to analysis than dreams,
onto the same dream screen from which the dream content has just sunk irretrievably,
but for the flotsam of associations, back into the deep. So it seems, we cannot
say with absolute certainty that under the influence of something as powerful
as a different state of mind-event such as a dream, the dream screen is not
changed, altered, influenced, stands in a subtle relationship with the visual
part and the impulse of the dream. We also hear voices in dreams - out aural
capacity is intact. Other sensations, smells, taste, skin sensations are
normal. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">What
I am going to suggest, first of all, is a very simple equivalent between dream
screen + movie screen + computer screen - sheer magic for someone who learned
to read on a magic wax writing pad - as we find out that Freud did, too,
from his great paper on the Event on the
Acropolis <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">+
the screen of a white page with a particular kind of writing on it + the breast
on which we first started to project and fantasize and revery, that can
entrance us so that what is written accesses, subliminally, an inbetween state,
not as powerful as when we are seized by a dream, nor as powerful when our
dream screen and the movie projection screen
merge, or merges automatically as soon as we subject ourselves to that
medium, but more subtly since the information comes in the form of sentences,
of sequences of over-all pleasing, fascinating information, in no end of
rapidly discerned information ordered by syntax that obeys certain learned
requirements and demands, parameters. For this state – a state of reverie -
that corresponds to the “inbetween” state that Handke claims to be the one that
nourishes him [12] - to be achieved in
reading we of course require more than just the white page, the subliminal
residue of the breast; other restraints, parameters are needed. Handke himself
has some wonderful passages on "reading", especially in MORAWISCHE
NACHT… For such a state to be evoked while reading requires continuity, dureé,
a fairly even subtext, for a certain sleepiness to set in while you are
entranced, then the subliminal will take its effect, it is a fairly subtle
effect… you can determine it by noting the difference in reading experience:
does your daily paper ever put you in such a state? - the sheer writing takes
over… the lyrical epic… <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> If we did not have a screen for our dreams to
be projected onto the dreams would need to be expressed entirely aurally, as
they do express themselves vocally and with sounds as well. If we did not have
a dream screen film images would not be such powerful experience, at least
initially – that familiarity breeds boredom and contempt, and that the overly
familiar, the ever same, can do so to the point of disgust, that we know about.
But has anyone ever tired of a dream, unless it be an obsessive dream that is
dreamt every night for years on end? I have read of the rare cases where
recurrent dreams are repeated attempts to master trauma. Otherwise, the dream
mine provides fresh visual images every time we dream. If we are entranced, if
images on a film screen are so powerful because they enter our being on the
same dream screen on which we experience our dreams, I imagine, no I actually
am quite certain that I at least in my reading of certain Handke texts on a
page, a white page, subliminally enter the dream screen mode – but for that to
happen, for that experience to occur the above cited parameters are required,
also the critical dogs need to be tame! I would guess that Handke even writes
on the dream-screen, since that was his own paradisiacal state, and that his writing
now that he exults in it as he does in DER GROSSE FALL, he shares this entirely
irrational joy with us, which is why this essay is dedicated to Maria Sivec,
Handke’s mother, whose ultra-love child the little bastard was exclusively for
9 months intra-uterine and the subsequent next two years; that is, it is
dedicated to the extreme of narcissism, “mother love,” an essential for
survival.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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to the now described different experiences that the different Handke plays,
especially <u>The Ride Across Lake Constance</u>, had provided and of that of <u>A
Slow Homecoming</u> and of <u>The Repetition</u>, the next was that of his 1993
<u>My Year in the No-Man’s Bay. <o:p></o:p></u></span></b></div>
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five times, and always at the same place, a donut shop on NE 45th Street here
in Seattle that clean and well neon-lighted as it was, was frequented by the
down-and-out. That shop, between Roosevelt and 11th Avenue, next to a gas
station, opposite a now defunct credit-union drive-by, was run by an expatriate
Hmong by the unlikely name of Lola. It was in Hemingway’s famous phrase, a
clean well-lighter [neon] 20 by 20 foot joint, that had splendid donuts that
Lola’s machinery churned out in the back room, another 20 by 20, and her shop
was frequented by as fine a sedentary crew of down and outs as you can have in
Seattle: the other patrons of her excellent donuts, bought them and went right
back out again. As excellent as the donuts and also the coffee and as clean as
the place, its habitués however were anything but. It was the motley. The
motley for some reason got together there, perhaps simply because Lola did not
kick them out, tolerated them, although I do not recall anything motherly about
her, she had the émigré Asian matter of factness of those who speak the
language as though it were a set of awkward tools, a set of cudgels.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The
toothless cabbie; Ben, a tall dark haired and wooly bearded Persian, who gave
every appearance of being Smerdyakov, had suffered a breakdown as an architect
and held a bowl of his darling goldfish, and had more bowls of that kind at his
nearby home, a frighteningly gentle man; then a sturdy fellow always sun-burnt
tanned fellow who obviously lived year round in the great outdoors, with a
sound back-pack, the only one who was missing was our local apparition from the
Yugoslav wars whom years later I saw trudging past my domicile by the prairie,
a big fellow, carrying his bed roll, he evidently slept somewhere nearby, in
the favorable bushes, wouldn’t tell you where he was from, “I am from Seattle”
in the heaviest possible Slavic accent! Couldn’t buy him a cup of coffee. But
there were others like him, to create a panoply, a full complement of the down-and-outs,
including me who walked his half mile from 16<sup>th</sup> Ave and 50<sup>th</sup>
Street just to read <u>No-Man’s Bay</u>
over and over, and to be in the state of mind the book put me in, first in
German, then in Krishna Winston’s translation, and evidently it seemed the
right place to read that book, and the time spent reading <u>No-Man’s Bay</u>
at Lola’s was one of the happiest stretches not just of my time in Seattle, but
of my entire life. And I didn’t care for the person Handke at all any more, at
that time, not one bit, had the most valid reasons to regurgitate him, and have
had a few other impulses along that line since. However, be it that I am split:
the experience of reading such a great carpet weavers work, it made me deeply
happy. And then you come on a review by that nerd Lee Siegel in the New York
Times Book Review, or that hired shit J.L. Marcus in the NYRB. At least there
was William Gass in the Los Angeles Times Book Review. See:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2010/07/catastrophic-handke-reception-in-united.html">http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/2010/07/catastrophic-handke-reception-in-united.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">and
other pieces on the handke.discussion and revista=of-reviews. Blogs. You could
say that <u>No-Man’s-Bay </u>is a self-obsessed book, as you can say about most
of Handke’s fiction, however the artistry with which he weaves the six sides of
his being an artist consigns such an objection to irrelevance. Nor had I
anticipated that the book might make me feel like that. Each time out, Handke was different. I
probably would have objected if he had repeated <u>The Repetition</u> or what
he did in one of the other narratives. On the other hand, Handke’s then just
preceding two works, <u>the Essay on the Juke Box</u> and <u>On the day that
went Well</u> had prepared me that his time as a weaver was upon us. Not that I
did not and continue to quibble with certain matters in<u> No-Man’s-Bay</u>
such as his making fun of himself, in all his self-referentiality, of the tough
time he had had in the Hotel Adams while writing <u>A Slow Homecoming </u>and
that business of the Germanies at war with each other – perhaps with the very
preposition that the book was set in a future decade. If one knows Handke’s
actual life one also could object, say, to the opening that refers to a “metamorphosis”
that the lead character, the same Keuschnig of A MOMENT OF TRUE FEELING recalls:
but if I were to comment on that, the whys and wherefores of that metamorphosis
I would be going outside the “reading experience.” [13-a-The Opening of <u>No-Man’s-Bay</u>;
13-b- the opening of <u>Across.</u>]<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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The first title I read entirely in American that left an impression – I was familiar with the kinds of American
magazines that G.I.s stationed in Germany read in the late 1940s, Look, Life,
Time, was Americanizing myself well before I set out on my journey – was during
my trip as a 12 year old on the U.S.S. Maurice Rose, from Bremerhaven to the
Brooklyn Port of Em-and-Disembarkation, was Frank Bunker Gilbreth and Lillian
Moller Gilbreth’s Cheaper by the Dozen,
where the authors’ names are far out-weighed by that of their comedic
masterpiece, and if I’d been smart I’d not have gotten off the boat but sailed
right back to Bremerhaven, and sought refuge from the murderous country I was
leaving, less impulsively, at an elsewhere. Behold the American family in
action and avert your gaze, shutter your ears! Then, in quick order, Hersey’s A
Bell for Adano [which was perceived as most informative on the war that I seemed
to have been part of as a child], The Brave Bulls [that linked the American
Southwest with Karl May induced fantasies of it] lots of Somerset Maugham, Of
Human Bondage made a big impressions. My first American flue became memorable
for reading and laughing myself well with the entirety, really, I mean all of
P.G. Wodehouse, mother-plied from the West Orange public library. How did she
or my stepfather know? Ever since I have been unable to read Wodehouse without
falling ill; which is sort of like being unable to go to Vienna where I had a
cyst, in fact an infected vestigial gill, removed at age 5, a trauma I feared
to revisit. A bit hysterical, somewhat homeopathic?<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Shakespeare, since for a step-father I had
a Shakespeare nut, one nuttiness of his for which I am forever grateful.
Careening in his 2nd car, a Crosley, through the small development, with Dick
reciting the great monologue at the top of his lungs. My father’s gift of all
of Shakespeare in one volume, printed on rice paper, bound in dark blue
leather.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> West Orange meant fairly
voracious reading since in every other respect it proved to be a forever
traumatizing disappointment for someone with entirely the wrong ideas of what
the United States held in store. Oakwood, the preparatory Quaker School I
attended salvagingly during my subsequent two American Junior and Senior High
School Years, proved to be a small idyllic reservation that thus gave you the
entirely wrong idea, looking down at the I.B.M. plant just south of
Poughkeepsie. That plant’s deep red huge I.B.M. in the dark of night burned
itself into I am quite positive not only into my forever memory, and suddenly
you were blessed: from sheer mediocre 50s West Orange suburbia – not wealthy
South Orange mind you nor adjacent Montclair, not Philip Roth’s Jewish and
Black East Orange - Oakwood, a darling
Quaker School in Poughkeepsie, as I have mentioned, which I attended as of my
Junior year, had, first, another nut case, for an English teacher, Terry
Matern, who suffered bravely [and reddishly] from Coral fever contracted as a
Navy Diver during WW II in the Pacific, but whose love of Whitman introduced me
to those long lines and a peculiarly grandiose ego, one of the grandest ego’s
ever, it embraced a continent, and hooked into my then pantheism. Really really
lucky I got Senior year with Yoshira Sonbanmatsu, a Nisei, who taught the kind
of course that the subsequent Haverford introductory humanities 101-102 could
barely equal: Samuel Butler, Gide, Camus, Ibsen, the Greek Tragedies, other various
Russians, Joyce – by the time I graduated with Eleanore Roosevelt delivering
the graduation benediction, I could recite <i>Anna
Livia Plurabella</i>, a confirmed Joycean, although the full oomph of
Finnegan’s Wake – and what an omphalos oomph it is! - did not hit me until I
did an analysis in my 40s. Oh how those puns speak when repression has been
lifted! The Indo-European linguistic unconscious how it begins to speak! How
repression stupefies! No more need for
trots! I had learned to speak in brogue, this adjuster of his accent, could.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Visiting my father, who
appeared in Montreal from Ethiopia in 1954, I read all of Shaw, I had already
read all of O’Casey and Synge – I was becoming a reader of everything of an
author if we were kindred. But the biggest impression left no doubt was by
Portrait of an Artist. You knew Joyce’s life and Dublin better than your own
surround and yourself, and that seemed perfectly normal! The Pope’s Nose and
American Thanksgivings! What was the difference between a turkey’s and a
goose’s ass? And Daedalus’s code – the conscience of the race - joined the code
that you seemed to have been forged in you or that you discovered in yourself
via Marcus Aurelius and Laotse. The militant and the stoic with a tad of a
Prussian twist and the rural tao via Loa Tse. The sense of the absurd derived
elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> You noticed classmates
being deeply affected by books. Lovely Kay entered the world of Thomas Wolfe’s
You Can’t go Home Again, your roommate Kurt Anschel - kis parents who had
fought on the Republican side in Spain - swore by Farrel’s Studs Lonigan, John
Bernstein fell for Camus hook line and sinker. Kahlil Gibran had a big
following on the distaff side, and that was worrisome; love, and excess
thereof, as so much else, softens the brain! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The segue to Haverford
introductory humanity course via much reading as a camp counselor during summer
stints in the Poconos at Lake Wallenpaupack was marked not just by my own
reading events but by the observation that Son’s and Lovers, which helped make
me a Lawrence reader, had the most upsettingly explosive effect on a certain
roly-poly fellow class mate: the incest theme, for me a matter of course,
turned the little Irishman apoplectic! By sophomore year I and friend Frank
Conroy, for our disappointment in a teacher of Greek and its literature, and
the sense that the girls at Bryn Mawr were more interested in literature than
our pre-med and business compadres, switched to a writing course taught – the
year is 1955 mind you – by a woman whose claim to fame was as contributor to
Reader’s Digest. There, my championing of Faulkner’s A Rose for Emily drew the
obviously memorable response from one chunky girl, D. McNab-Brown, that “you
have to be queer to like that story.” Not feeling queer and not wanting to be,
I gave the story further thought, and concluded that in some sense I had become
necrophiliac early on in life, which is why Walter Benjamin’s formula - what an
event Walter Benjamin continues to be - that “a work of art is the death mask
of the experience” has always struck me as a true measure of the authenticity,
the truth content of works that make such heavy truth claims. But I think if
was E.M. Forster’s Passage to India and his story The Celestial Omnibus that
left an indelible marker, and I have never been able to finish Howard’s End. No
end of American literature was sucked up during those years, eyes as vacuum
cleaners. Winesburg Ohio!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> As
I mentioned in Part I, little of what was being written and published
contemporaneously penetrated our school horizons, but for the work of Bill
Styron’s Lie Down in Darkness, and Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man, I recall
Conroy much disliking one particular British author’s novel, it was the time of
the first book clubs and they supplied a wealth of collected poems. The
disconnect from what was then contemporary changed radically on the West Coast,
and is due initially entirely to Kepler’s Bookshop and my - also in happier
hunting grounds - friend Gus Blaisdell. Terry Southern, Richard Yates, Chester
Himes. City Lights in San Francisco. I believe I have failed to mention that
thinking of what adventures to pursue subsequent to my nine months in Alaska as
a firefighter and assistant geological surveyor I seemed to have been seized by
Pound’s ABC OF READING, one of my major teachers most of whose nooks and
crannies I had explored, to go to New York and start a magazine, as I then
actually did with a few people, Michael Lebeck and Fred Jameson, funded by
Lebeck’s Hillsboro Press until Michael from one day to the next, so it
appeared, joined a Sufi sect, and me unable to find a second source: however,
by that time, on the West Coast I had become well apprised of the variety of
American poetry that was bubbling forth; and of what is called “modernism.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">As
I have mentioned, graduate school in Germanics was entirely de-coupled from
then contemporary German literature, but becoming its reader for a variety of
American publishers in New York created a bridge to what might have been
another life. Within quite short order Peter Weiss’s Leave-Taking, Uwe
Johnson’s Speculations about Jakob, The Third Book about Achim, Two Views,
Günter Grass’s The Tin Drum, Cat & Mouse became hugely important, as did
quite a few European writers, too many to name. But I was beginning to swim in the
midst. I had been fortunate to branch out and take a course in the French 18th
Century novel, and had read just about everything, during my Junior year in
Berlin, that my other great teacher, Georgy Lukacs, via his 20 ? volume blue
Aufbau edition, had written about there. Nonetheless, there were huge gaps,
many of which have never been filled, in the classics and other European
literatures. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> On returning from that year
- 1964 – I spent in Europe I moved into a shoebox sized room in the Chelsea
Hotel and found a huge drawer beneath its window seat filled with a wonderful
collection of 18th century British literature… from the New York Public
Library, checked out in the name of Lane Dunlap. I read the trove before
locating Lane and the books were returned to its provenance.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> In 1972-73 I had half a
year between jobs and took a six month freighter trip half way around the world
and back and read both steamer trunks worth of books, and translated two
volumes worth of Enzensberger essays and Handke’s Quodlibet.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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such as Robert Phelps and Fred Jordan, an editor at Grove Press during the 60s
and on, were flint stones, so was being a reader for George Braziller’s Book
Find Club, and for Columbia Pictures and I then kept the faith with oodles of
American writers that had made an impression Saul Bellow, Philip Roth, whose My
Life as a Man hit the nerve of the male ego as uppity lassies began to injure
it, then on learned to take full joy in
Women’s Lib… Malamud, Robert Lowell, Mary McCarthy, Walker Percy, Richard
Brautigan, Norman Mailer - always interesting, rarely great - James Baldwin,
John Barth, Paul Bowles, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Kurt Vonnegut, to mention just
the best known, and of course those whom I became fortunate to publish, such as
Sam Shepard, Marvin Cohen, and Michael Brodsky. Jim Krusoe’s work I came to
know in the late 80s. However, I am
scarcely as omnivorous as I was in my youth. I have become fussier, one result
of these deep draughts of Handke, and of an on-going psychoanalytic education
that has made me a very different kind of reader.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> I’ve become critical,
discretionary, absorbing Handke’s aesthetic makes me avert more and more – my
chief bone to pick with that exposure is how it has disenabled me of reading
more than a page of a lot of what is published, or to be utterly appalled as I
was by the two chapters of Jeffrey Eugenides’<u> The Marriage Plot </u>pre-published
in The New Yorker, where only rarely can I finish one of their stories,
recently Dandicat, a delightful writer, and Brad Leithauser whose work I have
cared for ever since Carey Cameron called my attention to it in the late 70s.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> The two Jonathan Franzen chapters from <u>Freedom</u>
that I read were contained nothing particularly awful – I noticed the
counter-reaction among writers to O Tannenbaum calling <u>Freedom</u> great
American literature. Perhaps each decade must anoint one such to make itself
feel less worthless. And I never did grow that second set of eyes. Focusing on
my analytic education and on Handke, who produces at least one book a year as
he seem to molt and take pride in never repeating himself – there is only so
much you can read… and… digest… if it has substance that is digestible. Matters
would be different if I felt more leisurely and could take my second trip
half-way around the world on a Hellenic Splendor with several steamer trunks
full of books. Yet certain books continue to make a big impression, e.g. Norman
Rush’s Mating, Cormac McCarthy’s Meridian – I liked his work ever since his <u>The
Orchard Keeper</u> around 1970 - Jim Krusoe’s <u>Girl Factory</u>; as different
as these books are, obviously for differing reasons. But this kind of
impression-making, or being made into a better observer, having my mind twisted
about is not what I am after, either; anyhoo, not entirely. Nor am I interested
in describing why I find myself unable to read certain writers – even from
steamer trunks - or the tiresomeness of nearly all pundits, who draw from the
same vat of platitudes, and now that they wrote themselves into those jobs
perforce must address one daily idiocy after another, or if they are paid hacks
for one of the other ideology must churn out their mind numbing,
brain-cell-destroying mental contaminants.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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At the coffee shop where I prefer to work I am surrounded by readers, of
different degrees of proficiency and responsiveness to texts, the word worlds
that enter their noggins, some of whom don’t even read the daily paper, the
Seattle Times mostly, a few WSJ and NY Times, if they do that, before
engrossing themselves - in one instance a Corvette owner – in its crossword
puzzle. One, an intelligent and pleasant sort, a retired civil servant from the
Seattle School system I persuaded to read several books I much like, and even
turned him on to Handke and Jim Krusoe, and he actually trekked through all of <u>Crossing
the Sierra Del Gredos</u>, and said he liked it, although he appears not to
have had the same experience of its ending as I and fellow aficionados had of
its amazing Berg und Talfahrt ending. But he was willing to read more Handke, <u>Sorrow
Beyond Dreams</u> reminded him I forgot of what other book he had recently
read, but elicited no other reaction. Then the <i>Essay on Tiredness</i> in <u>Three Essays</u> caught his fancy – but
left him angry because it had not provided the self-help answer he was hoping
to get: the fellow has a bad ticker, apparently when his heart is bothering him
he does lite reading! Once angry at the author, he did not proceed to the <u>Essay
on the Jukebox</u>; he liked <u>Girl Factory</u>, I have not checked whether he
proceeded with other Krusoes, such as the delightful <u>Iceland</u>. Thus he
proved to be not someone I wanted to talk to about books or reading at greater
length. One other man, a lawyer, an early bird like myself, reads one best
seller type after the other: he reads for an hour, then he walks home: he lives
a few blocks away; he’s back within the hour and reads again; like me, he wears
the same uniform, but that his feet are sockless at all times of the year, shod
in Birkenstocks, a blue blazer, he’s about 50 years old, has a pate instead of
a halo, solidly built guy, big unattractive face, verging on the brutal, and I
have no inclination to engage him in conversation. He only talks to what
appears to be an acolyte, but quite avidly, in the morning, until the acolyte
has to drive off to work. Sometimes when it rains, as it does with such famous
frequency in Seattle, the lawyer arrives in one of these Chrysler retro 40s
models that remind me of the first American car I bought fresh out of college
in 1958, a 1939 DeSoto! This coffee shop, although part of a small chain, is
half neighborhood hang-out, and, at a busy intersection, has a lot of regulars
just stopping by to get their java as they roll to or back from work, or at
lunchtime. It has dreadful music, whiney girl singers, all the baristas agree,
where only two songs change from month
to month, and so I have started to wear Mack’s pillow-soft fat, white moldable,
plastic ear plugs sympathize with Handke’s allergy to loud, dreadful noises of
all kinds, and never take them off, except after I shower at my health club to
clean my ears: the ambient city noise, even though I live adjacent to a
sizeable nature preserve begins to cease only late at night and is full blown
again by 7 in the morning. Meanwhile I have moved my work area next door, to a
huge Fedex/Office shop, and for the first time in my life delight in pure
American office surroundings. If it were open earlier and nearer I would go to
“Seattle’s First Coffee house”, the Allegro, in the University district, much
like McDougal street coffee houses in the 50s, funky. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Wallace Shawn and David Mamet. If the firm had had money to burn I would have
made offers for both of them. However, since Urizen lived hand to mouth, taking either or both of
them on required my conviction of some kind of ultimate literary worth, and in
that respect, although both Shawn and Mamet became established authors, their
strictly literary worth I is still iffy for me. Moreover, XXX agent submitted
American Buffalo, which looked like good
old American realism, matters would have been different if it had been Glengary
Glenn Ross, and instance where Amurrican realism then proves its occasional
extraordinary value and in marvelously gross humor. But is it literature? Has
the shit been turned into gold?<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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DER HAUSIERER, Handke’s second novel, continues to haunt me. It consists of
half a dozen section of pure phenomenological registrations of being terrified
while something very bloody and awful is going on, and these sections are are
ensconced within Handke’s account of the various stages of a detective novel.
Strewn within the registered phenomena are any number of quotes from American
black mask novels, e.g. “nothing is emptier than an empty swimming pool.” It is
Handke’s major attempt at overcoming terror, and it succeeds, as during his
childhood not only hiding under a blanket but masturbating succeeded in
stemming the fear engendered while being subjected to the noises of violent and
brutal drunken primal scene for a decade as of age two. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">5]
Ariadne Press.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">6]
The huge Handke bibliography lists these
dissertations, but also e.g. </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 16pt;"><a href="http://www.braumueller.at/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2172&osCsid=3bcb66e97120e4af2c20a3c88ba2f91b&navsection=">http://www.braumueller.at/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2172&osCsid=3bcb66e97120e4af2c20a3c88ba2f91b&navsection=</a> </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #e7eae2; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Was nun
den Zusammenhang dieser Klangphänomene gewährleistet, ist eine für Handke
typische Schreibhaltung, die sich durch perspektivisch verschobene
Wiederholungen auszeichnet. "Das ist etwas, was ich gelernt hab, das
Sich-Wiederholen mit Varianten", meint der Autor mit gutem Grund. Da
Handke von dieser Fähigkeit im Bereich der Klänge besonders intensiven Gebrauch
macht, werden plötzlich Kontinuitätslinien im Werk sichtbar, die einige
Verkrustungen der Forschung lockern und zu schematisch geratene Handke-Bilder
revidieren können. Methodisch soll dieser für die Literaturwissenschaft
herausfordernden Schreibgeste eine "polyperspektivische
Motivforschung" gerecht werden.</span></b> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="all" />
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">7]
and of being a kind of addict to being in love with one beautiful wench after
the other for something like a twenty years, a state of mind that I miss but
for the heartburn and ache as well as interference in work it can leave in its
wake.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Edmond
Caldwell<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">OCTOBER
11, 2008<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">“The
Viewer is Diverted,” or, The Handke-Effekt<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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been spending some time trying to figure out what makes reading Peter Handke’s
fiction such an unsettling literary experience, and I think I’ve isolated one
of the formal techniques he uses to achieve his peculiar ambience. I haven’t given the secondary literature on
Handke more than a passing glance, so forgive me (and maybe even gently inform
me) if I’m retailing what turn out to be critical commonplaces about his work.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">First,
an example, from Handke’s 1997 novel, On A Dark Night I Left My Silent
House. I’ve chosen this one because the
effect is fairly obvious here. The
protagonist, a pharmacist from a Salzburg suburb whose wife has left him, has
gone for an evening drive and now sits on a stump in a roadside clearing near
his car. The novel is narrated in the
third person, and seemingly a very “close” third, sliding at times into second
person, as here: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> “Crouching down to see what
was happening from close up; and besides, crouching you were closest to
yourself. Yet the field of vision
remained as broad as possible: the parked car, in which, with the increasing
dusk all around, a curious brightness seemed to have been trapped, the seats
very obviously empty, and as if there were more of them than usual, whole rows
of them; beyond it the airfield with the last plane rising into the air, at one
window that passenger who thought he could rub off the haze on the outside on
the inside; to the right, on the highway, an almost endless convoy of trucks,
white on white, United Nations troops deployed against a new war, or rather
returning from there (a few trucks were also being towed, half burned out); to
the left, the training place for police dogs, at the edge of the forest, where
one of the dogs seemed to have just got caught in a culvert and was howling
piteously, while another, growling almost as piercingly, kept leaping at a man
hidden behind a wall, burying its teeth in the ball of cloth in which the
‘fleeing criminal’ had wrapped his lower arm, then refusing to let go and
hanging on stubbornly as the man ran in a circle with him, swinging the animal
through the air.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Even though the passage
seems to be focalized through the protagonist’s perspective, it defies basic
physics for many or even most of the specific details to be available to his
point of view. Most obviously, of
course, the pharmacist wouldn’t be able to see the airplane passenger futilely
wiping his window (and still less would he see the haze), but there are other
distortions as well. The crouching
position described in the first line (after which no change in posture is given
to us) makes it highly problematic that the protagonist could take in the
convoy of UN trucks on the one hand and the policeman training his dog on the
other, especially considering that the convoy is described as “almost endless”
(i.e., seen disappearing into the horizon) and the dog trainer is at first
“hidden” behind a wall. Such a vista
might be available to the pharmacist were he crouched on top of a hill, but
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">In
the Newtonian physics of conventional realism, what you see from a crouch is
your shoelaces, yet we are assured that “the field of vision remained as broad
as possible” (but not “his field of vision” or “the field of his vision”). Could it be that when the pharmacist crouches
to draw “closest to himself,” some other physics takes over, a kind of Handkean
quantum mechanics? It’s a strange new
self-communion that has the result of seeming to evaporate its subjectivity
into the evening air.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Even the switch to second
person contributes to this evaporation, paradoxically suggesting at once a
greater intimacy than the third-person – as if the pharmacist were now
recounting his own impressions to himself – and a greater distance, in that the
invitation to the reader to closer identification with the protagonist
simultaneously dissolves his specificity as a particular, situation-bound
pharmacist from a Salzburg suburb. This
move ‘closer to oneself’ is therefore ambiguous, and could include a swerve
away from oneself or the discovery – even the in-habitation, so to speak – of
the realization that one might not be one at all.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> There are other things of
note in the passage – the suggestive locution “on the outside on the inside”;
the “white on white” of the trucks; the lurking savagery in the possible
faraway war (Serbia?) and the police dogs in the middle distance – but the main
effect, and what I’m calling (just for fun) the Handke-Effekt, is this
destabilizing of conventional novelistic focalization, at least in its “close”
variants (third-person limited, first person, and second person, leaving out
for the moment third-person omniscient). Like Brecht’s Verfremdungseffekt or
‘alienation effect’, it’s a species of defamiliarization, but what it
defamiliarizes most of all is the depiction of consciousness in traditional
realism. Conventional focalization overlaps with the sensorium of the
character, so that the reader sees what the character can plausibly see, hears
what the character plausibly hears, etc.; Handke subtly violates this. Think of a sort of bathyspheric bubble around
the character’s head, start moving the bubble to the left or right, or up and
down, outside the range of physical plausibility, and there’s your
Handke-Effekt. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
Handke-Effekt, as I wrote in the last post, is a type of alienation effect that
defamiliarizes conventional novelistic focalization. Here’s another example, this time fromThe
Afternoon of a Writer. After a day at
his desk the writer leaves his house for a walk “Although his house was on the
hilltop, with windows opening out in all directions, he hadn’t really looked
into the distance that day. A distant
view came to him only as his descent brought him among people. (At home he avoided the roof terrace for
which visitors envied him, because the panorama made him feel too remote; he
used it only to hang washing.) Now, in
the mountains out of which the river burst, he saw a glassy snow field; and on
the other side, at the edge of the plain, where the outer suburbs of the city
were situated, a curved moraine that might have been sketched in with
charcoal. It seemed to him that he might
reach out and touch the moss and lichen under the snow, the brook cutting
across the moraine, and on its banks outcroppings of ice, which made a clicking
sound as the water rushed through.
Beyond the housing developments on the periphery, he could see a row of
smaller buildings, which, as he continued to look at them, moved through the
countryside. He made out the Autobahn,
with its inaudible trucks, and for a moment he felt a vibration in his arms, as
if he were driving one of them. Near the
smokestacks of the industrial zone, in a strip of no-man’s-land overgrown with
bushes, a red light flared, and the dark container behind it turned out to be a
stopped train, which, when the signals changed, set itself, at first almost
imperceptibly, in motion, and grew larger as it approached. It would soon be pulling into the station,
and most of the passengers had already put on their coats. A child’s hand looked for a grown-up’s
hand. The travelers who were going
farther stretched out their legs. The
waiter in the almost empty dining car, who had been on duty since early
morning, stepped out into the corridor, cranked down the window, and cooled his
face in the breeze, while the dishwasher, an elderly meridional, sat in his
cubbyhole, smoking and staring impassively into space. Along with these distant sights (“Distance,
my thing”) the writer saw, above the roofs of the inner city, above the dome of
a church, standing out against the sky, a stone statue holding an iron palm
branch, surrounded by secondary figures as though executing a round dance.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Unlike
the crouching pharmacist in the passage from On A Dark Night, this protagonist
is in motion, descending from his hilltop house into the valley below and
enjoying the panorama along the way, and therefore the sheer variety of the
sights he is able to take in does not strain ‘Newtonian’ credibility to the
same extent. Nonetheless there still
seems to be a remarkable, distance-defying plasticity in the writer’s visual
field, as if he had with him a telescope – or even a movie camera and crane –
that Handke had somehow failed to mention.
The overall effect, however, is less like something seen through a lens
than something painted on a large-scale canvas in a flattened style that
eschews the foreshortenings and receding perspectives of traditional realist
illusionism. Instead, background,
middle-ground, and foreground appear almost “stacked up,” one on top of the
other. The effect is heightened by the
fact that Handke leaves out the narratorial stage directions that typically
(and usually boringly) make the transitions from one sight to another legible
in conventional Newtonian terms (i.e., “As the writer continued down the path,”
or, “Turning to his left, he saw,” etc.).
And then we also have, as in the previous example, those details which
are simply impossible for the ostensible focalizer to be able to see, in this
case the figures aboard the train when it pulls into the station – the child
and the other passengers, the waiter opening the window, the dishwasher smoking
his cigarette. Indeed, in a sudden refocusing, these are all relegated to the
status of “distant sights,” along with the smokestacks and the brook in the moraine.
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> At this point someone might
object that this “Handke-Effekt” business needlessly complicates a more or less
straightforward, and even conventional, narrative technique. What do we have
here but examples of free indirect discourse, shading, at most, into a kind of
stream of consciousness? Thus any
details which it might be physically implausible or impossible for the
protagonist to see in so-called “Newtonian” terms need nothing more than the
“quantum” magic of imagination or association to account for them. In the first passage when the crouching
pharmacist “sees” the airplane passenger trying to wipe the mist off the
window, he is merely imagining a plausible action that could be occurring
aboard the distant plane lifting into the sky.
Likewise, the writer in the second passage simply imagines the
passengers and employees in the train; the child and the dishwasher are not
“really” in the train car but in his mind.
The absence of directive language and tags of attribution (“he thought,”
“he remembered,” “he imagined”) is precisely what is “free” about free indirect
discourse, and the purpose of this approach is to bring readers closer to the
experience of unfettered and far-ranging consciousness itself.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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is the real force, though, of such an explanation? Behind a paean to consciousness is the
complete banalization of Handke’s prose.
If something strange and unsettling and defamiliarizing is indeed going
on in these moments, then what this objection does is torefamiliarize them, to
naturalize – and neutralize – their effects. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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alternative is to take these moments the way they strike us the first time we
encounter them, in all their strangeness – in other words to take them
literally. The pharmacist sees the
airplane passenger trying to wipe the mist off his window, the writer sees the
child and the waiter in the distant dining car – distance, after all, being
“his thing.” The old dispensation
presents us with an either/or choice between what can “realistically” be seen
and what must be explained as the product of imagination or madness – if it’s
“out there,” then the character can’t “really” see it, and if the character
sees it, then it must be “in here,” in his or her head. In the new dispensation of Handke’s fiction,
however, it’s the designations “inner” and “outer” that no longer signify,
because consciousness and landscape now share the same terrain, as if they were
all on one continuum, or moebius loop.
The protagonists "see" their impossible, Handkean landscapes,
but it could with equal justice be said that the landscapes conjure their
viewers into existence, they constitute their own focalization. The process is less like “seeing” than like
the experience of reading. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">In
the last post I said that the Handke-Effekt applies to the intimate or “close”
narrative focalizations – first person, second person, third person limited –
while I set to one side the question of third-person omniscient. It’s time, however, to notice the extent to
which the Handke-Effekt’s estrangements of conventional novelistic focalization
work by poaching on the territory of omniscience. Specifically, focalization
operating under the sign of the Handke-Effekt shares with omniscience some of
its mobility, the way it doesn’t have to be tethered exclusively to the
Newtonian limits of the traditional character’s sensorium. The all-seeing omniscient narrator would have
no problem, obviously, seeing the passengers on the plane and in the dining-car
of the train. But that doesn’t mean that
Handke goes to the other extreme; he selectively stretches the range of his
characters’ focalizations but never opts for God-like omniscience, for
narrating, say, in the manner of Balzac or Dickens. He eschews both traditional third-person
limited and third-person omniscient – but these turn out, I think, to be the
two sides of a single refusal. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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the importance in both passages, whether it is the crouching of the pharmacist
in the first passage or the writer’s walk down the hill in the second, of
descent itself. In each case the descent
is undertaken in the service of a wider perception. “Crouching you were closest
to yourself,” Handke writes of his pharmacist, and yet in this position “the
field of vision remained as broad as possible”; while the writer-protagonist in
the second example avoids his own envied roof-top prospect because the view
from there “made him feel too remote.” Instead, “a distant view came to him
only as his descent brought him among people.”
The gift of a kind of broad or comprehensive sight is given only to the
person who moves away from the heights and closer to the earth. This counter-intuitive move challenges a
trope deeply ingrained in Western culture in which the summit or peak, in one
form or another, is the privileged locus not only of physical sight but of
prophetic vision. There are Hebraic
versions (Pisgah and Sinai) and Hellenic versions (Olympus, Parnassus), while
closer to our own time there is the tradition of the “prospect poem,” from the
neoclassical (Denham’s “Cooper’s Hill”) to the Romantic (Wordsworth’s “Tintern
Abbey”). For an instance from German
Romanticism I imagine Caspar David Friedrich’s iconic painting, “The Wanderer
Above the Mists.” <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Weber Nicholson<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">International
Journal of Psychoanalysis, December 1, 2006<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">10]
There are I would guess numerous examples of what could be called jazzy writing
in American literature. Two come to immediate mind, Cleaver’s SOUL ON ICE, and
the last 50 or so pages of Frank Conroy’s otherwise dog of a novel BODY AND
SOUL. Suddenly my once oldest friend, a
fine jazz pianist, too, also autistically hypersensitive to numerous matters,
starts to boogie, and poly- morphously it appers, which does not salvage an
incredibly bad book coming from an otherwise first rate writer.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">11]
ctd Gredos quote: “After several visits to that country, she then spent some
years there as a student, in Dresden or Leipzig, let us say, a good hour by
bicycle from the village of her birth, and eventually, several countries or two
or three continents later, she even settled there, two hours by car from her
alleged birth house, by now torn down and replaced by a new building. She lived
there and worked, though not yet in banking. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Later
still, again after several countries and continents, after alternating between
work and the vagabond life, though not the same kind as her
grandparents'-almost always alone-she gradually, imperceptibly, lost track of
her birthplace, and one day the image of an expansionist, overweening Germany
was gone from her consciousness, whereas for a while at least some traces of
her own, small-caliber Germany lingered, a stream with the shadows of
water-skaters on its pebbly bed, a harvested cornfield from whose furrows bits
of chaff swirled into the air, a mulberry sapling that had wandered by mistake
into that steppe-cold region. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
then these traces, too, faded away. The images no longer came of their own
accord. She had to make an effort to summon them. And as a result they remained
devoid of meaning. At most they turned up in an occasional dream. And
eventually they, too, vanished from her dreams. That country no longer pursued
her. She did not have a country of her own, or another country either,
including this one here. And that was fine with her. Perfectly fine! The
eternities spent in foreign parts seemed to have shaped her, enhancing her
beauty, and not only the beauty of her face! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">A
clear, frost-cold night in early January on the outskirts of a northwestern
riverport city. What was the name of the city? of the country? The author she had
hired to write a book about her undertakings and her adventures had been
forbidden from the very beginning to use names. In a pinch he could use place
names, but it had to be made clear at once that they were usually false-altered
or invented. Here and there the author, with whom she had negotiated a standard
delivery contract, would also be free to toss in a real name; in any case,
future readers were to confine themselves to following the larger story, and
the story and the manner of its telling were calculated to make them free to
forget, from the moment they turned the first page, any thoughts they might
have had of hunting for clues or sniffing around. If possible, the first
sentence of her book would banish any such overt or ulterior motives in favor
of reading, pure and simple. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">According
to the contract, the same prohibition applied to names of persons and
indications of time. Persons' names were admissible only when they were clearly
products of the imagination. "What imagination?" (the author). -
"The imagination appropriate to the specific adventure, and to love"
(she). - "Whose love?" - "Mine. And indications of time only of
this sort: One winter morning. On a summer night. The following fall. At
Eastertime, in the middle of the war." <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">For
a long while now she had had hardly any relatives left. And those who were
still alive were out of sight and out of mind. Somewhere <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">-"Where?"
- "How should I know?"-she allegedly still had a half brother, who
allegedly rented out recreational vehicles, or was a microchip technician? or
both <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Yet for many years she had made her ancestors,
starting with her parents, of whom she had no conscious memories, the objects
of a quiet, private, and all the more fervent cult. These ancestors, with the
possible exception of her grandparents, who for a long time were entirely too
present, constituted-thanks to stories, no matter how fragmentary, indeed,
precisely because they were fragmentary, and then also dreams-the love for
which she wept anew, often daily, during a good "two dozen summers, and
even more winters." <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Did she long for her ancestors? Yes, yet not
to be with them, but merely to be able to look in on them for a moment, to
comfort them, to thank them, and to bow down before them, after taking the
appropriate step backward. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
then these shadowy ancestors had lost all their hold over her. And that, too,
had happened ever so gradually. Some summer or winter morning she had realized
that her venerated dead belonged to the gazillions of those who were no longer
present, having seeped into the ground since the dawn of time, crumbled, or
blown away to the four corners of the earth, never to be recalled, never to be
brought to life by any love whatsoever, irrecoverable for all eternity. They
still turned up now and then in dreams, but only as part of a crowd, under the
heading of "also present": this "now and then" no longer
had the meaning it had once possessed of "at all sacred times." <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">And
this second death of her ancestors was also fine with her, like the small and
large birth country that had earlier slipped away from inside her. In the
meantime she had come to see as delusory the type of strength she had long
derived less from the entire country than from little pockets in that country,
less from the wholly successful life of an ancestor (to be sure, there was not
even one life that fit that description) than from misfortune and a lonely
death (which was the lot of all her forebears). Such strength, she wondered:
Did it not make one tyrannical and ruthless? Did it not add to the burdens of
those with whom one now passed time, lived, worked, had dealings, in the
present? Such strength was accompanied by a kind of arrogance, was it not,
which could thwart, even harm, even destroy the days as well as the nights of one's
contemporaries, those who somehow or other got close to one? Once free of her
ancestor worship, did she become receptive to other kinds of strength?
impulses? No, in spite of everything, it was not perfectly fine with her when
the ancestors grew meaningless and dim. It was more a question of her letting
it happen, with a bitter aftertaste, and not only on her tongue. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Week
after week it had been bone-chillingly cold in this region where she had made
her home for a long time now. At first she wanted to talk the author out of any
reference to this detail, which hardly seemed to fit the "northwestern
port city" they had settled on as her place of residence, a place where
the Gulf Stream moderated the climate. But then she allowed herself to be persuaded
that a "port" could also be a riverport, inland, far from the warming
coast, on what was already a cold portion of the continent. Basel. Cologne.
Rouen. Newcastle upon Tyne. Passau. What mattered: that her bank's headquarters
were located in such a city. But the name of the bank was not to be mentioned
in her story either. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">On
the morning of her departure she rose even earlier than usual. As before every
journey, it had been a light, floating night, perhaps, too, because she had
again slept in the bed belonging to her child, who had gone away. Her things
were already packed-or rather, stashed in a bag purchased at the end of her
girlhood and by now half as old as she was. It seemed immeasurably older,
however: worn, torn, scuffed; like a relic from the Middle Ages, when travel
had been very different from today; an ermine satchel? Time and again, before
each of her solitary journeys, and not only into the Sierra, she had wanted to
throw it away, or at least stow it in a corner. And every time it had been the
one she decided to take with her-"just once more." As a child, her
daughter, long since over the hills and far away, had begged her mother,
whenever one of their games came to an end, for this kind of "just one
more game," and after that "just one more": "Please, just
one more, one more!" This was no longer asking; it was pleading. The
author: Could he include that in her book? She: If not that, then what? All
through the trip her bag remained half open. But nothing ever fell out. And her
shoes? They were old and scuffed-good for rock climbing. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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was still completely dark, and outside the frost crackled on the windowpanes.
She did not turn on the light; the moon, almost full, though waning, shone
through the entire house with its many uncurtained windows. Here on its
periphery, the river-port city extended to the foot of a ridge, partly wooded,
partly bare cliffs. The hill, black with the moon behind it and very close by,
appeared to form part of the spacious house, which at the moment looked empty.
In each room-and there were quite a few rooms-the near emptiness projected a
different image: here the resident had long since moved out for good; here the
room had been cleared out except for two or three objects and pieces of
equipment, ready for work to begin; now the deserted vestibule showed signs of
a hasty departure; now the table in the parlor gleamed for a meeting about to
take place; there, in the kitchen's one pot, the size of a cauldron, food had
been prepared for a large gathering, or for a whole week. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> A sort
of fullness or, rather, stuffed quality, similar to that of her bag, manifested
itself only in the first of the suite of rooms intended for a toddler, a
schoolchild, and a student: even the corners were filled with games, action
figures, toys, standing and lying next to and on top of each other. Except that
in her bag each of the items had its place, its purpose, its plan; they all
complemented and implied one another. But here in the playroom, the hundreds of
toys were scattered every which way and did not reveal any recognizable game.
Not even the rudiments of any familiar or reproducible game could be discerned,
and not merely because of the moonlight. Yet games had been played in this
room, with all the things lying about on the floor, and with all of them
together, at the same time, and how! Full of enthusiasm, in the sweat of
armpits and the brow, amid shouts of encouragement and the raucous singing of
made-up songs, play, play, nothing but play. And the play seemed to have ended
not all that long ago. Any minute now it would resume. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Before
setting out, a cup of coffee (or tea) at one of the windows on the south side.
That was the direction in which she was supposed to go. Yet it was a long time
since a southern destination had meant anything to her, as was also true of the
ocean and all the other points of the compass-and that was fine-including the
Himalayas and a journey to the moon. The latter was suddenly reflected in her
cup and promptly disappeared again. She tried to catch it. But it slipped away
each time. She sat down on a folding chair, a so-called camp chair, and wished
she could sit there forever. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Now
a shock: someone was eyeing her, or her silhouette, from outside, from the
dark: the author, the deliveryman. A first solitary peal of the bell in the
church tower on the outskirts, and almost at the same moment the voice of the
muezzin from the nearby minaret, answered by the repeated hooting of an owl in
the wooded hills. The first early plane leaving a flashing trail among the
sparkling fixed winter stars, and now, as a third element, a match struck
across the entire sky and already extinguished: a January falling star. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">No,
no author. And yet he existed. He was even a reason for, and one of the
destinations of, the trip she was about to undertake. And it was only
tangentially or incidentally for the purpose of telling him her life story or
whatever. The main purpose was money. He and she had first agreed on a contract
for the delivery of her book, and now they were to sign a contract in which she
and her bank-the bank and she, or at least her name, had long since become
synonymous-were to have a free hand in managing and growing the author's fee. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">Nowadays
she did not normally concern herself with such matters. The bank had its own
department for them, and by now she worked outside of and above the
departments. But in this case she had to make an exception. She had got herself
into this situation when she decided that she wanted a real book written about
herself, instead of the endless newspaper articles and magazine features, a
book about her bank, too, and its history. Of course the amount of money the
author wanted to invest (or could invest) was a drop in the bucket, and not
only compared to the sums her bank usually handled. And the author's
personality, too, judging by the one meeting the two of them had had thus far,
seemed like that of someone who would normally give her a wide berth. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> How had she settled on him? Why had she not
signed a contract with a journalist, or a historian, or, the most obvious
choice, a journalist specializing in history? From the beginning she had
insisted on a more or less serious writer, a teller of tales, or for that
matter an inventor of tales, which did not have to imply that he bent or
falsified the facts-just that he slipped in additional facts here and there,
different, unsuspected facts, and, once in the swing of things, suppressed or,
why not? simply forgot some that were obvious, not necessary to mention?
"The Facts, Not the Myth"-that was what one of the historically
oriented journalists had suggested as a subtitle when he offered his services
for the book project. And among other mottoes, this one, this very one, had
sent her off on the opposite track, or rather sidetrack, that of the author, although
there came moments when she felt she had fallen into his trap. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> Be that as it might, she was confident that
he would smuggle all kinds of other things into the series of facts; and those
things would be decisive for the story. Story? This was closer to the true
state of affairs: as others might aspire to earn a place in history, she wanted
to earn a place in the "story." And it should be a story that could
not be filmed, or could be captured only in a film such as no one had ever made
before. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">At
one time she had been a reader. (She still read now, but for her it was not
real reading anymore. She did not read properly. Yet she felt orphaned without
reading.) And in those days the author, that accursed author-and not only
because of this trip he was forcing her to take-had served her less as a hero
than as a pilot? No, she did not need a pilot; served? Yes, served. And
although his last few books had appeared quite a while ago, and she had not
even got around to reading them, the idea had suddenly occurred to her of
having him write her book. Him or no one. And he would get down to work for her
right away. No one, not even he, could refuse her offer. Even that he might ask
for time to think it over would be inconceivable to her. Once, when she had been
in another part of the world, as the guest of a president, a man who placed
great importance on his own dignity and whose cooperation was almost a matter
of life and death to her bank-"let us say, the president of
Singapore"-in the middle of the negotiations she had demanded that a
certain document she had left in her hotel room be fetched, not by just anyone,
but by the president himself. "And he promptly went to get it!" <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">The
author, without a new book now in a decade, was, at the same time, almost to
his own regret-"almost"-by no means forgotten. Without being anywhere
near wealthy, he did not suffer from a lack of money. He knew nothing at all
about her and her worldwide legendary reputation as a banker and financial
expert until her proposal reached him, sped to his garden gate by an authorized
courier, and his ignorance was not the result of his isolated life in a village
in La Mancha (where did such a thing still exist, a voluntarily isolated
life?). <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">12]
“Inbetween states” – Loser, protagonist of Handke’s ACROSS/ CHINESE DES
SCHMERZENS, claims to be a “thresholdler”, with regard to which Freud [in the <u>Interpreation
of Dreams</u>] et al were interested in the states inbetween waking and falling
asleep during which dream images appeared un- or far less-hindered than during
waking period, but you still had access to them.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">NOTE
THE LINKS @: <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://soldzresearch.com/PsychoanalyticResourcesOnline.htm">http://soldzresearch.com/PsychoanalyticResourcesOnline.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">where
you can follow up these matters.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;"> although he now has become a writer in a
certain great tradition, from the very beginning - I think not just because he
has a genius capacity in that respect but because he has been so deeply enmeshed in
the world of words, has a purchase on language in his prose and some of his
theater text that makes him interestingly unique [who started with this tack
“„Literatur mit der Sprache gemacht wird, und nicht mit den Dingen, die mit der
Sprache beschrieben werden". ]
before he turned to rediscovering narrative; not just another “great writer,”
but of import for the logos as a whole - not that there aren’t matters,
especially in his longer works, that I and others do not quarrel with. And we
are not talking abot the guy as psychological catastrophe or his moral
character. Moreover, as extraordinary as his ability to be a virtuoso in the
classical mode has become <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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metamorphosis. Up to that point it had only been a word to me, and when it
began, not gradually, but abruptly, I thought at first it meant the end of me.
It seemed to be a death sentence. Suddenly the place where I had been was
occupied not by a human being but by some kind of scum, for which unlike in the
well-known grotesque tale from old Prague, not even an escape into images,
however terrifying, was possible. This metamorphosis came over me without a
single image, in the form of sheer gagging. Art of me was numb. The other part
carried on with the day as though nothing was amiss. It was like the time I saw
a pedestrian, who had been hurled into the air by a car, land on both feet on
the other inside of the radiator and continue on his way, as cool as you
please, at least for a few steps. It was like the time m son, when his mother
collapsed during dinner, stopped eating only for the mount and then, after the
body had been taken away, went on chewing, along at the table, until his place
was empty. And likewise I, when I fell off a ladder last summer, immediately
scrambled up it again, or tried to And likewise I myself again, just the day
before yesterday, after the knife blade snapped back and almost severed my
index finger, revealing all the</span></i></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">…<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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The first page of CHINOUS DE LA DOULEUR/ CHINESE DES SCHMERZENS/ called ACROSS
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the city lights took shape. Not the light of the Old City, but the streetlamps
that had just gone on in one of the many housing developments on the southern
periphery. The development, consisting of two-story single-family huts, is
situated on the big plain at the foot of the Untersberg. Long ago, this plan
was a natural reservoir; ten I tsilted up an became swampland – there are still
swampy patches and ponds – and today it is known as the Leopoldskroner Moos. At
first the street lamps barely glimmer; then they flare up with a pure white
light. By contrast, the arc lamps affixed to concrete poles at the eastern
endof the development, where a turnaround marks the end of the bus line, glow
reddish-yellow. Between the bus terminus and the development lies a canal
dating from the middle Ages, fed by the Koenigsee and by one of the Untersberg
brooks; this is the Alm canal, the “noble Alm.” The development lies right
outside the city limit [just before the entrance, there’s a sign with a
diagonal line through the word “Salzburg”): it is called the Oak Tree Colony
All the streets take the names form the trees:
Alder Street Willow Street Birch Street, Fir Street. Only the road
coming from the virtually uninhabited peat bog in the west has kept its old
name: Cider Press Road. And within the development there are still a few of the
old peat cutters’ huts, some fallen into decy, some used for other purposes/<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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it in <u>Freiheit des Schreibens,</u> a wonderful compendium of Handkeana,
edited by Klaus Kastberger [2010, Zsonaly Verlag] that we find the interview
where Handke mentions what a sorry puppy his when he is not breathing right,
another pointer in the direction of his <i>PSYCHOSOMATIC</i>
need to write, and a pointer in the direction of why he affects so strongly,
and also so differently.<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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OUT-TAKE: However, prior to my advertised focus on very special and unique
experiences that I have had with Handke’s work and nowhere else at any other
time or with any other writer, I want to add more than just a note on the
lengths of time that animals have been making markings - millions of years I
suspect, but on the comparatively short period 5000 years + that making marks
had turned into something as formalized as writing in code:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 18pt;">From
this developed a series of literary cultures with a history not just of
writing, but of writing about writing. Although it takes most of us a bit of
time to get a hang of reading, it is astonishing how quickly reading also
becomes second nature; not just second nature - no end of people, parents,
teachers, pundits weigh in on the matter, misunderstand each other, write
wonderful tomes on matters such as Misprision; and as you look at the history
of the prisions and mis you notice that some religions regard letters of the
alphabet as sacred or mystical, that textual disputes have led or been used to
go to war. I recall that as the member of the PEN translation committee I had
the experience of that group arguing for two sessions of three hours,
ultimately, about the placement of the commas for its mission statement, and a
more experienced publisher than I would ever be, Helen Wolf and I raising our
heads and looking at each other joined at the hip in utter astonishment at the
group’s total unawareness of its infinite quibbling and fussing; thus, one
circle of hell is reserved for translators of that kind; another for gloomy
grammarians. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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am I talking about “reading” philosophical or scholarly texts – an entirely
different matter to being engaged by lyrical epic writers, self-conscious
novelists like Stifter or Handke. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Handke has become an effective bridge builder between sections. For <u>Morawian</u>
to have had the kind of formal overall wholeness of <u>Noman’s-Bay</u> and<u>
Del Gredos</u> would have required a huge 1001 Nights Bokara carpet or the kind
of discernibly stranded long rope [s] that Del Gredos is. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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I had a crew cut, some school mates called me “Ami”, and that was not the French word for friend in this case. All those ads with nubile American automobiles! With just a single course in English, I was apparently sufficiently adequate to read the hilarious <u>Cheaper by the Dozen</u> during the transatlantic trip on the “USS General Maurice Rose,” </span></b><b><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: yellow; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 20pt;">the first title I read entirely in American that left an impression – I was familiar with the kinds of American magazines that G.I.s stationed in Germany read in the late 1940s, Look, Life, Time, was Americanizing myself well before I set out on my journey – was during my trip as a 12 year old on the U.S.S. Maurice Rose, from Bremerhaven to the Brooklyn Port of Em-and-Disembarkation, was Frank Bunker Gilbreth and Lillian Moller Gilbreth’s <u>Cheaper by the Dozen</u>, where the authors’ names are far out-weighed by that of their comedic masterpiece, and if I’d been smart I’d not have gotten off the boat but sailed right back to Bremerhaven, and sought refuge from the murderous country I was leaving, less impulsively, to an elsewhere. Behold the American family in action and avert your gaze, shutter your ears! Then, in quick order, Hersey’s <u>A Bell for Adano</u> [which was perceived as most informative on the war that I seemed to have been part of as a child], <u>The Brave Bulls</u> [that linked the American Southwest with Karl May induced fantasies of it] lots of Somerset Maugham, <u>Of Human Bondage</u> made a big impressions. My first American flue became memorable for reading and laughing myself well with the entirety, really, I mean all of P.G. Wodehouse, mother-plied from the West Orange public library. How did she or my stepfather know? Ever since I have been unable to read Wodehouse without falling ill; which is sort of like being unable to go to Vienna where I had a cyst, in fact an infected vestigial gill, removed at age 5, a trauma I feared to revisit. A bit hysterical, somewhat homeopathic?</span></b><b><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: yellow; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 20pt;"> West Orange became yet another retreat into voracious reading. Did I read the Newark Star Ledger for whom I worked as an early morning paper boy? I certainly read the New York Times, my parents subscribed: without Auntie as my teacher it is unlikely that after just four years I would have scored in the 99<sup>th</sup> percentile on the College Boards for American history – a score that gave me an inkling how little the rest of the country knew of its history. It helped that among other quirks my stepfather was a Shakespeare nut, who would recite the great monologues while he and I careened in his 2<sup>nd</sup> car Crosby, a Frigidaire-size automobile, through the development where he had pitched our tent. Since Dick also bought recordings of the plays, these afforded the opportunity of an overlay, or a nice moss bed to absorb my German accent. Dylan Thomas, too! There were stretches I could read at length in the outdoors at Camp Pocono which I attended for three straight summers. I could, would read anywhere. Oakwood School, a darling Quaker School in Poughkeepsie which I attended as of my Junior year, had, first, another nut case, for an English teacher, Terry Matern, who suffered bravely from Coral fever contracted as a Navy Diver during WW II in the Pacific but whose love of Whitman introduced me to those long lines. Really really lucky I got Senior year with Yoshira Sonbanmatsu, a Nisei who taught the kind of course that the Haverford introductory humanities could barely equal: Samuel Butler, Gide, Ibsen, the Greek Tragedies, the other various Russians, Joyce – by the time I graduated I could recite <u>Anna Livia Plurabella</u>, a confirmed Joycean for many years, although the full oomph of <i>Finnegan’s Wake</i> did not hit me until I did an analysis in my 40s. Oh how those puns speak when repression has been lifted! How repression stupefies! No need for trots!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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Singular and Plural<span style="text-decoration: none;"> [a.k.a. "The Turk"] then, later this week, my take on Ms.
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;"><i><span style="color: #400040; text-decoration: none;">On a bench in the park sits a Turk
with a thickly bandaged finger: I am sitting on a bench in the park next to a
Turk with a thickly bandaged finger: We are sitting on a bench in the park, I
and a Turk with a thickly bandaged finger: A Turk with a thickly bandaged
finger is sitting with me on a bench in a park.<br />
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We are sitting on a bench in the park gazing out on the pond, and I see
something swimming in the pond, and the Turk is gazing out on the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see an object swimming in the pond, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass, propelled by swimming
ducks, making its way to the shore, and the Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass swimming shoreward,
propelled by swimming ducks, and then I see the tuft of grass floating away
from the shore, propelled by ducks swimming in the opposite direction, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass that, propelled by
swimming ducks, was about to be washed ashore and then, propelled by ducks
swimming in the opposite direction, was about to be washed back into the middle
of the pond and now, propelled by ducks intersecting the two groups of ducks
that are swimming in the opposite direction, float suspended in place, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see an object I took to be a tuft of grass or
something I took to be an object that I believed was a tuft of grass suddenly
disappear after it had moved in place, and I stop moving my head in time with
the object on one and the same spot: that is to say, I am startled or, I am
startled, that is to say, I stop moving my head in time with the object on one
and the same spot, and no longer move at all, and the Turk is gazing at the
pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a duck surfacing with a tuft of grass in
its bill, and I am tired of gazing and am satisfied, and the Turk is gazing at
the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond and, without seeing anything, I remember the sports
writer who talked about death, and the Turk is gazing at the pond.</span></i><span style="text-decoration: none;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></span></div>
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A Turk and I, we are sitting in the park on a bench and are gazing at the pond:
I am sitting in the park on a bench next to a Turk with a thickly bandaged
finger: I am sitting on a bench in the park next to a Turk with a thickly
bandaged finger: next to me on the bench in the park there suddenly sits a Turk
with a thickly bandaged finger which he is extending away from his other fingers:
in the park on a bench sits a Turk with nine unimpaired fingers which he
presses to the pal<a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/09/peter-hhandke-wounded-love-child.html">peter-hhandke-wounded-love-child</a>ms of his hands: on a bench in the park sits a Turk with a
thickly bandaged finger and gazes out at the pond.</span>
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"self-state" text. The title of the collection THE INNERWORLD OF THE
OUTERWORLD points in that direction. Elliot famously termed the phrase
"objective correlative," correlative will do, objective? who is to
judge? Seeming adequate, "good enough," getting close to, approximate
to what?<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>The self and its many elves. Which
and to what degree might have possessed the 26 year old Piotr
Sivec-Schoenherr-Handke to put him in the state of mind to find and judge these
several superficially same-seeming stanzas an adequate expression of his own
self-state and sufficiently emblematic to serve as a projection screen for a
potential reader? With a variety of dramas going on barely beneath,
occasionally breaking through the attempt to maintain as near perfect virtuoso
grammatical surface as that of the nearly unbroken surface of a pond... a state
of revery.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>To becalm himself in gazing, in
reverying? To encorcel himself with grammatical variations. Language and body
and eyes and what is beheld rocking moving in synchronicity, which breaks down
on a few times...<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>This is a communicable state.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Self-states are grasped,
conceptually, there are other graspings, most successfully by the rubric of
psychoanalsis called "self-psychology."<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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immediate features of this text? <o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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"Turk". He is clearly identified, the author tells us not whether he
is wearing a turban as which a European or American reading this text 100 years
ago might have outfitted him in their then cliche imaginations, his only real
identifying feature is that he has a </span>thickly<span style="text-decoration: none;"> bandaged finger [why not just a
bandaged finger?], and that, as is often the case under such wounded
circumstances, he is holding it away from the other fingers on that hand. He
has nine unwounded fingers, two hands, at one point he is however holding his
fingers away from both hands, either the pain is very great or he is as naive
as a child, he might be of rural origin. Is he over-compensating? Can he not
tell one hand from the other? Is this a species of imaginatively doubled pain?<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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image of "a Turk" in my mind? Not really, but I do have a now no
doubt dated one of Turkish guest workers in German railway stations.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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"someone"? <o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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it? The drama would seem to entail a split, the "I" and "the
Turk" who however are doing the same damned gazing, but sat down as we
find out in the course of the text after the narrator was seated on the bench,
next to him. Do we even need the Turk? Couldn't it just be I and my wounded
finger sitting on the bench? Maybe the Turk is like the unwounded fingers that
are being held at the greatest possible distance from the source of pain?
Something seen, the seeing of a split. But "a Turk" might really have
sat down next to Handke and then become a projection screen for his alter ego.
However, the narrator is not engaged with him in the endless dialogue going on
in fantasy, with one's alter ego [s].<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Perhaps there really was a Turk by a
pond [the poem was written in 1968 in Berlin, with a quickly increasing but
then entirely un-assimilated Turkish guest worker population] whom Handke
noticed and identified and empathized with [?]. It makes no difference, the
very name, the pointedness of it makes him [Handke's Turk] an outsider, he is
identified and identification differentiates him, he feels outside no matter what, he is
different. What if instead of "the Turk" we had "A Lefthanded
Woman" sitting next to the narrator, to the grammatical I? After all,
linguistically, the poetic text points to the mind's involvement in grammatical
formulations, their correctness adequateness, the world is being turned into
language, we notice the very activity of this happening,<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>it fusses to try to get it right, for
language not just to mimic what is going on but to be linguistically at one and
the same place, language as a kind of snake skin:<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;"><i><span style="color: #400040; text-decoration: none;">and I see an object I took to be a tuft of grass or
something I took to be an object that I believed was a tuft of grass suddenly
disappear after it had moved in place, and I stop moving my head in time with
the object on one and the same spot: </span></i><i><span style="color: #400040;">that is to say, I am startled or, I am
startled, that is to say, I stop moving my head in time with the object on one
and the same spot, and no longer move at all</span></i></span><i><span style="color: #400040; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: lime;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></i></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>As a matter of fact, the narrator is
staring so fixedly at the tuft of grass being propelled this and that way by
our delightful and delightfully distracting feathered friends that he becomes
disturbed by disappearance of the tuft of grass that is being shoved around.
Absence causes a disturbance. In him and in the grammaticality of the text. It
is no longer declarative. Doubt, uncertainty disturb the perfect surface
parallel to the disturbance that occurs in the pond with ducks diving and
resurfacing. The idyll in the park is marred a little.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b> The reappearance of the tuft of grass resolves
the disturbance; is followed by relief, the status quo ante has been achieved...
A surface drama hinting at what larger dramas underwater?<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="text-decoration: none;">Handke has said, and I believe him,
that he does not revise. He does change the occasional last sentence in his
texts, and as he has matured, makes alterations in galleys particularly now that
he has written monstrums of the kind that he once said he never would. Whether
he wrote pieces like </span>Kaspar<span style="text-decoration: none;"> and </span>Ride
Across Lake Constance<span style="text-decoration: none;"> in full swoop? For a long time he never spent more than three months on
a text, including, it appears, </span>Die Hornissen, Der Hausierer,
Goalie's Anxiety at the Penalty Kick, Short Letter Long Farewell, Sorrow Beyond
Dreams. A Moment of True Feeling, The Lefthanded Woman...<span style="text-decoration: none;"> The fairly complex six-stranded
[1994] 250,000 word novel "Nomansbay" was proudly woven together in
one year, the sort of book that no end of U.S. authors are proud to complete by
hook and by crook in 10 to 20 years, to hosannas, especially that of spouses if
they have cheering spouses left, and Handke made some cuts in galleys, he could
have made just a few more.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="text-decoration: none;">So one could fairly safely assume
that "Singular and Plural" was written right there on the spot, its
grammaticality points to its incidental nature, since Handke always carried a
note book and pencil with him which he would produce from one second to the
next. From writing so-called truly incidental poems to writing down involuntary
associations in </span>Weight of the World<span style="text-decoration: none;"> takes barely a half step.
Incidental, occasional texts, even then tied to a place, an event.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>What would you do if you sat next to
someone with an injured finger? I myself, under similar circumstances, would
have pointed to the finger and said: "Ola, Compadre [or
"Amigo"], que pasa?" since it is far more likely for me to find
myself sitting next to a homesick Central American, while I however, have
little of Handke's then, homesickness left in me.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>For I connect this, as per Handke,
with the homesickness he felt when he went to his first boarding school, the
Griffen Seminary, at age 12 I believe. Homesick for a gruesome home!? [well,
not the mother wasn't, but the situation as a whole? for sure, yet there was
the grandfather! The apparently monstrous stepfather]. With what Handke called
"that hangnail feeling", the kind of feeling Freud's <i>Little Hans</i> must have endured when he thought
he'd been bitten by that horse.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>A gazing Turk, he keeps a thickly
bandaged wounded finger away from his hand and his gaze peeled on the pond and
its compliment of ducks; he is trying to distract himself, by holding the
finger away from his hand, a customary act under the circumstances, and his
gaze away from the finger. That the finger is wounded is an assumption, a
projection. The looking away, the trying to focus on distractions is an act of
defense as is the poem, the text in its entirety. <o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b> Who knows how he injured his finger? If Handke
were writing a poem about a Turk who had cut his finger on a Berlin
Weisswurst-making-machine, he would have told us. So there is just a wounded
finger which might or might not be symbolic, but evidently sufficiently painful
as to need to be disregarded as much as possible by extending the other nine unimpaired
fingers away from both hands... an odd sight... is the pain that excruciating?<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b> A wounded finger elicits some sympathy. All by
himself it appears at a pond but lots of our feathered friends who during the
course of the the stanzas prove more and more amusing and unpredictable, more
of a distraction, worth watching. It will not be long they will come up to the
two bench warmers and tug at the cuffs of their pants to be fed?<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> If
it is symbolic and sufficiently painful, the injured finger might point to an
injured sense of self. It might point to a state of continuous injury, it might
or might not connect with the love child Handke's exposure, as of age two, to a
decades' worth of violent drunken violations of his mother, during which he learned to cover his eyes, to look
away, yet to </span>peek<span style="text-decoration: none;">, it might be what is called "a residue", a
sequelae.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b> More specifically the injured finger might
point in the direction of the castration anxiety that was induced during that
exposure, but which bebe Peter overcame in his rage by masturbating, where the
pleasurable and tension releasing elements of this activity would seem to be
the least important within the internal psychic economy... mastery of the
fright... which became Handke's special forte when he has a pencil in hand. The
diary work book "The History of the Pencil" does not address that
core component. But the famous sentence: "I feel so anxious but everything
I the write is then so calm" ... this certainly is one instance of this
action which re-occurrs within the mind of a genuine reader. The artist poet as
surrogate on that level. These are possible associations of someone familiar
with Handke and aspects of Psychoanalysis...
<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>There are alternatives to writing,
reporting this scene? Par ejamplo:<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>"You know the other day..."<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>But it was written, probably in one
fell swoop. A further distraction away from the painful state, the act of
writing itself an overcoming, a becalming. In the last paragraph a status quo
ante has been achieved. <o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>However, Handke ritualizes it through
a variety of stanzas; once will not do, we need theme and variation; it
ritualizes somewhat like a a rosary; the performance of the ritualization at
the moment of competition and completion [for all we know, it was written in
one draft] right there and then by whatever nameless pond in whatever nameless
region.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Yes, there really would not have been
anything wrong with writing "a pond in Berlin" [perhaps it was the
Krumme Lanke?] But putting in the city name would have taken away from the
singularity of "Turk", the pond, the bench with its two bench warmers
and added a superfluous Berlin aura to the poem; delimited the clean focus,
adding an unnecessary variable.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>"Singular and Plura", the
title, too, is a pushing away of fingers. The title could also be "The
face of Mastrello Mastriano"... the perfect surface of the text is like a
movie actor's mask... one eye brow twitches, a duck dives underwater... a
mask... a projection screen for the audience...<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>It takes a fairly cool character to
discociate that successfully. that i think is what people mean when they regard
the irascible handke as cold. that too was learned during that terrifying
decade.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>This short text could also be a
25 minute film.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="text-decoration: none;">The intention, after all, is not to
write a report for a newspaper, the Krumme Lanke Weekly, it is meant to be a
display, to be admired, of a particular performance, of the performance of
writing oneself into something approximating an idyllic becalmed state. It is a
small victory over fright. "Look, Ma! No hands!" It is also a
virtuoso performance, the texts from "Innerworld" were written during
Handke's virtuoso period, </span>Kaspar, Ride, etc.<span style="text-decoration: none;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>And so the pond, too, remains
nameless. Ponds reflect of course, the author does not tell us whether this
pond is muddy, considering those busy ducks and those tufts of grass one
presumes at Duck Soup, not at the clearest of reflections. Still as the pond
is... right, what is the need of those ducks, they could easily be edited out?
just like the city has been. Then we would have looked, found our reflection in
the pond for sure. But would have lacked a distraction. So, conceivably, with
that wounded finger and feeling generally lonely and lousy we do not want to
look at ourselves in the mirror.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Three stanzas with a good deal of
repetition, fairly minimal variation. But if you were the kind of supercilious
Philistine jerk that said to me that this is like a cuckoo clock you would
incur my eternal wrath. <o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b> Sort of like a dream that is tried out a
number of times, until it is acceptably formed to pass the governess well
dressed into consciousness.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>"The Turk" is nearly
entirely becalmed, he has ritualized himself into a state of reverie... the
state an analyst finds himself in when listening into his patient on the
couch... and the killer sentence surges up out of the unconscious: "And he
thought of the sportswriter who wrote about death."<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Not just a writer, no end of writers
have death on their minds. But a "sportswriter"...sports writers have
the nicest of jobs, they have nearly as much fun as the lifelong kids they
write about. So a "sportswriter" who writes about death, now it's
getting serious; this is far worse than the wounded finger. Perhaps that is
that whiff of longing of leaping into the pond.<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Once more now..<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: yellow;"><i><span style="color: #400040; text-decoration: none;">On a bench in the park sits a Turk with a thickly
bandaged finger: I am sitting on a bench in the park next to a Turk with a
thickly bandaged finger: We are sitting on a bench in the park, I and a Turk
with a thickly bandaged finger: A Turk with a thickly bandaged finger is
sitting with me on a bench in a park.<br />
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We are sitting on a bench in the park gazing out on the pond, and I see
something swimming in the pond, and the Turk is gazing out on the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see an object swimming in the pond, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond. </span></i><span style="color: #400040; text-decoration: none;"> [One eye seems constantly peeled on the Turk,
as though we are looking both straight ahead and to the side at one and the
same time. A split.] <i><br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass, propelled by swimming
ducks, making its way to the shore, and the Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
<br />
We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass swimming shoreward,
propelled by swimming ducks, and then I see the tuft of grass floating away
from the shore, propelled by ducks swimming in the opposite direction, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
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We are gazing at the pond, and I see a tuft of grass that, propelled by
swimming ducks, was about to be washed ashore and then, propelled by ducks
swimming in the opposite direction, was about to be washed back into the middle
of the pond and now, propelled by ducks intersecting the two groups of ducks
that are swimming in the opposite direction, floats suspended in place, and the
Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
<br />
We are gazing at the pond, and I see an object I took to be a tuft of grass or
something I took to be an object that I believed was a tuft of grass suddenly
disappear after it had moved in place, and I stop moving my head in time with
the object on one and the same spot: that is to say, I am startled or, I am
startled, that is to say, I stop moving my head in time with the object on one
and the same spot, </i> [the disturbance
reflected in the grammar] <i>and no longer
move at all, and the Turk is gazing at the pond.<br />
<br />
We are gazing at the pond, and I see a duck surfacing with a tuft of grass in
its bill, and I am tired of gazing </i>[something happened just now, to make
the narrator tired and angry... what is it? is it the sentence in the following
paragraph with the thought about the sportswriter?]<i>and am satisfied, and the Turk is gazing at the pond:]<br />
<br />
We are gazing at the pond, and, without seeing anything, </i> [Handke, suffering from occasional color
blindness, has he seen black just now?] <i>I
remember the sports writer who talked about death, and the Turk is gazing at
the pond.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></span></div>
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A Turk and I, we are sitting in the park on a bench and are gazing at the pond:
I am sitting in the park on a bench next to a Turk with a thickly bandaged
finger: I am sitting on a bench in the park next to a Turk with a thickly
bandaged finger: next to me on the bench in the park there suddenly sits a Turk
with a thickly bandaged finger which he is extending away from his other
fingers: in the park on a bench sits a Turk with nine unimpaired fingers which
he presses to the palms of his hands: on a bench in the park sits a Turk with a
thickly bandaged finger and gazes out at the pond.</span>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="text-decoration: none;">Of course I did not read the poem
this way when I translated it in the early 70s. I found it intriguing,
beautifully formed, it is also a finger exercise if you were a pianist, you are
showing your mastery, and wanted merely
to be adequate as I could do that. It is a virtuoso performance of trying to
keep the world of perceptions, of perceived phenomena and the world of words in
synchronous state, it is just that matters keep popping up from below! As in </span>Ride
Across Lake Bottom Lake<span style="text-decoration: none;"> There are these disturbances, wounded fingers, thoughts of death, if
only it were just tufts of grass!<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: lime; text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace; font-size: large;"><b>Michael Roloff<o:p></o:p></b></span></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: cyan;">VOR EIN PAAR WOCHEN ERREICHTE MICH WIEDER EIN SCHWALL VON "kraehendreck" AUS EINEM LOCH DES UNGESUNDEN FRANZ KRAHBERGER & TAEGLICH </span></b><br />
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">dank, du gespaltenes stinkttier rollaffe<u></u><u></u></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">dann wird er retourniert<u></u><u></u></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">du darfst dich in den chor der angsthasen und witternden erdmaennchen einreihen<u></u><u></u></span></span></div>
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<b>WAHRSCHEINLICH? TOTGANZSICHER IST KRAHBERGER DAS VERPOENTESTE GESCHOEPF IN WIEN!</b></div>
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2015-08-08 1:20 GMT-07:00 Franz Krahberger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krahberger@ejournal.at" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">krahberger@ejournal.at</a>></span>:<br />
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">in memo pat garrett statemarshall</span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">besten dank fuer dein up-date<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">da weiss deine sippe wenigstens, woran sie mit dir ist<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">ueber den wert deiner bekanntschaften darf gezweifelt werden<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">wer auf dich hereinfaellt, an dem darf gezweifel werden , alvensleberl<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">vergiss nicht deine hetzkampagne wider mich und dein aufforderung<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">an deinen ludolf alvensleben junior mir mit seinem BMW kabriolet an<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">das ist ab jetzt aktenkundig, du stinktier<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b>wie ist es eigentlich moeglich kleinlich sowie dumm zur selben zeit zu sein? glaubst du dass ich mich kuemmer darueber ob ich micht vetipp wenn einer canaille wie dir was geschickt wirst?</b></div>
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<b>du has teilnehmer am 20 juli despektiert der ludolf jr. ist auf dem weg nach wien den alten ziegenficker zu verpruegeln, wie alle jungen alvensleben ist er bmw cabriolet sport automobiliert! augen auf dann auf dem weg!, schneller humpeln auf sklerotischen syphilitischen kraehen beinenkruecken!</b></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ich halt dich am langen faden am schmaeh und dreh dir eine lange<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">wie dumm erst muss da gescherr sein, die sie um sich versammelt haben<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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2015-08-04 1:51 GMT-07:00 Franz Krahberger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krahberger@ejournal.at" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">krahberger@ejournal.at</a>></span>:<br />
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<span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">aus dir kann man keinen sauberen waschbaeren mehr machen<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b><span lang="DE" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> mikerol [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikerol@gmail.com" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">mikerol@gmail.com</a>]<br /><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 04. August 2015 06:51<br /><b>An:</b> Franz Krahberger <<a href="mailto:franz.krahberger@ejournal.at" style="color: #1155cc;" target="_blank">franz.krahberger@ejournal.at</a>><br /><b>Betreff:</b> Fwd: [Werkblatt] Ärzte-Zeitung: Was macht einen schönen Penis aus?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b style="background-color: magenta;"><krahberger ejournal.at=""></krahberger> Franz Krahberger <krahberger ejournal.at=""></krahberger></b> <br />
<b><span style="background-color: cyan;">HIER ERSTMAL EINE SAMMLUNG DIESER ERGUESSE DIE ICH SCHON SEIT MEHR ALS ZEHN JAHRE PERIODISCH ERHALTE.</span> </b></div>
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<b><u><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 24.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Franz Krahberger’s<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 24.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"> Gehirn Furzerl</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 24.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Cambria Math","serif"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Cambria Math"; mso-highlight: yellow;"></span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Wie
ist es moeglich, dass der vollkommen verlogene, meutehaftige, sich als
spaetgeborener Anti-Nazi gerierender Uebernazi, psychotisch geisteskranke, an
Suff und scheinbar an Gehirn-verstuemmelung oder Syphilis Vergiftung leidende,
alles schlechtmachende, homophobe Franz</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Cambria Math","serif"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Cambria Math"; mso-highlight: yellow;"></span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"> Krahberger
– jetzt – Mitte April 2013 - lässt sich dieser fiese primitive Kerl, aus dem verruchten Neanderischen Krahberger
Tal stammend, sich auch noch mit Handke und dessen Verlegern ein! <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">"<i style="background-color: yellow;">du volltrottel, fick den
handke peter</i></span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><i style="background-color: yellow;"><o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">der hat immer schon
ausgesehen wie ein verpatztes maedchen</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></i></div>
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">und weil er eine verkappte
schwule nummer ist,</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></i></div>
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">hat er sich gegenueber
seinen frauen so grausam aufgefuehrt</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"> <span style="color: blue;">die colbin bekommt heute nioch schuettelfrost, allein wenn
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">den namen handke hoert</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"> <span style="color: blue;">gottseidank ist ihr die eiterbeule
rolaffalvenslahm erspart geblieben</span></span></b></i><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><i style="background-color: yellow;">)</i><br />
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><span style="background-color: lime;"><span style="font-size: large;">der nicht nur die von Vogeltanz und
Krusche eingeleiteten Gerichts-verfahren verloren, auch den Verleumdungs
Prozess von Timo von Choltnitz in München letztes Jahr</span></span><br />
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Hier der Link zu Krahbergers vollkommenen verlogenen und bankrotten Versuch -
der sich nicht einmal eine Fahrkarte nach Muenchen leisten kann um zu zu
Verteiding aufzutreten - das Urteils das
gegen ihn gefaellt wurde zu verdrehen!<span style="color: blue;"><br />
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ja warum warum warum wird dessen Schweinezeug immer noch angeblich vom
Marbacher Archiv und Oestreichischen und anderen Archiven gesammelt?<br />
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und unterstuetzt vom Oestreichen Staat, anstatt samt seinem Erzeuger wieder in
einem Krankenhaus zu landen? <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Momentan gibt
es Strafanzeige von der Familie von Alvensleben, Verleumdung – in dieser
riesiegen Familie gab es einen besonders graesslichen Kriegsverbrecher waehend
der Nazi Zeit; darauf hin uebt Krahberger auf gute Naziart Sippenhaft, ein
teurer Spass wird’s ihm geworden sein!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Sogar
verhunzt er auch meine eher heroische Mutter vide das Buch von Charlotte Pommer
im Lukas Verlag<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"><a href="http://www.lukasverlag.com/neuerscheinungen/titel/317-gestapo-im-op.html">http://www.lukasverlag.com/neuerscheinungen/titel/317-gestapo-im-op.html</a></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Alles was aus
der Tastatur von Krahberger stammt gehoert ja nicht mal in ehrwuerdige
Misthaufen oder Jauchegrube, es hat nicht mal Schrott Wert! z.b.<span style="color: blue;"><br />
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><b><span style="background: yellow; color: blue; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">“rollaff
voegelt keine maedchen, nur buben und echten ziegen</span></b><b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;"> <span style="color: blue;">er ist so ein stinktier, so wie es billy the
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<b><span style="background: yellow; color: #1f497d; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 16.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow; mso-themecolor: text2;"><i style="background-color: yellow;">ihr vermoosten greenhorns<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>hau doch endlich ab, du grenzdementer
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>der notorsich ursache und wirkung
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><span class="671232313-15072013"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">die ursache bist du selbst</span></span><span class="671232313-15072013"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"> und
letztendlich die geleimte rute,</span></span></i></div>
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>die sich selbst faengt</i></span></span></div>
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>roloff du bist shizophren</i></span></span></div>
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>jekyl weiss nie, welche dummheiten hyde
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>du bist ein erbaermliches heruntergekommenes
aristo-kretin</i></span></span></div>
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>wahrscheinlich wirst du noch geil, wenn man dich
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<span class="671232313-15072013" style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><i>den letzten arsch schimpft</i></span></span></div>
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<i style="background-color: yellow;"><span class="671232313-15072013"></span><span class="671232313-15072013"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">du hast gewiss einen dauerdachschaden der
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<span class="671232313-15072013"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial;"><strong><u>pSycherl alvine michaela</u></strong></span></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: yellow; font-family: "Courier New"; font-size: 20.0pt; mso-highlight: yellow;">Eine grosse
wachsende Sammlung dieser Art, Ausbrüche, Krahberger’s Gehirn Furzerl - wie
wir's nennen – ein sich verfetzendes - eine Auswahl von zehn Jahre lange
verrueckter Beschimpfungen, Verpoebelungen, ein Dossier das sich über
Jahrzehnte erstreckt – sowie eine Analyse des Falls befindet sich hier </span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><span style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;">From: "Armin Leuchtenburg" </span><br style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;" /><span style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;">To: redact@ejournal.at</span><br style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;" /><span style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;">Subject: handke/verleumdung</span><br style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;" /><span style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;">Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:00:13 +0200</span><br style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;" /><br style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;" /><span style="color: #454545; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; text-align: start;"> </span></span><br />
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<strong id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6236"><span id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6235" style="background-color: yellow; font-size: small;">ich schrieb von VERLEUMDUNG! ich hoffe nur, dass Suhrkamp, etc + Handke einen so miserablen Aufklärer wie sie vors Gericht ziehen. Ein mistvieh wie sie sollte doch mal endlich einen auf den kopf kriegen. Handke hat nie etwas nicht eingestanden, per Srebrenice. Dass er zugibt er wuerde es gern verneinen ist eine Ehrlichkeit deren sie wohl nicht mal als kind fähig gewesen wären. Kommen se mal nach bremen, ich würd sie schon gern zu 'ner fahrt auf der leuchtenburger chaussee einladen, so in richtung teufelsmohr. Wünsche:</span></strong></div>
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<strong id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6295"><span id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6294" style="background-color: yellow; font-size: small;">Lassen, sie mich mit ihrem unfug in ruh. ihr a.l.</span></strong></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">Franz Krahberger <franz .karhberger="" ejournal.at=""> schrieb am 13.10.04 20:52:24:</franz></b></div>
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<tr id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6247"><td id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6246" style="border-spacing: 2px;"><b style="background-color: yellow;">herr leuchtenburg,</b><br />
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">allein, dass sie meinen namen in kraehberger umschreiben, zeigt von der kleinlichen<br />art ihres denkens.<br />schade, wenn einer kein licht ist und trotzdem leuchtenburg heisst<br />da haett sich schon der lichtenberg einen gezwinkert.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;"><i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6272">schaut ein lichtlein in die welt hinein, wird keine leuchte daraus hervorgehen.</i><i></i></b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">seien sie froh, dass ich ihnen die hardcore fassung von lichtenberg himself<br />erspart habe !</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">und so ist das auch mit den schreibmanikern handke und jelinek, die ihre<br />einfallslosigkeit hinter ungeheurem satzwerk verstecken.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">das ist mir schon lange zu langweilig und masochist bin ich auch nicht.<br />ich tu mir weder die eine noch die andere tortur an.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">ich stelle fest, dass sowohl handke wie auch die jelinek eine fast totalitaer<br />zu nennende lesergemeinde haben. bei der jelinek ist mir das klar, warums<br />beim handke auch so ist, weiis ich nicht genau zu sagen. wegen dem<br />hatte ich schon oefter zoff.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">wahrscheinlich weil er botschaften aus mimosenburg fuer mimen und mimosem<br />schreibt. verzeihen sie, aus dem elfenbeineren turm an seine still und<br />widerspruchslos lauschende wie lesende lesergemeinde</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">ihre denunziantenmentalitaet zeigt sich darin, dass sie die mail an<br />mich gleich auch an die oberlehrer vom suhrkamp verlag weitergeleitet<br />haben.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">tschuess baba und verrenken sie ihr hirn nicht fuer handke peter</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">es zahlt sich nicht aus<br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">with best regards franz krahberger<br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">electronic journal literatur primaer<br /><a href="https://freemailng2105.web.de/jump.htm?goto=http://www.ejournal.at/" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0033cc;">http://www.ejournal.at</span></a></b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">wellknown in the global webworld<br /> </b></div>
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<a href="https://freemailng2105.web.de/jump.htm?goto=http://www.ejournal.at/Info/nflash.html" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0033cc;"><b style="background-color: yellow;">http://www.ejournal.at/Info/nflash.html</b></span></a></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">und</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;"> a ja, noch etwas</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">beste gruesse an den spaetleuchter enzensberger</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">siehe</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">Armin Leuchtenburg schrieb:</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">Herr Kraehberger:</b><br />
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">In Ihrem Schreibsel zu Jelinek's Nobel Preis befindet sich auch folgende Verleumdung von Peter Handke:</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;"><i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6291">"Das trivial popzeitmässige an Jelineks Werk ist die konzeptbedingte Nähe zur österreichischen Realität und Gegenwart.</i><br /><i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6283">Dass sie jedoch dem Srbrenice Leugner und pro Miloseviv Propagandisten Peter Handke den Preis mehr wünscht als sich selbst, ist einmal mehr eine der verqueren Verschrobenheiten des sogenannten österreichischen Literaturbetriebes mit internatonalen Verästelungen.</i></b></div>
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<i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6289"><b style="background-color: yellow;">Lieber den Preis an die Jelinek als an den Handke !"</b></i></div>
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<b style="background-color: yellow;">Angeblich stehen Sie in der Tradition der Aufklaerung. Haetten Sie Handke's Texte <i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6288">Sommerlicher Nachtrag & Rund um das Tribunal </i>gelesen, anstatt sich auf noch andere Verleumdungen zu verlassen, wuerde Ihnen solche Bloedheiten und Verleumdungen nicht so schnell ins E-Journal geraten.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">You know, Franz, yours is the kind of letter that might just make me change my mind. I think I wrote you that I am an election worker this week, and it looks like next as well. So cool it! The only reason I made the offer is because there was a time when your did respectable work. Hans Kohut observered that human beings were redeemable as long as they had not lost their sense of humor. More on that subject anon.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;"><a href="http://us.f129.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter/_cid_image001.jpg?viewimg=1&box=ALERTS&MsgId=2217_6152145_7948_1581_14615_0_6961_20397_751732862&bodyPart=2&filename=_cid_image001.jpg&tnef=&YY=26526&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b" id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6481" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank"><img border="1" src="http://us.f129.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter/_cid_image001.jpg?box=ALERTS&MsgId=2217_6152145_7948_1581_14615_0_6961_20397_751732862&bodyPart=2&filename=_cid_image001.jpg&tnef=&YY=26526&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b" id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6480" style="border: 0px;" vspace="5" width="100" /></a><br /><br /><span id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6483"><i id="yui_3_7_2_1_1368376139181_6482">Franz Krahberger <redact ejournal.at=""></redact></i></span> wrote:</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">roloff</b><br />
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<b style="background-color: lime;">sie haben ihr versprechen nicht eingehalten !</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">ich glaube ihnen auch nicht, dass sie das passwort vergessen haben.<br />ich habe ihre schmierfinken site, die sie da ueber mich angelegt<br />haben, anders in erinnerung. sie manipulieren die texte und<br />mails offensichtlich willkuerlich.<br />prinzip der freien montage, so ist es doch, mike roloff</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">sie geben in ihren mails an, sie waeren mitglied des<br />seattle psychanalytic institute.<br />in ansehung ihrer aktion kommt man jedoch zur auffassung,<br />dass sie eher ein pathologischer fall sind, der dort in behandlung<br />steht.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">noch etwas faellt auf. sie fuehren sich auf wie eine hysterische<br />nicht erhoerte und sitzen gelassene tunte.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">abgesehen davon, dass mir die neigung dazu fehlt. wer will<br />mit einem solchen typen, wie sie es sind, schon zu tun haben.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">bei ansehung der fotos, die von ihnen im web zu finden sind,<br />fiel mir ein satz ein, mit dem kennedy tricki dick aus dem<br />rennen geworfen hat:<br /><i>wuerden sie von diesem mann einen zweitwagen kaufen ?</i></b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">klarerweise nein !!!</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">auch ihre drohungen mit einem anwalt sehe ich gelassen.<br />sie haben jetzt im mailwechsel leuchtenburg und<br />mir gegenueber genuegend mitgeteilt bzw. zugegeben<br />, das offen gegen sie spricht.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">entfernen sie ihre schmierfinkensite. andernfalls erscheint<br />eine roloff dokumentation, die um einiges praeziser sein<br />wird, als die rote seite alte schmiede.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">rote karte fuer sie, roloff</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">es gibt noch andere mittel und wege, um sie zur<br />raison zu bringen, ohne die gerichte bemuehen zu muessen.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">was nun die dienste anlangt. sie haben mir gegenueber<br />mehrmals mit kontakten zur c i a und anderen<br />diensten geprahlt.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">doch welcher dienst der welt leistet es sich, so einen<br />wie sie auf dauer auf der lohnliste zu halten.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">es scheint so, als ob sie out of business sind, wild<br />herum schlagen und strudeln und ihren frust an mir<br />auslassen.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">auch handke erweisen sie ein baerendienst. das alles<br />ist sehr schaebig, roloff.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">verwenden sie noch den letzten funken ihres offensichtlich<br />gestoerten verstandes, lassen sie sich das freeserver<br />password einfallen und entfernen sie die dreckssite.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">dann werde ich von weiteren massnahmen wider<br />sie abstand nehmen.<br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">f.k.<br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">dont worry and hurry up</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">ps: bei ansehung ihrer methoden gewinnt man den eindruck,<br />dass sie in heydrichs truppe geschult worden sind.</b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">das geht sich zwar mit ihrem alter nicht ganz aus. aber immerhin<br />gibt es mittelbare kontakte ihrer mama in der canarientruppe,<br />von der sie mir erzaehlt haben, alvensleben<br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;">bei grosseren problemen mit ihrer psyche und herkunft<br />wenden sie sich bitte an das papageien sanatorum praha,<br />direkt an dr. rolf affe<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> </b></div>
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<b style="background-color: lime;"> Do you really think I would change the names in the Schwab play? Not to unduly worry. Will remove the site as soon as I find the password! Hadn't looked at it in years until this fellow from Bremen called my attention to it & you then sent him the link to the Alte Schmiede. I don't trust this Leuchtenburg in the least, no matter that we agree on the fact that you distort Handke. Handke is only really wrong when he thinks that all that Miloscevics is is an autocract, as usual, solipsistic as our autist can so often be, he is only talking about himself; on the other hand, sometimes his "I" is , as he says and wishes, far more than just himself. so he is worth reading and studying in the same manner in which you once did other authors.... to good effect all around unless one becomes too schoolmasterly for one's own good. That's a nice Tempest quote indeed, I would not have had it that handy, if at all. The <span style="color: red;">MAO</span><span style="color: black;">does not derive from him, but a contemporary people's republic sculptor, and i regard it as the most impossibly ludicrously idealistic slogan still around.but how are you to fathom those possibly sophisticated reasons?</span></b><br />
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<b style="background-color: lime;"> <span style="color: #bf5f00;">MICHAEL ROLOFF</span><br />Visiting Scholar, Germanics<br />University of Washington<br />Member Seattle Pschoanalytic Institute<br /><span style="color: #0060bf;"><a href="http://www.roloff.freehosting.net/index.html" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank">http://www.roloff.freehosting.net/index.html</a></span><br /><span style="color: blue;"><a href="http://www.handke.scriptmania.com/" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank">http://www.handke.scriptmania.com</a></span><span style="color: black;"><a href="http://us.f129.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=2069537346@mobile.att.net" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank">2069537346@mobile.att.net</a> e.g: <i>MAY THE FIREPLUG OF FILIALITY REINSURE YOUR BUNGHOLE!</i></span><span style="color: #ff007f;">"May the Red Sun of Mao Shine in your Hearts"</span></b><br />
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<b style="background-color: lime;"><span style="color: #bf5f00;">MICHAEL ROLOFF </span>Visiting Scholar, Germanics<br />University of Washington<br />Member Seattle Pschoanalytic Institute<br /><span style="color: #0060bf;"><a href="http://www.roloff.freehosting.net/index.html" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank">http://www.roloff.freehosting.net/index.html</a></span><br /><span style="color: blue;"><a href="http://www.handke.scriptmania.com/" rel="nofollow" style="color: #2862c5; outline: 0px;" target="_blank">http://www.handke.scriptmania.com</a></span></b></div>
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Verteidigung der Serben auf der Krahberg Site. Ich war dem Handke nicht
besonders gut gesinnt zu der Zeit und haette mich leicht der Meute beifuegen
koennen, wollte aber zu einem reinen Verstaendnis der Angelegenheit kommen. Das
REINE Verstaendnis! Mein Beitrag wurde dann fuer Krahberger’s Handke Hetze
misbraucht - der Kerl gibt vor English lesen zu koennen! Stimmt kaum! Ausserdem
hat er auch nicht die Handke Texte gelesen – faul, dumm, boese, versoffen -
bezeichnet er Handke noch immer der Verneinung des Uebels in Srebrenice – was
der Krahberger wohl alles sich selber nicht eingesteht! Dieser Erznazi! Ein
spaetgeborener angeblicher Anti-Nazi, Sippenhaftler wie ein ein echter Nazi
sich nur einen wuenschen kann! Wenn das die Oestrichische Aufklaerung ist…<br />
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Weiteres und aehnliches ueber Krahberger kann man bei den im cc Feld genannten
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Martin Krusche, Ullrich von der Schulenburg, Joerg
Vogeltanz, Timo von
Choltitz, und sicherlich vielen anderen die die
selbe Erfahrung mit diesem auch noch erzdummen Primitiven gemacht haben.
Dumm, dem Suff verfallen, boese - was gibt's schlimmeres? Humorlos faellt er
auch noch auf alles rein was ihm das Elekron vor die Rindsaugen fuehrt.<br />
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</span></span></u></b></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">und Überlegungen wie es zu der Desintegration der Föderation kam, und Handke's Verwicklung darin, bin ich </span></u><i><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">natürlich</span></u></i><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;"> auf das Thema "Verneinung" gestossen. In Frankreich scheint die Verneinung des Massenmords der Armenier an Hand der Türken strafbar zu sein; im<br />
Land der Deutschsprachigen die Ausrottung der Juden. </span></u></big></big></b></span></span></span></span></span><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; font-size: medium;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">Und wer erinnert sich überhaupt noch daran was der Zar mit </span></u></big></big></b></span><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; font-size: medium;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">den Chassierern angefangen hat am Ende des 19ten Jahrhunderts. </span></u></big></big></b></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; font-size: medium;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;"><br />
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Nur den Beschuss von Dubrovnik/ Ragusa hat er in dieser Angelegenheit gegenueber einigen Kroatischen Fernsehleuten einmal für unmöglich gehalten - er schien nicht annehmen zu können, dass man etwas<br />
so schönes zerstören wollte; dazu gibt es aber eine handvoll<br />
YouTube Filme die ihn des Verneinens überführen - die sehen auch<br />
ganz harmlos aus, wie die Geschosse da an der Festung verpuffen. Diese ganze Chose bringt einen zu der Frage</span></u></big></big></b></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">warum es so leicht gelungen ist eine ganze Gruppe und einen Mann [Milosevic] zu verteufeln, als ob [?] wir wirklich immer noch in "dunkelsten Serbien" [Die Fahrt im Einbaum] leben. Dass Handke sich gegen eine solche Vereinfachung setzte - da haben es die Leute ihm eigentlich leicht gemacht mit seinem rechthaberischem Selbstexhibitionismus! Wie man so in die Geschichte verwickelt wird! </span></u></big></big></b></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">Also, das bringt mich dazu zu fragen, wie diese Gruppe, diese Frauen und Mannschaft von Therapeuten zu<br />
dem heiklen Thema "Kriminalisierung der Verneinung" stehen?<br />
Sollte man dem "sag mir alles was dir einfällt" noch hinzufügen<br />
und wenn du's nicht tust oder lügst kommst du ins Gefängnis, oder wir üben Shariah gesetzliches mit dir?</span></u></big></big></b></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><b><big><big><u><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: yellow;">Euer aller,<br />
Michael Roloff</span></u></big></big></b></span></span></span></span></span><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: small;"><u><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><b><big><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: #cccccc; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%;"></span></span><span lang="FR" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: #cccccc; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">6] </span></span><span lang="FR" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: #cccccc; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%;"><a href="http://handke-yugo.blogspot.com/2010/05/austrian-writer-peter-handke-european.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">http://handke-yugo.blogspot.com/2010/05/austrian-writer-peter-handke-european.html</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><b><big><span lang="FR" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: #ffcc00; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">10] </span></span><span lang="FR" style="background-attachment: scroll; background-color: #ffcc00; background-image: none; background-position: 0% 0%;"><a href="http://handke-yugo.blogspot.com/2010/05/roloff-breviary-of-handke-position.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">http://handke-yugo.blogspot.com/2010/05/roloff-breviary-of-handke-position.html</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><b><u><b><span style="font-family: 'courier new', monospace;"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">bpth have the psychoanalytic monograph</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><b><u><b><span style="background-color: #ffcc00;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">[dem handke auf die schliche/besuch auf dem Moenchsberg, a book of mine about Handke]</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><b><u><b style="background-color: #ff6666;"><a href="http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/topics/Peter+Handke/" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">http://begleitschreiben.</span></span></a><a href="http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/topics/Peter+Handke/" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">twoday.net/topics/Peter+</span></span></a><a href="http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/topics/Peter+Handke/" moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Handke/</span></span></a><span style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> </span></b></span></b></u></b></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: 800;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: arial;"><b><u><span style="font-family: 'courier new', monospace;"><span style="background-color: silver;"><b><span style="background-color: silver;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">This LYNX will LEAP you to my HANDKE project sites and BLOGS:</span></span></b></span></span></u></b></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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/></div></div></div></span><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;font-size:85%;" > </span></b></div><div><div><div><div><div> <div> <div> <div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span></b> <div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><a style="background-color: rgb(102, 51, 255);" href="http://www.handkelectures.freeservers.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://www.handkelectures.</span><span style="color:#000000;">free<wbr>servers.com</span></a><br />[the drama lecture]<br /></span></b></div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="http://www.kultur.at/see/roloff.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;"> </span></a></span></b></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div></div> </div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div> <div><div style="text-align: center;"> </div><div><div style="text-align: center;"> <pre><span style="font-size:130%;"><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><a href="http://www.van.at/see/mike/index.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://www.van.at/see/mike/</span><span style="color:#000000;">ind<wbr>ex.htm</span></a></b></span><br /><br /><br /></pre></div> </div> </div> <div><div> <div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 0);">[dem handke auf die schliche/besuch auf dem moenchsberg, a book of mine about Handke]</span><br /></span></b></div> <b style="background-color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/topics/Peter+Handke/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://begleitschreiben.</span><span style="color:#000000;">twoday<wbr>.net/topics/Peter+</span><span style="color:#000000;">Handke/</span></a></span></b><br /> </div> </div> </div> <b><span style="font-size:85%;"> <div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a style="background-color: rgb(0, 204, 204);" href="http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://handke-discussion.</span><span style="color:#000000;">blogs<wbr>pot.com/</span></a><br /> </div> <div style="text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 0);">[the American Scholar caused controversy about Handke, reviews, detailed of Coury/ Pilipp's THE WORKS OF PETER HANDKE, the psycho-biological monograph/ a note on Velica Hoca/ ]</span><br /></div></div> </span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 204, 204);">with three photo albums, to wit:</span><br /><br /><span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerol" target="_blank">http://picasaweb.google.com/</a></span><span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerol" target="_blank">mi<wbr>kerol</a></span></span></b></div> <div style="text-align: center;"><b><br /></b></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><a style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerol/HANDKE3ONLINE#" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://picasaweb.google.com/</span><span style="color:#000000;">mi<wbr>kerol/HANDKE3ONLINE#</span></a><br /></span></b> </div><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 204, 204);"><br /></span></span> <div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mikerol/HANDKE2ONLINE#" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 204, 204);">http://picasaweb.google.com/</span></span><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 204, 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center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"> </span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><pre><div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="http://www.artscritic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">http://www.artscritic.</span></span><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">blogspot<wbr>.com</span></span></a></span></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /><br /></span><br />[some handke material, too, the Milosevic controversy summarized]</span></b></div></div></pre></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;">MICHAEL ROLOFF </span></b><br /></div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;">Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute and Society</span></b><br /></div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"> </span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;">this LYNX will LEAP you to all my HANDKE project sites and BLOGS:</span></b><br /></div> <b><span style="font-size:85%;"> </span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"><span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="http://www.roloff.freehosting.net/index.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#000000;">http://www.roloff.freehosting.</span><span style="color:#000000;"><wbr>net/index.html</span></a></span></b><br /> </div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span></b></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size:85%;">"MAY THE FOGGY DEW BEDIAMONDIZE YOUR HOOSPRINGS!" </span>+ MAY THE FIREPLUG OF FILIALITY REINSURE YOUR BUNGHOLE!"" </b><b style="background-color: rgb(255, 0, 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Joyce}</span></b><br /> </div><div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"><br /></span></span></b><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 153, 0);">"Sryde Lyde Myde Vorworde Vorhorde Vorborde" [von Alvensleben]</span></span></b><br /> <b><span style="font-size:85%;"> </span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/1E3" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="1E3" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/1E3" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="1E3" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/1E3" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="1E3" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/1E3" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="1E3" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/1E3" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="1E3" /><br /> </b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0C" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0C" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0C" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0C" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0C" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0C" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0C" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0C" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0C" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0C" /><br /> </b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/813" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="813" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/813" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="813" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/813" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="813" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/813" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="813" /><br /> </b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/517" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="517" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/517" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="517" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/517" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="517" /><br /> </b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/814" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="814" /><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/814" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="814" /><br /> </b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><img src="http://mail.google.com/mail/e/B0E" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle;" goomoji="B0E" /><br /></b></div> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div></div><b><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span></b><a href="http://tartanwallpaper.blogspot.com/2009/12/books-of-year-2009-second-rank.html">of a Year 2009 - The Second Rank</a>SUMMA POLITICOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1028192471601452787.post-78736143935098402032009-12-10T17:18:00.000-08:002009-12-10T17:36:49.522-08:00Dear Louise Lambrich<div style="background-color: yellow;"><b>Thank you for your comment which I will make part of this post and to which I reply below:<br />
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</div><div style="background-color: cyan;"><b>"Louise L. Lambrichs has left a new comment on your post "<a href="http://analytic-comments.blogspot.com/2009/12/communication-about-handke-case.html" target="_blank">A COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE HANDKE CASE</a>": <br />
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Deeply interested by your paper. But do you read French ? If you do, you may read "Le cas Handke", I published in 2003, three years before the "Affaire" in France and Germany (<a href="http://www.inventaire-invention.com/" target="_blank">www.inventaire-invention.com</a>)</b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><wbr></wbr><b>. Interesting is how Handke's literature allows to understand what happened in Former Yugoslavia. Of course, the context should be also well understood... Unfortunately, if French scholars read English and American studies, I'm not shure that American do read the French... ! Personally, being Jew, French, German, Austrian and Belgian, I don't think that "ethnicity" is relevant to think the case. The main question is the question of unconscious denial, in this specific context. Handke is blind... as many others. I remain you that a new genocide happened in Eastern Europe, and that Handke supported openly Milosevic. Do you have an idea of the reasons ? Sincerely. </b><br />
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</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">I discuss Handke's denial in the posting on the Milosevics controversy at:</span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/</span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">and as a matter of fact have written a series of long papers on that subject.</span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">Denial is a common and even essential human psychological capacity, necessity.</span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">In Handke's case it became emphatically necessary during his childood trauma, one of the sources of the creation for his "other-worldly" art. On the other, I have never known someone who sees so much, is such a great phenomenologist. If you read his JUSTICE FOR SERBIA carefully you notice that he refuses to report anything he has not seen, and when, e.g. he sees corpses floating down one of those rivers, he angrily skips a stone across it, instead of falling into the standard language of condemnation; he reports his wife Sophie Semin saying to him, about Dubrovnik, "and so you are going to deny that too?" - which means that he himself is aware of his tendency to deny. And not so long ago he denied the shelling of Dubrovnik once again, to some visiting Croatian magazine and t.v. reporters in Chaville. Very funny, and then tried to supress that he had said so once again! Even more touching!<br />
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</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">Denial occurs for two main reasons, one because acknowledgment creates unbearable pain, the other for reasons of self image, which can be just as painful, and also as in the foolish case of Ahminejab of Persia because he wants to eliminate the raison d'etre of Israel. Denial has been criminalized meanwhile, it derives from my profession, my analytic caste, and it is a monstrosity to criminalize denial, in France I gather denial of the Turkish genocide of Armenians has meanwhile been criminalized... once you go down that road you end up at the very heart of hypocrisy and have people as in the middle ages going around with death heads in their hands, saying that they will not deny death. I well know the origin of the prohibition of denial as an aftermath of the Shoah, but it is a mistake. Handke in his somewhat problematic play EINBAUM / VOYAGE BY DUGOUT has the case of the Serbian bystander of an atrocity who was arrested in German for not intervening back in Serbia and who was then condemned to five years in a German prison for that inaction - he represent this case, which really happened, through a character called "the Forest madman", because the fellow when the Germans finally saw the error of their ways and sent him back to Serbia, he was despised: what had he done - he had watched, witnessed an atrocity, about which he could do nothing, he had not denied it even, but he was condemned for having seen. If you see where this insanity of prohibition of denial then leads. I am also appalled at French denial of their 90% collaboration and passivity under German occupation, and then seizing DeGaulle's statement about "heroic la France" as a cover, just the way the Austrians seized on the opportunity to regard themselves as victims of Hitler, whereas they were only victims of their hopes and wishes and hatred of Jews, and the way the French then treated the women who had slept with German soldiers, and that the Comedie Francaise canceled the production of a great play, Handke's THE ART OF ASKING. Handke has his monstrous sides in some ways, but I would say that denial in the instance of Yugoslavia is the least of it, and the French news media exclusively making Serbians and Milosevic's responsible is also an act of total idiocy. You might say, that all the tribes became murderous, for reasons that they scarcely know, I would say because of two national security directives under Reagan that declared economic warfare, and then when the center of socialism started to fail, you get the disintegration into ethnic nationalist beastialities. </span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">I do read French do not know your book, will gladly read yet another on the subject,</span></b><br />
</div><div class="ii gt" id=":p6" style="background-color: cyan;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">perhaps we can correspond via e-mail? mikerol [at] lycos. com </span> <br />
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